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    Having problems on my BA in 1v1.

    Im trying to beat this cappy who refuses to lose, by that I mean, he deals a lot of dps and take close to no damage. Im trying to kite him, but eventually he catches up to me and yeah...

    There is also this warden I dont seem to have much to say against, we had several fights and he won every fight, range, without self-heals, melee etc.. im guessing I wont be able to beat him, but any advices are welcome.

    Note: I 1v1 without Moving target & Get a grip

    oh, while I have my little thread, Am I wrong in saying that the BA suffered the most of the creep classes when audacity came?
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    Re: Having problems on my BA in 1v1.

    If you want to roflkite just strafe in skirm stance while keeping him slowed. If he has Make Haste bonus, slow him again as soon as you can. You can outrun him going straight as long as he is slowed, don't matter if he has slow on you and make haste is still up.

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    Re: Having problems on my BA in 1v1.

    Quote Originally Posted by deeman25845601 View Post
    If you want to roflkite just strafe in skirm stance while keeping him slowed. If he has Make Haste bonus, slow him again as soon as you can. You can outrun him going straight as long as he is slowed, don't matter if he has slow on you and make haste is still up.
    Slow = 25% iirc and Make Haste is 25% so he won't be able to outrun him if both are up.

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    Re: Having problems on my BA in 1v1.

    Quote Originally Posted by Witch0King View Post

    Note: I 1v1 without Moving target & Get a grip
    Found your problem.....

    But the captain should never catch you unless he has the slow removal on his make haste, and even then i don't think it lasts the entire duration of make haste (i could be wrong) so slow again when you can.
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    Re: Having problems on my BA in 1v1.

    Fairly sure the slow immunity lasts 5 seconds.

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    Re: Having problems on my BA in 1v1.

    Captain;
    Fire Trap -- Hindering shot -- Fire DoT -- Punctured Target -- Vital Target -- Punctured Target

    Once fire trap expires, drop another hindering & start to kite a bit, if he pops make haste & has coffee on - (not sure if it stacks to 35%) flip 'round and do another hindering & punctured, fire DoT too if its off cooldown. Make haste slow immunity lasts 5 seconds, so after that get back to kiting - drop snares and leg it, flip and nuke - profit.

    PS; all the way through this, use Strong Pull during puctured/fire DoT CDs.

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    Re: Having problems on my BA in 1v1.

    hah, thank you guys, Ill see what I can do

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    Re: Having problems on my BA in 1v1.

    you can keep cappys easily slowed all the time and if he make hastes then face him and pot MT lol :s
    wardens are imposible,unless he is might geared and you can fool him on FT which is a bit hard
    Punct target is the most expensive and good dps skill we have so i suggest dont spent many corruptions to get -%power cost
    I have like 4,2k? and my big problem on these heavy classes is the lack of power

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    Re: Having problems on my BA in 1v1.

    Quote Originally Posted by Witch0King View Post
    Note: I 1v1 without Moving target & Get a grip
    Quote Originally Posted by Tangaar View Post
    you can keep cappys easily slowed all the time and if he make hastes then face him and pot MT lol :s
    wardens are imposible,unless he is might geared and you can fool him on FT which is a bit hard
    Punct target is the most expensive and good dps skill we have so i suggest dont spent many corruptions to get -%power cost
    I have like 4,2k? and my big problem on these heavy classes is the lack of power
    Agreed though, warden's - since they got the 40% mits are pretty hard to fight, if they pop that. Not fought (any?) wardens since U6 due to lack of wardens. However, I'll give a bash at some tactics;

    Fire trap -> if he pops DC (40%) mits, keep him perma-slowed & break Line of Sight if possible, after DC has run out 30s? then still keep him at range and pewpew, just gotta hope that his dps & morale pool is lower than yours I think, otherwise its game over.
    Could also try, when breaking LoS, if his DC has nearly ran out - placing another firetrap then kiting him round the object and through the firetrap.

    E/ ya definately some huge power issues on BA atm, so save some commendations for the 1.1k~ power pots, make a huge difference I feel. - pot them as soon as they will be effective, not when you run out of power too.
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    Re: Having problems on my BA in 1v1.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonDragoon View Post
    Slow = 25% iirc and Make Haste is 25% so he won't be able to outrun him if both are up.
    BA slow is -40%, Captain slow is -25% and MH is 25%.

    These numbers are not additive, trust me. If they were, then yes, a Captain should be able to outrun the Black-arrow. I have tested this both on my Captain against a Black-arrow and on my Black-arrow against a Captain. When both players are slowed and the Captain has Make Haste active, the Black-arrow has a faster run speed. And if you choose not to believe me, test it out yourself.
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    Re: Having problems on my BA in 1v1.

    Quote Originally Posted by deeman25845601 View Post
    BA slow is -40%, Captain slow is -25% and MH is 25%.

    These numbers are not additive, trust me. If they were, then yes, a Captain should be able to outrun the Black-arrow. I have tested this both on my Captain against a Black-arrow and on my Black-arrow against a Captain. When both players are slowed and the Captain has Make Haste active, the Black-arrow has a faster run speed. And if you choose not to believe me, test it out yourself.
    Oddly aggressive, however; with one of the ettenmoors set, Make Haste has an immunity to slow for 5 seconds, allowing the captain to catch up to and out-run.
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    Re: Having problems on my BA in 1v1.

    also when fighting a captian make sure your not in range for the 10s after uses battle cry, you defently dont want his rotation after that to crit would mean a self buff or heal, may seem like a longer fight then you wish but dot/kiting is most effective vsing capt's. i also have beaten some in keen eye with FT on the floor at my back to a rock or wall, stops them running though you to LoS your attacks and keeneye VT can hit hard, that strat isnt as reliable since capts dps lately has been buffed.

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