As some of you may have noticed, I was soloing most of yesterday and today. Got mowed down by the creep raid quite a few times... but hey, it happens. Also, my rating went down from ~1.2k to 773.
So much for the challenge....... most of the day consisted from what i could see later in the day and heard from earlier in the day of Mlsoun and co. ganking Lola as i would imagine others. I saw quite a few smaller freep groups out this afternoon and through the evening but one seemingly big creep group mowing them down. But i dont blame them to much, from what it looked like they will be at the top of the leaderboards and ppl dont always get the memos.
My group was only 3-5 large and we had some reds following us that were outside of my group. I don't think that you were so weak, we had a lot of balanced fights with larger freeps group than was our and sometimes we were killed. Yes, we killed soloing freeps, but when I'm soloing I'm slayed too, it is risk of soloing. Nutty, remember that you and lola helped that freep group to kill us. In addition, freeps were a lot of time hiden in EC or camping on stairs of GV so why don't push EC or make trap at GV hill? I think that it was good night on both sides. Nice fights with tree's band and others.
So i log in Sat and there is apparently a freep raid rolling around and I get asked to make a creep raid.
Giant fail on both sides.
When you consider yourself so important that you can dictate gameplay in an open PVP zone you're kind of opening yourself up for a giant fail. Of course you have to say the freeps had a raid rolling around, which somehow in your mind gives you a ticket to form your own raid thus rendering your whole idea about as useless as an ashtray on a motorcycle...
When you consider yourself so important that you can dictate gameplay in an open PVP zone you're kind of opening yourself up for a giant fail. Of course you have to say the freeps had a raid rolling around, which somehow in your mind gives you a ticket to form your own raid thus rendering your whole idea about as useless as an ashtray on a motorcycle...
Fail indeed...
Oh sorry, trying to make suggestions to alter gameplay somewhat from the redundancy is somehow wrong. There was no creep raid, I was asked to make one, and I said no. When I went freepside to see if anyone was even attempting to small group, I was met by a gaggle of people content to be jerks. So, i went back creepside, made a riad and killed whatever I could find. If people were more civil, that would not have transpired.
"The freeps largeness disappears when they see Plok's largeness"
Oh sorry, trying to make suggestions to alter gameplay somewhat from the redundancy is somehow wrong. There was no creep raid, I was asked to make one, and I said no. When I went freepside to see if anyone was even attempting to small group, I was met by a gaggle of people content to be jerks. So, i went back creepside, made a riad and killed whatever I could find. If people were more civil, that would not have transpired.
Well yeah it is something wrong. The only thing redundant is what you do everyday. So many of us do small group stuff every, single day. Just do your thing. Do your zerg and shoot-on-site and EC-flood thing. That's fine. Do it and be quiet. You're not teaching anyone a lesson in manners. You're not going to convince everyone to play a certain way with a thread. Oh! You made a thread and when people were jerks to you, you really taught them! Yay, you zerged people, they won't be jerks anymore. Good job.
I haven't been killed by your zerg today. And I've only seen it once. Yet, I've had tens of great fights. All over the map.
The only people you're paying back are the raid babies on the other side. It's really cute how a bunch of TA-sitting, OC/EC zergers think their so cool and are teaching the other side a lesson when their just doing the same thing. Well done!
Well yeah it is something wrong. The only thing redundant is what you do everyday.
Originally Posted by soccercake7
So many of us do small group stuff every, single day.
What is the difference?
Originally Posted by soccercake7
Just do your thing. Do your zerg and shoot-on-site and EC-flood thing. That's fine. Do it and be quiet. You're not teaching anyone a lesson in manners. You're not going to convince everyone to play a certain way with a thread.
Yeah man, you should really live by your own words. Do it and be quiet.
What the small groups to every, single day is roam the map. Find new fights. Find new challenges.
What the raid babies do is sit on TA or stab or wtab or ec or oc or a keep and sit there and pew pew in a big ball.
Sorry Tarbosh for not explaining that further. I find the small group fighting to be much more unpredictable whereas the raid babies are so incredibly predictable on stab/wtab/oc/ec/keeps/etc
I do do my thing. I find lots of fights. Just pointing out the inconsistencies. The same people that whine about 'Creeps in EC' are inside OC in an hour. It's so sad.
EDIT: Deepest Apologies Tarbosh. I do my thing. And then I hear about these raid babies have pissy fights over what color the map is and who has the bigger group. It's just funny that they think their proving something. Oh, they were rude to me, so I'll show them by making a big group! That'll show them! YEAH!
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What the small groups to every, single day is roam the map. Find new fights. Find new challenges.
What the raid babies do is sit on TA or stab or wtab or ec or oc or a keep and sit there and pew pew in a big ball.
Sorry Tarbosh for not explaining that further. I find the small group fighting to be much more unpredictable whereas the raid babies are so incredibly predictable on stab/wtab/oc/ec/keeps/etc
I do do my thing. I find lots of fights. Just pointing out the inconsistencies. The same people that whine about 'Creeps in EC' are inside OC in an hour. It's so sad.
Why does it bother you that people pew pew pew in a big ball? And I'm not even being snarky, I don't see why that is so bothersome. Believe it or not, that isn't my idea of a good time either; but who cares? If you are out there doing your thing, and they are doing their thing, why are you so snotty about it? You aren't "better" than anyone else out there.
People running around alone or in small groups are NO BETTER or SKILLED than anyone else in the bigger picture simply because of being alone or in a small group.
Why does it bother you that people pew pew pew in a big ball? And I'm not even being snarky, I don't see why that is so bothersome. Believe it or not, that isn't my idea of a good time either; but who cares? If you are out there doing your thing, and they are doing their thing, why are you so snotty about it? You aren't "better" than anyone else out there.
People running around alone or in small groups are NO BETTER or SKILLED than anyone else in the bigger picture simply because of being alone or in a small group.
I disagree. And it's so fun to point out the inconsistencies and ask a very simple, why? to someone who maps in and says:
[ooc]: Open raid?
[ooc]: Where's the action?
It bothers me because we have a huge map and so many of us wandering it finding good fights. It's extremely lazy to sit in one spot and gain inflated renown/infamy.
It bothers me because we're on this map to PvP; yet so many refuse to even try.
It bothers me because there is not ONE action. There is a huge map with LOTS of action.
It bothers me because Turbine rewards ONE big action. You must fight here *points at map* or you arn't part of the team.
It bothers me because, when there is ACTION and PvP to be had, 15 decide to stay grouped up when there is only 4 opposition (late nights)
It bothers me because it seems, at times, people are more interested in PvEing than PvPing which is what the map is for.
It honestly breaks my heart that so many settle for so little. I want to encourage PvP. On all scales. Being solo is fun. Being in a raid is fun. I love PvP.
But I want to question the lazy ones. I want to point out the inconsistencies. I want those who EXCLUSIVELY solo or EXCLUSIVELY raid to think about what they're doing. Don't just map here and solo. Don't just map here and raid up.
You arn't proving anything when you go around zerging. You arn't proving anything when you're hiding constantly, either in a keep or hiding in exclusive parts of the map (me).
Too many settle for a LINE. Creeps stand here. Freeps stand there. Red Rover Red Rover send ZERG on over. But when people are EXCLUSIVELY raided up constantly, they get tunnel vision. It's so sad to watch a 20 freeps/creeps go down a road and not even look left/right. That's why, as you know yourself Tarbosh, it's so INCREDIBLY EASY to flank a huge group. Because they're lazy. They map here, join a group for no reason, then stand around looking forward.
Spread out. Don't be bullied into being grouped up. Don't be anti-social and hide. Open PvP is a lot of fun. It's so much fun to never be safe. The best nights out there is when you can't go anywhere safe, everywhere you look at freeps and creeps. There's no lines with one side there and one side here.
And that's what I'm proving. Look, Plok zergs up and it's SO EASY to avoid them; because they're predictable and lazy.
Be unpredictable. Don't always raid up. Don't always be solo. Don't be safe. Don't be lazy.
While I agree with many of your points Fell, I think you miss some of the reverse.
You have your view of "good pvp". Fine, we all do.
But its so rigid that you define "bad pvp" and anyone doing it as "lazy". Then you proceed to diminish them and say "I just want people to have fun". But they ARE having fun. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean they should do it YOUR way and NOT have fun.
Everyone has their thing. I disagree that the zergballs as you call them are detrimental to the Moors. What you want is more and different people to fight, but it just isn't there. Don't hate the player, hate the game man
Everyone has their thing. I disagree that the zergballs as you call them are detrimental to the Moors. What you want is more and different people to fight, but it just isn't there. Don't hate the player, hate the game man
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But I think you have to agree the zergs are inconsistent. The SAME players whine about being zerged in EC, then do it moments later in OC.
As a result, I think they ARE detrimental.
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But I think you have to agree the zergs are inconsistent. The SAME players whine about being zerged in EC, then do it moments later in OC.
As a result, I think they ARE detrimental.
Fell, I think you are on the verge of a stroke. HOW THE ###* do you know what size group I am in or if I am even in one? YOU DON'T. Largest group i have been in recently is 12 and have had two days wehre I ran solo all day, so shove it whiner.
"The freeps largeness disappears when they see Plok's largeness"
Fell, I think you are on the verge of a stroke. HOW THE ###* do you know what size group I am in or if I am even in one? YOU DON'T. Largest group i have been in recently is 12 and have had two days wehre I ran solo all day, so shove it whiner.
Sorry. I don't. You're absolutely right. I just pass by EC in an odd way where most people don't check, and I see you and others INSIDE EC. Sorry to assume. But I can be "solo" and zerging OC with others. Doesn't really justify it....
You're just the flavor of the month. Apologies.....
You know, some people play this game to like, play with other people. I personally, If I wanted to play by myself, there is CRPG or ARMA2..... there's a certain amount of hilarity and amusement that comes with raiding.
I'd wager that the bulk of folks do a hybrid/combo of solo, small group and raid, depending on what's happening at a particular time.
My usual routine is start out soloing on dailies, call out any freeps I see (single or grouped). I'll immediately map if I hear about camping of rezzes, map-ins or Grams and then resume soloing. I'll also head to an OP flip if I haven't flipped that day, or they need help, and again, back to solo. If there's a push against one of our keeps, I may or may not join--depends on what the overall map looks like, and whether I'm stocked up or not on food/pots, and how big the freep group is pushing (larger the freep group, the more likely I'll jump into the scrum to help balance #s). I usually will only join a raid group if I'm invited to do so by someone I know, or those times when we have an all blue map, or a massive freep raid running about.
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I'd wager that the bulk of folks do a hybrid/combo of solo, small group and raid, depending on what's happening at a particular time.
My usual routine is start out soloing on dailies, call out any freeps I see (single or grouped). I'll immediately map if I hear about camping of rezzes, map-ins or Grams and then resume soloing. I'll also head to an OP flip if I haven't flipped that day, or they need help, and again, back to solo. If there's a push against one of our keeps, I may or may not join--depends on what the overall map looks like, and whether I'm stocked up or not on food/pots, and how big the freep group is pushing (larger the freep group, the more likely I'll jump into the scrum to help balance #s). I usually will only join a raid group if I'm invited to do so by someone I know, or those times when we have an all blue map, or a massive freep raid running about.
Just my 2 hobbit toes.
This is true, I run solo, small group or in a raid depending on what is going on. I spend most of my time scouting for freeps in keeps, and on occasion get run over by a raid or a small group.
If I see fight club on GTA, I will call it out, if I happen to walk up on candy mountain and find a fight there, or even in the area past POP, I may watch from stealth for a bit, but will not call it out. I do not personally like fight clubs, but if it is away from the general map zones, i really do not care.
And yet like others mentioned, I seem to be always tagged as being in the raid. Ah well, let those with little else to do but run off at the mouth chatter on. I will continue to play as I do up until I am ready to depart for that other land. Would be great if folks stopped worrying about who is with who and looked more to some real pvp.
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