Thread: How is pvp on Snowbourn?

Originally Posted by Weewooweewoo

You don't impress us with that size, it's a little bit small. Is it an accurate depiction of yours? ;(

About the terrain exploiting thing... I agree that jumping on the rock right above the wolf's den near EC is kinda lame and falls into terrain exploiting. However, the rocks at TR HS, TR fields or norbogs (and many more) are absolutely legit if people are complaining about those. If I can jump on it with a slow, so can everyone else. Incompetence (or in popular terms: being nab) is not a factor that should be taken into consideration. If you can't jump on it, try harder next time. But don't blame those who can jump on it for terrain exploiting. It's your own fault that you're not being able to complete such an easy task.

Who are these people complaining about terrain exploiting? I've been using the rock at the norbogs for years - it's foiled many a warg gank group It got to the point where the said warg packs would camp the rock because they knew they'd get owned if I got on it

Oh, and while we're on the subject of complaining about tactics, I'd just like to say to those defilers who keep using those damn flies on me - stop it! I'm not going to flame as it's a perfectly legitimate tactic, but it is so annoying! Be warned that my policy against defilers that use those on me is that they will be perma snared / debuffed with my ranged AoE skill. You leave me alone and I'll leave you alone!

Daec first of all u dont get to tell anything in EM coz we can barely see you in good action hipsing,sprinting always and criticising nokors healing ,mcyers raid or other things and telling get a life to gy farmer wargs arent u one of them ha also i know there are no limitations in Ettenmoors but you and your warg buddies waiting for an easy target jumping on him and stealthing again not making Em any better.

Originally Posted by Dacil

Fair enough, since admitting Evernighters are not involved lets keep that topic out of conversation, I'm not in the mood of becoming Kenzeis advocate atm.

You have asked me to answer on your questions, I did, now drink it or leave it. I'm not in the mood either to keep on going with the topic that should have ended 2 pages before, yet I broke your heart by commenting the factual state looks like.

Originally Posted by Dacil

Ty, for actually anwering me for once. As for the actual basis of terrain-exploiting I'll go with what Weewoo said, no need to repeat ourselves. To summarise it, just because snowbourn people decide not to use their spacebar button, that won't force me to do the same, sorry.

Just because evernight people decide to use their spacebar button, you have to take the complaints on the chin. If you would have played longer on Snowy you would have knew that pressing constantly the spacebar button can make you be banned for 3 days, belive or not.

Originally Posted by Dacil

If examined carefully any form of flaming and blaming is completely meaningless in a open pvp game.

Yes, in an open PvP game that have certain goals to achieve, apparently not in Lotro sandbox PvMP, where people tend to find the reasons to blame and flame after getting bored of playing on the same map for years. Since we have such an exclusive PvMP content that adds vast additions as the tree and a bird in a major PvMP update, people have to "update" their own play in a different way, hence we have and had so many complaints about the dirty play over the years.

PvMP concept of the person number 1 who don't accept all the changes which the community applies in time (let's pick up 1v1, hate over the zergers, hate over the gankers etc.) collides with the concept of the person number 2, who agree with most of the additions and "fame & shame rosters" applied by the community, hence for the second person it's easier to find the reasons to blame for the first person.

You reap what you sow and

Originally Posted by Muzzard

As for pvp over here it is what you make it.

Originally Posted by IyvanEU

I've been using the rock at the norbogs for years - it's foiled many a warg gank group

You had poisoned pies too, it's too unfair!

Originally Posted by ZirDust

Not going to meddle in this discussion, as I don't really get any of the "sides" problem, and I don't really care much about it either. Game is not static, and people come and go, just adapt or move on. I go to ettens to play and sometimes group, have fun, and I don't care if I die over and over again from whatever silly reason. I don't know anything much about pvp in lotro at all even though I played the game almost since start. If you call me a noob, for whatever reason, I don't give a flying f**k, I'm just in it for the fun, it's another side of the game for me.

So Ovric, the r7 fail warden: Talking about respect and attitude and ego, you should just stay quiet after coming on your creep after being killed twice on your warden in grothum and trying to solo tyrant. I understand your frustration, but coming on your creep admitting failure and wanting to put my freeps on ignore is over the top pathetic. Just take a break, breathe deep and call it a day after failures like this. But I will thank you anyway, you made my day!

I respect other players very much, freeps and creeps, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna leave them alone even if we are "friends" or they try to accomplish something difficult or tedious, like soloing a tyrant.

You sir, think you are better than others, or at least you wish you were. No offense to anyone on snowy except for you, just because you deserve it!!

Yeah man, so much fail.




As you can see the spider couldn't get me down. Then you came along, and first ran away after you almost died even though I had a spider and tyrant on me, then came back when my cooldowns were popped. And you talk about failure and respect. :') I didn't want to bring this up but I guess now you can see for yourself how awesome a player you are. But yeah, I don't want to play with people like that, especially not after trying to talk about me on the forums (sad), so I want to know who you are on freepside.

Originally Posted by Leganthir

Daec first of all u dont get to tell anything in EM coz we can barely see you in good action

Funny you say that since we've been fighting the past hour at river OP , tol, wb.

Originally Posted by Leganthir

hipsing,sprinting

GJ you named 2 of my skills!

Originally Posted by Leganthir

always and criticising nokors healing ,mcyers raid or other things and telling get a life to gy farmer wargs

False, false and false.
I've never critisized nokors healing, he is free to play his healing class as it should.
I've never witnessed a Mcyer raid, let alone critisize it. I've only seen Mcyer like 2 times.
I've never dictated to anyone how he should play, if crowarg wishes to make warg packs to kill solos he is free to do so.

Originally Posted by Leganthir

arent u one of them ha

Yes, you are very observing, I am a warg.

Originally Posted by Leganthir

also i know there are no limitations in Ettenmoors but you and your warg buddies waiting for an easy target jumping on him and stealthing again not making Em any better.

Trololol. your 6man vs me and Plom is an easy kill?
I'm sorry I don't make Em a better place by not killing you.


On a scale from 1-10 I give this rant a ''I just got pwnt and must QQ''.


@ Ethel,
I read only that ''You have asked me to answer on your questions, I did, now drink it or leave it. I'm not in the mood either to keep on going with the topic that should have ended 2 pages before, yet I broke your heart by commenting the factual state looks like.'' and decided to stop there. Didn't read the rest, won't comment any further.

Originally Posted by Vindrayeth

Yeah man, so much fail.

As you can see the spider couldn't get me down. Then you came along, and first ran away after you almost died even though I had a spider and tyrant on me, then came back when my cooldowns were popped. And you talk about failure and respect. :') I didn't want to bring this up but I guess now you can see for yourself how awesome a player you are. But yeah, I don't want to play with people like that, especially not after trying to talk about me on the forums (sad), so I want to know who you are on freepside.

Weaverspider is he not R2? and your on a WARDEN?

I miss trolling aswell

To the OP of the thread, here is how PVP is on a low level spider :-)

Meeting Freep Raid 1:



They even got off there horses to welcome me :-D

Meeting Freep Raid 2:

On horses:



Off Horses :-D



As you can see, its EPIC :-D

Oh on a side note:

Leganthir and nokor your both very lame running into the GY at TR, poor show.

Originally Posted by Vindrayeth

Yeah man, so much fail.




As you can see the spider couldn't get me down. Then you came along, and first ran away after you almost died even though I had a spider and tyrant on me, then came back when my cooldowns were popped. And you talk about failure and respect. :') I didn't want to bring this up but I guess now you can see for yourself how awesome a player you are. But yeah, I don't want to play with people like that, especially not after trying to talk about me on the forums (sad), so I want to know who you are on freepside.

You did not get it: Your ultimate failiure was coming on your creep, trying to harass us in OOC, then calling names and wanting to know who my freeps are in PM. I wouldn't want to bring it to forums either, in fact I had no reason to, but I just couldn't resist when I saw your attitude in here and saw who your hunter is... Don't worry dude, your hunter is on my freep ignore list years ago!! In fact, I think he is one of few, I'm mostly very tolerant and have no reason to argue with anyone. But you sir, are something for yourself.

And I don't claim to have any skills, as I said I go to ettens for fun. I'm not the one to judge my skills. I know I have much to learn in the ettens.

Why the hell didn't you chuck your javelins after me to kill me when I was almost dead? Afaik my sprint was on cooldown, so I didn't run very fast. I might be wrong, I don't remember... And why did you keep the spider alive? More than I can understand. Did you expect to be left alone untill you were finished flipping the mine?

What are the screenshots supposed to show anyway, except for the obvious?

As for warwargs, I left because I don't like oversized wargraids and ganking 1v1 area.


EDITED to correct grammar.

trolol grishpaw is here

Originally Posted by ZirDust

You did not get it: Your ultimate failiure was coming on your creep, trying to harass us in OOC, then calling names and wanting to know who my freeps are in PM. I wouldn't want to bring it to forums either, in fact I had no reason to, but I just couldn't resist when I saw your attitude in here and saw who your hunter is... Don't worry dude, your hunter is on my freep ignore list years ago!! In fact, I think he is one of few, I'm mostly very tolerant and have no reason to argue with anyone. But you sir, are something for yourself.

And I don't claim to have any skills, as I said I go to ettens for fun. I'm not the one to judge my skills. I know I have much to learn in the ettens.

Why the hell didn't you chuck your javelins after me to kill me when I was almost dead? Afaik my sprint was on cooldown, so I didn't run very fast. I might be wrong, I don't remember... And why did you keep the spider alive? More than I can understand. Did you expect to be left alone untill you were finished flipping the mine?

What are the screenshots supposed to show anyway, except for the obvious?

As for warwargs, I left because I don't like oversized wargraids and ganking 1v1 area.


EDITED to correct grammar.

Whoa, some vast knowledge of the ettenmoors and wardens. So many questions! I can refer you to the warden subforum, many of them will be answered.

The snowbourn ettens is nowadays a cespool of ezmoders who somehow forget that they are playing against other persons and want to feel angry and cool about not caring. I don't forget, so I come to creepside, frustrated by another lamer, and ask who your freeps are, as I don't want to play with people like that. But hey! Apparently you know exactly who I am and have already done the job for me. Other than that I don't give 2 cents about your stupid forum attack on me after your sad gank when Ive been soloing a tyrant for 30 minutes. Because that's all it is. And I don't care what you think about wardens, roll one and ####.

And look on the bright side - I'm hardly around anymore anyhow. So have fun doing whatever you do!

Originally Posted by Vindrayeth

Whoa, some vast knowledge of the ettenmoors and wardens. So many questions! I can refer you to the warden subforum, many of them will be answered.

The snowbourn ettens is nowadays a cespool of ezmoders who somehow forget that they are playing against other persons and want to feel angry and cool about not caring. I don't forget, so I come to creepside, frustrated by another lamer, and ask who your freeps are, as I don't want to play with people like that. But hey! Apparently you know exactly who I am and have already done the job for me. Other than that I don't give 2 cents about your stupid forum attack on me after your sad gank when Ive been soloing a tyrant for 30 minutes. Because that's all it is. And I don't care what you think about wardens, roll one and ####.

And look on the bright side - I'm hardly around anymore anyhow. So have fun doing whatever you do!

4 questions in all. You did not answer any of them. Also i got a level 75 warden myself, so not much in warden forums for me except for details, I know pretty much their strengths and weaknesses. They are super with lots of mobs around to leech health from, or when they are buffed and got heals going. From stealth they are as squishy as a hunter if they don't run around buffing and healing via battle restoration. I've been around for more or less for almost 5 years on snowbourne PvE, I have generally a quite good overview of the classes, which is very handy fighting freeps in ettenmoors. I did not claim to have good knowledge about the ettenmoors community or ettenmoors in general.

I don't like someone trying to harass me, so what do you expect? You are the first person to tell me how lame I am, at least in ettenmoors. Probably someone told me to go to hell a few times before wiping or messing up stuff, but who haven't? I generally get along fine with people I meet, be it PvP or PvE.

And I did not start anything. You started when you logged your creep and began the harassment. Then is the question, what is most lame? Trying to solo a boss which is meant for a raid group expecting creeps to move along and not meddle, or is it killing the player soloing? 30 minutes wasted, get over it and go for revenge. Eventually bang your head against the wall for a while and afterwards get some painkillers.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but you really triggered me with your ooc/pm-attack the other night and then the forum-posts here. Also I don't know who you really are, I don't even know your gender or what country you are from... Why you are on my freep ignore list I have no idea.

And one last question (most important, the other ones are mostly rethorical... :P I dont expect you to answer, as you did not answer any of my questions in the previous post): How should I have acted when I saw you fighting the tyrant to live up to your standars of how to behave in the ettenmoors?

BTW! I respect players in general, freeps as creeps. There are alot of nice people on both sides. Taunting and trolling is part of the game.

Credit goes to Gattsu: http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...-to-Ettenmoors

Originally Posted by Dacil

Example no1: Liggo after hipsing , tnging and running from me said his dps skills where bugged. = Excuse

This isn't an excuse, since it happens really often on burglar. I can tell that of my experience. Skills are blocked, you can only type in OOC/userchats and kinship. No /say, no /tell and no skills. Only way to solve is to exit game and relog. This means he hipsed first and tng in the fight. When skills are bugging, you can only run (it happened once to me when I tried to fight 3 wargs).

Just my reaction on that.

Originally Posted by Tolgaring

This isn't an excuse

It is an excuse, you just don't know the details.

Originally Posted by Tolgaring

Skills are blocked, you can only type in OOC/userchats and kinship. No /say, no /tell and no skills. Only way to solve is to exit game and relog. This means he hipsed first and tng in the fight. When skills are bugging, you can only run (it happened once to me when I tried to fight 3 wargs).

I am really familiar with that bug too. However that was not what liggo supposedly had, since he was able to use most his skills but apparently some of his dps skills were unavailabe, so he decided to pop cds and run. Besides since he hipsed and ran, there was no wai his skills were actually bugged. My guess would be he didn't have crit chain opened .

Ty for your hasty assumptions

You didn't describe it thoroughly enough, if that happened it was an excuse.

Originally Posted by Tolgaring

You didn't describe it thoroughly enough, if that happened it was an excuse.

if one gets the skill bug you cant use any of your skills so he woulndt be able to hips to, so lame excuse

By the way, where is one of the finest hunters in Snowbourn™ gone? Drown?

Originally Posted by Dacil

Example no1: Liggo after hipsing , tnging and running from me said his dps skills where bugged. = Excuse

I thought he meant after he hipsed and tnged, he ran... :P

Originally Posted by GrandCru

By the way, where is one of the finest hunters in Snowbourn™ gone? Drown?

No, I just don't play my hunter anymore because it's only level 28... oh wait, you're talking about someone else.

Originally Posted by GrandCru

By the way, where is one of the finest hunters in Snowbourn™ gone? Drown?

it isnt anymore since i have retired to creeps problems with that?

Originally Posted by Elilreth

it isnt anymore

Has it ever been?

Originally Posted by GrandCru

Has it ever been?

i was dissappointed in you yesterday that you didnt try to steal the relic

Thanks for the answers

Daec/Flech whatever you want to be called. Seriously give it up, stop making complete and utter cr*p up on the forums, and add your slant on it. Learn a few bits on how to act from Vital and some of the people on this game and chill, i'll leave you now to think up reply while i'm at work, i know it takes you some time, ./pat.

It's a game mate, one that you take far too seriously, if you feel the need to lie to make yourself look better, gl to you, but seriously chill out, stop typing 7 page replies, clearly you have nothing else to do, so i pity you.

Gl in game, cya soon. Enjoy etc etc.

Originally Posted by Dacil

Miss that... really it tell all.

So how is pvp on Snowbourn ? zS

Belphegor sayd that pvp on Snowbourn is quite Hard and terryfing