Thread: A keen Response

before U7 ı use "Akeen Response" , succsesuful parries or Pparries restores wardens power, and when ı was ın determınation AND with 6-7 mobs realy pow ımmunity, newer lose power, ıt works at determınation, ı didnt see any buff about ıt but seems lıke it restore power before, and ı test it Pits of ıron 1. boss, ı try it without it t2 solo, and almost done, out of power and ıt means for warden end of way, after ı use "keen response" never lose power sure some pot ı use:P and done it

But after U7, when determınation nothing, but when u go recklessness u get a buff and "scale with every use wall of steel and restore power, and seems lıke now " a keen response" just restore power only at recklessness??

any ıdea?

The trait "A Keen Response" works fine for me in determination. If I do not use DBTD i can test this using combat analysis. My PPS restored is greater then 0 and the number of times power is restored is equal to the number of times I parry or partially parry. It does seem strange however that the amount of power restored per parry is only half of what the tool tip states. Tool tip states 1%, my power pool is 2,211. 1% should be 22 power but, a parry only restores 11 power. Which is .05 % of maximum power.

tested several times using combatanalysis

but on ur vital, no buff about ıt, but ıf u check on recklessness, u get buff with stack as usıng how mnay wall of stell u use, and then ı thought may be something change

Originally Posted by taner_yurttas_67

but on ur vital, no buff about ıt, but ıf u check on recklessness, u get buff with stack as usıng how mnay wall of stell u use, and then ı thought may be something change

This is a different buff that you get specifically while in Reckelessness when you use wall of steel. Unrelated to the trait "A keen response"

Originally Posted by acklandm

The trait "A Keen Response" works fine for me in determination. If I do not use DBTD i can test this using combat analysis. My PPS restored is greater then 0 and the number of times power is restored is equal to the number of times I parry or partially parry. It does seem strange however that the amount of power restored per parry is only half of what the tool tip states. Tool tip states 1%, my power pool is 2,211. 1% should be 22 power but, a parry only restores 11 power. Which is .05 % of maximum power.

tested several times using combatanalysis

You should bug that. For a while the power restore for DBtD was also only half of what it says on the tooltip. Makes me think I should go test the morale restore on block from that other slottable trait. Seems they maybe copy/pasted the same line of code for them all then just edited the part that says when it should happen and to either morale or power...

Got these out of a combat log during a level 75 rift skirm raid.

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The Strong Béolach Spellsinger tried to use a weak melee attack on Priphea but she parried the attempt.
Keen Response applied a heal to Priphea restoring 10 points to Power.
...
The Tormented Horror tried to use a weak melee attack on Priphea but she blocked the attempt.
Skillful Blocking applied a heal to Priphea restoring 77 points to Morale.

They are both applying 0.5% instead of 1%. I had 2000ish power and 15k-ish morale, not 1000 and 8k.

Also, is it just me or is Dark Before The Dawn restoring less power than it used to? I'm only getting 178 upfront power restored per use, and I coulda sworn it used to be more than that.

Originally Posted by Tapkoh

Got these out of a combat log during a level 75 rift skirm raid.

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The Strong Béolach Spellsinger tried to use a weak melee attack on Priphea but she parried the attempt.
Keen Response applied a heal to Priphea restoring 10 points to Power.
...
The Tormented Horror tried to use a weak melee attack on Priphea but she blocked the attempt.
Skillful Blocking applied a heal to Priphea restoring 77 points to Morale.

They are both applying 0.5% instead of 1%. I had 2000ish power and 15k-ish morale, not 1000 and 8k.

Do we know if these numbers are before or after incoming healing is applied? The end result of a block heal for myself is 110 points, with just over 16k morale myself it should be 160 points

I would say that incoming healing does not affect it at all in my case, based on what the combat log shows.

The site says my warden has 14465 morale and 2004 power. I did have a token so that would make morale 15188. Now 0.5% of both of those is 76 morale and 10 power. Given the likely scenario that I had a vitality buff too from a minstrel or food, that would explain the 76 - 77 difference. Power is spot on. Both those numbers appeared in the combat log.

If my incoming healing (18.x%) had been factored in that would make them 91 and 12, which aren't what we see in the log. If incoming healing was factored in beforehand, then that would mean the traits are even worse since they'd be restoring 65 morale and 8 power or 0.4% of max.

If you had 16k morale and assuming this is bugged at 0.5% instead of 1%, then you would get healed for 80. You would need an incoming healing percentage of 37.5% to reach 110 that way. I do not see how you would end up at 110.

ok i apologize, 110 was from memory without double checking, a block restores 101 morale, just checked in CA without using any other skills that heal. 16k ish morale 20%

Originally Posted by Tapkoh

Got these out of a combat log during a level 75 rift skirm raid.

Code:

The Strong Béolach Spellsinger tried to use a weak melee attack on Priphea but she parried the attempt.
Keen Response applied a heal to Priphea restoring 10 points to Power.
...
The Tormented Horror tried to use a weak melee attack on Priphea but she blocked the attempt.
Skillful Blocking applied a heal to Priphea restoring 77 points to Morale.

They are both applying 0.5% instead of 1%. I had 2000ish power and 15k-ish morale, not 1000 and 8k.

Figured as much. Everyone should bug this in game. The more people report it the more likely it gets fixed quicklier.

Squeaky wheel and all....

Originally Posted by Tapkoh

I would say that incoming healing does not affect it at all in my case, based on what the combat log shows.

The site says my warden has 14465 morale and 2004 power. I did have a token so that would make morale 15188. Now 0.5% of both of those is 76 morale and 10 power. Given the likely scenario that I had a vitality buff too from a minstrel or food, that would explain the 76 - 77 difference. Power is spot on. Both those numbers appeared in the combat log.

If my incoming healing (18.x%) had been factored in that would make them 91 and 12, which aren't what we see in the log. If incoming healing was factored in beforehand, then that would mean the traits are even worse since they'd be restoring 65 morale and 8 power or 0.4% of max.

If you had 16k morale and assuming this is bugged at 0.5% instead of 1%, then you would get healed for 80. You would need an incoming healing percentage of 37.5% to reach 110 that way. I do not see how you would end up at 110.

Well, if you counted both outgoing and incoming healing that would be possible. I remember before the trait became bugged I had 13.7~k morale yet blocks would heal me for 181 even though I only had 18% incoming healing. I only understood it when I noticed that I had 11-12% outgoing healing

If the bug was a .5% heal 16k morale could heal for 110 by having 10% outgoing healing and 25% incoming healing

On the plus side, they appear to have fixed the DbtD pulses so they actually give 2% now. I'm getting pulses of 44 on my 2.2k power pool, which is as it should be.

Maybe they broke the block/parry restores when they fixed that.

still am not sure if they nerf its, restoring power ability, may be they did it secret way? cause sometimes game dev. do somethings about classes and u dont know:P ı dont know,

why ı suspect??

thats the reason: Everyone know Pits of İsınguard T2 First Boss, all the time whıle u fight summon adds,and as a warden u have no chance kıll quick lots of them if u try solo,

Pits Of Isıngard T2 1. Boss Solo

Scene 1: without "a keen response"

Boss Health: %46, I was out of Power, cant heal self, Buff myself, Death...THE END


Scene 2: With "a Keen Response"

Bosss Down, all the time ı use wal of stell and parry atacks newer lose my power all the time my power over + %80 , so all th time heal myself, also use when ı need Dark before... for restore power, whıle fight, ı have 6-7 adds with boss, and it help me for more parry, it means more power restore, and more leech health,

And now, U7, I try T3, 3man Skırmıshes, I dıd, but whıle ı fight, ı use pots, and parry not work for restore power, my power lose to %10, lose too much power, and ı have better gea now then before, TOO gear, and Dragon mıx,

I dont think ," A kenn response" work fıne aslıke as BEFORE, yes ıts work seems lıke at comabat stats, but not LIKE BEFORE, if anyone know it before,

Okay, first of all, if English is your second or third language, I understand, but if not, there's no excuse for the atrocities of your grammar and spelling.

Secondly, you should be using Dark Before the Dawn in your regular rotation. It outputs a fair amount of damage, and no longer carries a morale % requirement. I never have power problems anymore, and I don't usually slot A Keen Response.

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but is anyone else still getting less power returned from traiting keen response then they are supposed to?

My power pool is 1,922 unbuffed

Keen response activated 354 times restoring 3,540 power, which is 10 power per activation which is no where near 1% and the trait claims.