Is it really that important? Does it make a significant difference, or is it only negligible?
I'm lvl 44, Hunter, and have equipped four virtues at level 4 (can't remember which ones atm). Been doing some deeds to acquire the higher levels. But it's a boring process. A few of the deeds require traveling extensively across Middle Earth to complete them. Or killing like a million spiders in the barrows.
Wondering if it's worth my time to do this? Or should I just focus on legendary items and equipment/weapons instead?
You will need virtues at a decent level, it's a must =)
You can get the virtue deeds done easily when higher level but making them on-level makes it a bit more fun. You get some class skill deeds done, you can probably use what loot you get etc. I find doing those virtues too late makes it doubly boring.
Like Macro said, it's a little more boring when you're a higher level, but it will go significantly faster.
Until you hit cap, don't worry about virtues too much. For the most part, equip the higher leveled ones (within reason, of course. Equip Fortitude at any level as a hunter and I'm going to stab you.) and then figure out which ones you want at cap.
I wait until the level cap and complete the ones I want (usually with slayer deed accelerators).
Fara
Doing it with slayer deed accelerators is a great option =)
However, grinding some virtues at 44, you'll 1) get some skill deeds done since the mobs are still green-orange and 2) you'll get plenty tp at the same time from the quest hubs you'll pass on the way and from the deeds themselves.
If your main is 40-50, most likely you can really use the extra TP better now than if you rush to level cap first =) Even if VIP, you get a lot of extra stuff that start to look like fun to spend on, deco slots, wardrobe, storage space, shared storage...
Just skip the virtue slayer deeds that are already too far below your level. Make 46 47, grab that decent start LI and go killkill =)))
Is it really that important? Does it make a significant difference, or is it only negligible? ... Wondering if it's worth my time to do this? Or should I just focus on legendary items and equipment/weapons instead?
I (respectfully) disagree with the blanket statements, above, that Virtues are not important until mid-/end-game content, at higher levels. I would say that each ''level-maxed''* Virtue could be comparable to the (very approximate) equivalence of a single equipped item - one piece of jewelry, one piece of armour, one weapon, etc, in the bonuses that are provided. If you're dieing a lot, then I'd say it's very important. If you're doing fine, then it won't be important until you find yourself starting to die a lot.
(* Each Virtue has over a dozen levels, but not all are practically achievable at lower-/mid-levels. My estimation of their worth is, clearly, a very rough and approximate equivalence.)
I'm lvl 44, Hunter, and have equipped four virtues at level 4 (can't remember which ones atm). Been doing some deeds to acquire the higher levels. But it's a boring process.
Originally Posted by Lohi
Don't do stuff that's boring in a game.
This.
Understand that one doesn't need all the Virtues, or even ''most'' (necessarily). Some are clearly only approp for Casters, others only for Tanks, or Melee, or the Hunter (the only true ''ranged weapon'' class). Understanding Virtues is not hard, but to know which to pursue and which you can ignore requires some reading. 80
The Wiki will quickly show what bonuses can be achieved with any one Virtue.
A few of the deeds require traveling extensively across Middle Earth to complete them. Or killing like a million spiders in the barrows.
90. (30 for Basic, +60 for Advanced, where the Trait shows up.)
However, the majority of Slayer Deeds are mostly covered simply by doing the local quests. In the Shire, there are a half dozen(?) ''spider'' quests, and you'll be more than 50% there by the time you do those. (If you care about TP, knocking out the 45 quests for ''Hero of X Region'' Deed is a good idea anyway.
If you don't, there are usually specific areas where one particular target monster is densely populated, making grinding those Deeds faster. And, as mentioned above, Slayer accelerators can help immensely (and you get 1 hr worth free w/ every new character, in that Blue Gift Box.)
For the geographically ''widespread'' Virtues, perhaps better to pick those up as you can, rather than narrowly chasing down each, one at a time. By the time you cover a few areas of questing, you should have them (mostly) finished.
90. (30 for Basic, +60 for Advanced, where the Trait shows up.)
I believe the OP was referring to the Barrow-spider deed (http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Deed:...er_(Bree-land)) not the regular Bree spider deed. Barrow-spiders requires you to kill 450 total in a small area that has a decent spawn rate, but only ~20 spiders or so.
I'm not a dedicated power gamer, so I'm not going to spend time killing hundreds of mobs for another rank in Determination. What I've found works best for me is making sure that I do all the quest deeds in an area, and pick up the exploration deeds wherever possible. Then I just slot the five virtues with the most points. I like to think of virtues as free buffs that give me a little edge, rather than obligatory chores that I have to grind through. This might change at the highest competitive levels, with serious raiders and PvMPers, but a level 44 hunter has a long way to go before that becomes an issue.
What I've found works best for me is making sure that I do all the quest deeds in an area, and pick up the exploration deeds wherever possible.
That does work well. If you kill for no reason except to get the deed, then it's grinding. But if you're doing something else that you enjoy and the deed happens as a side effect then it's not grinding. I like exploring and I like doing quests. Also even if you don't get the deed done while questing you still will have a large chunk of the deed done, so if you come back later it won't be as long to finish it.
With three expansions now there are LOTS of ways to get virtues done. I've got some of them up to 20. If you hate Shire slug killing then there will be other ways to get that virtue finished. It used to be that exploring or "patience" deeds (ie, delivering mail) got you boring virtues not used by many people, but in Moria there are explore deeds that give you some very useful virtues.
If you run instances you will get the deeds from those instances merely by running them normally. Of course, people have skipped past Moria now so to get some deeds done you'll have to come back after you have move beyond Moria. And sadly the newer max level instances give boring things like IXP runes instead of virtues. If you're max level though then grab a couple other high level players and head into a Moria instance; you'll blast through it while having a blast, getting quests and deeds and rep done along the way. Or head into Carn Dum or Urugarth, have a blast, get rep/deeds plus class quest items to give away to friends or strangers.
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