Thread: Ultimate Evernight Thread: Evernight Strikes Back 6

They were fun fights, sadly creep paranoia brought them to an early end. There was no spy feeding information to the raid. Although you may think your flanks are tactical genius, most of the time they are entirely predictable.

Originally Posted by Tarenius

Although you may think your flanks are tactical genius, most of the time they are entirely predictable.

Loving the irony .

I had raid with kin tonight and after killed saruman t1 i'm go off.

I saw a good raid starting in etten and i'm glad to read that now

Tbh i can undestand the feeling when you become flanked. I think atm the creep healer need a really big rank for have a good healing and still not enought with the damage of the moment.
And at last too many nerdraging warg runforkillanyone :P

Well the people is the same at last form both side but ... frepp are more ranged damage :P that's help a lot !

Anyway enjoy and see you soon in moors

Who was complaining about flanks being 2nd guessed Eraelin?? That happens all the time... certainly Freep attempts nearly always get predicted and reported in. I wouldn't imagine that to be any different for ours either.

Here's to more good times like last night and to the hope that nothing happens to ruin it.

Originally Posted by Vi0lence

Who was complaining about flanks being 2nd guessed Eraelin?? That happens all the time... certainly Freep attempts nearly always get predicted and reported in. I wouldn't imagine that to be any different for ours either.

Here's to more good times like last night and to the hope that nothing happens to ruin it.

So, if not your location, what useful information can a spy (that didn't actually exist, but humour me) give you?

Originally Posted by Tarenius

So, if not your location, what useful information can a spy (that didn't actually exist, but humour me) give you?

Number of players on the raid , number of healers , who's leading , who's healing who ...

Don't you ever ask these questions yourself ?

Also , you seem very confident that all of these comments are just creep paranoia .

Sorry if I don't believe your naive acting , I highly doubt you've never seen proof of freep players spying the creep ooc .

So many times I've seen a creep trashing a freep on ooc just to see said freep logging to start a discussion , or troll , or my favourite: troll the midget minstrels to see them react to every thing you say .

I once saw an entire zizerg using the /liedown emote on east river trying to hide . The very moment I laughed at them in the ooc , they all mounted and left .

Paranoia ? I don't think so .

Tbh both sides spy ,so in effect that corrects the balance......

Originally Posted by Louvre

Number of players on the raid , number of healers , who's leading , who's healing who ...

Lol, yes, those things are incredibly useful and certainly can't be found out in 2 seconds using your eyes or tracking. If we know the creep raid has 8 healers we can.. oh.. hmm.. yeah.

...
Paranoia ? I don't think so .

Either paranoia or a scapegoat for wiping, whichever you prefer.

Originally Posted by Tarenius

Lol, yes, those things are incredibly useful and certainly can't be found out in 2 seconds using your eyes or tracking. If we know the creep raid has 8 healers we can.. oh.. hmm.. yeah.

You do realize it is not I who's making the questions here , don't you ?

A stupid answer , for a stupid question .

Originally Posted by Tarenius

Either paranoia or a scapegoat for wiping, whichever you prefer.

That never fails to amuse me , thanks .

I think it's to mask the creep incompetance of late, a bit of paranioa but mostly to make drama. (Forum is pretty dead without the flaming huh guys ^^)

Just look at Louvre going into a discussion and than... saying he isn't the one asking questions... maybe you didn't ask, but surely you can answer, it's a forum afterall why else bother to use it.

Atrio stop fc mio rk pliss, no moar elf kb's for you.

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

Just look at Louvre going into a discussion and than... saying he isn't the one asking questions... maybe you didn't ask, but surely you can answer,

Didn't I ?

Ong , avoid being high while reading the forums .

It should be praised however , that you did notice something ...

who are the healer ? I know ... defiler no need more !!!

For freep can be more hard, you need to look on mini and if he miss WS and RK can heal too. Captain are another good healer.

Anyway atm low rank creep are really useless and heal is too much low for a raid.

Too much OP class for freep and only warg are OP atm for creep and ... 80% of the player are warg atm <.<

Originally Posted by Louvre

You do realize it is not I who's making the questions here , don't you ?

A stupid answer , for a stupid question .



That never fails to amuse me , thanks .

More entirely sensible question & stupid answer, but I don't expect much more.

I'm sure you are right though, the reason the creeps wiped was a spy telling us that boon was leading & you had 8 healers.

Originally Posted by Tarenius

but I don't expect much more.

Can I borrow this ?

Originally Posted by Tarenius

I'm sure you are right though, the reason the creeps wiped was a spy telling us that boon was leading & you had 8 healers.

I never said such a thing . I quoted EXACTLY what I meant to quote , and wrote my very personal opinion about it .

Do I believe there are freeps spying on creep ooc ? Yes I do .
Have I witnessed it myself ? Yes I have .
Was I at any point debating about why said creep raid disbanded / wiped ? No , I was not .

But I don't expect much more - by Tarenius .

blah blah words etc

K/d ratio actually went up on Mon night and there were wipes/deaths for both sides that I recall

''most of the time they are entirely predictable. '

most = some/not everything/not all

Entirely = everything/all/100%

both sides flank so moot point

But regardless of wether there was a spy or not there were some cracking fights that evening, some of the best action for ages

Boonie

The Avengers Officer

Black Guard Officer


ps who is that lovely reaver Criip who just stands looking at the Grams Tyrant all day or is so shy he stands behind a tree at the back of grams

Yes, they were nice fights and there were wipes on both sides. It's just sad that you have to resort to accusing freeps (& presumably Ong, since he was leading) of spying when the fights didn't go your way at the end of the evening. Not that having a spy would really make any difference to the outcome of a fight.

Another fun evening yesterday y'all. Good times. Cheers.

Originally Posted by Tarenius

Yes, they were nice fights and there were wipes on both sides. It's just sad that you have to resort to accusing freeps (& presumably Ong, since he was leading) of spying when the fights didn't go your way at the end of the evening. Not that having a spy would really make any difference to the outcome of a fight.

I was acting on information that was relayed to me and had nothing to do with wether fights were going my way or not , if it happened at the start of the evening I would have done the same , I know some of the history of Ong and BG and that didn't influence my choice when I disbanded ,
I will disagree up to a point though with not making any difference in a fight , sometimes it is pretty obvious who is a RaT and who is leading, history and how fight mechanics are being observed for example but say as an example if a RaT is changed and then its focused on and the fight is moved away so the dead RaT can no longer take part can lead people to wonder
But there is a history of ooc spying for both sides but more prevalent of creep ooc spying , it also not restricted to solely ooc info can be passed via a kinnie on the opposite side via TS/vent some of it can be attributed as spying and gaining and advantage over the opposition but other times info like 'don't disband yet we'll meet you at lc hs or continue fightig just waiting on some new people' can lead to continuing action

Boonie

The Avengers officer

Black Guard Officer

Is all this necessary? The problem here is very simple. All this issues only can be fixed when people stops &&&& up when a opponent comes to you. I can smell stealthed creeps cause that

Its overwhelming each day I enter Moors. Wasted to see all people with tones of store buffs etc. Thats pure fightclubbing. Im tempted to do a huuuuuge fightclubbing, like 340k, and when someone will tell me I ll send him to hell. Hypocrites. I can tell tones of people who fightclubbed, so if u feel invested better shut up.

Switchers, spies, lotro store abusement, hipsers, easy play-mode = fightclubbing = lamer = no respect.

Long life to suicidal style, long life to Rejit.

Guild Wars 2.

I ll see that Ze Faidinyo da Souza. ./hug

Originally Posted by theboon

I was acting on information that was relayed to me and had nothing to do with wether fights were going my way or not , if it happened at the start of the evening I would have done the same , I know some of the history of Ong and BG and that didn't influence my choice when I disbanded ,
I will disagree up to a point though with not making any difference in a fight , sometimes it is pretty obvious who is a RaT and who is leading, history and how fight mechanics are being observed for example but say as an example if a RaT is changed and then its focused on and the fight is moved away so the dead RaT can no longer take part can lead people to wonder
But there is a history of ooc spying for both sides but more prevalent of creep ooc spying , it also not restricted to solely ooc info can be passed via a kinnie on the opposite side via TS/vent some of it can be attributed as spying and gaining and advantage over the opposition but other times info like 'don't disband yet we'll meet you at lc hs or continue fightig just waiting on some new people' can lead to continuing action

Boonie

The Avengers officer

Black Guard Officer

I suppose knowing who is RAT gives you an advantage, that's the only thing I've heard so far (excluding location) that actually makes a difference. It's almost always very obvious who is leader though.

There is communication between sides, of course, but not information like raid location or RAT in most cases. I'm sure some people do spy, but I doubt it's the same people that are leading raids.

Regardless, even if there was a spy he/she was not feeding info to the raid, so your sources were wrong.

Originally Posted by Herio

Guild Wars 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUa5oHgYV2k

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

I think it's to mask the players incompetance of late

Made a correction with your permission... or without him

Hmmmmm seems few of you creeps are running to GW2 ,you can run but you can't hide i will hunt your &&& down there also :P (Knew store brand----> port to any mmorpg to own there weak built classes) tbh that would be first time i would use the shop /qq jag discuss .

Anyways back to reality .

Reasons i think few are moving.

1/ boredom ?
2/ Balance ?
3/ Lag ?
4/ RVR lack of ?
5/ You like look of GW2
6/ You hate pouch ?
7/ Can't get near the windows for jag ?
8/ 10th pc you broke in anger ?
9/ Your not going to GW2 but enjoy the Sims now ?
10/ Losing sleep Dreaming about Grishnaluk <3 and Dusky <3 while you sleep at night in your (singe bed) ?

Number 10 i think for most of you big kiss raptors

Que the insults comming my way boom :P

Love you Pouch <3

the warg stalker love every hobbits <.< i duno why !

Anyway ... warg have bored in etten ... and many higth ranked creep are useless cause dont' play for creep side but only for show how much i'm imba with a rank 10+ and run alone ... or with his special friends !

Creep are the same player on freep ... at last that's happen on freep too but freep have much OP class and that boring enought !

When creep see 2 mini or 3 all leave the game ... boooooring !

Originally Posted by Guiwinner

Anyway ... warg have bored in etten ... and many higth ranked creep are useless cause dont' play for creep side but only for show how much i'm imba with a rank 10+ and run alone ... or with his special friends !

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GuiW....... What?

Originally Posted by Faildget

GuiW....... What?

This is my reaction whenever I read a post by Guiwinner.

Originally Posted by Merebrand

This is my reaction whenever I read a post by Guiwinner.

no your reaction usually is ask for more milk after you die alone like a cat !

louvre you play a warg like 3/4 of the server atm ... and write on forum about zerg ... please ... shut up too ...

What i wanan mean valdez it's that, a lot of hight ranked player never join raid or group for help other creep ... or usually i see that.

Only few player play for help community and for create a game in the ettens ... the other think only to find best target for take infamy/renow.

That's is what i see many time.
If you ask in creep side for some dpser ... you will never find one but ... if you will attack anyone ... for sure 3 warg will spawn fast !!!

Originally Posted by Guiwinner

louvre you play a warg like 3/4 of the server atm ... and write on forum about zerg ... please ... shut up too ...

Me ? A one man zerg ? Oh stop you please ! :blushes:

What the server people choose to play is none of my bussiness ( and it's not yours either to be honest ) . I've been running a stalker for over a year now , so don't you dare put me in the same bag as fotm players ( eww ) .

Still wondering why no one wants to join your groups either on creep or freep ? It's not my fault that you still think that might & agi > will for a lore-master ( your own words ) , or that a month ago you still didn't know about the existance of parables , or that you just can't understand the concept of zerg , or this or that ...

QQ much .

Some people don't want to join raids due to the epic amount of nabs in it nowadays. Nothing wrong with that to be honest, it's up to you how you want to play.

Originally Posted by Weewooweewoo

Some people don't want to join raids due to the epic amount of nabs in it nowadays. Nothing wrong with that to be honest, it's up to you how you want to play.

Sometime you can play with noobbies :P

might agility better of will why ?
I can talk about lore master in debuff, at last will it's useless because don't help you in hit rating and you don't need damage ... but is another point of viev anyway vitality is better.

Anyway i'm a lore master and play my class enought good. I'm a player and just play

I'm bored with this child play stile ... i play for fun and some time people blame me for switch ... or other bull&&&& !!

Try to learn the fun and play your game !
Game isn't rank/renow-infamy !

Originally Posted by Guiwinner

Anyway i'm a lore master and play my class enought good. I'm a player and just play

I agree on you being a player.

Originally Posted by Guiwinner

I'm bored with this child play stile ... i play for fun and some time people blame me for switch ... or other bull&&&& !!

Try to learn the fun and play your game !
Game isn't rank/renow-infamy !

Then stop being so hypocrite and let people play however they want, soloing, rolling wargs, or not grouping with noobs. Maybe is their way to have fun.

Originally Posted by Guiwinner

If you ask in creep side for some dpser ... you will never find one

That is because on creepside we have no dps classes.

@ f_vn_r (left out the id of the player for legal reasons).

Been in touch with turbine asked them to stop sending me my automated monthly batch of Turbine Points due to rage from a un-happy little warg.

Turbine did get back in touch ----> Dear p_uch (left out id for legals) best advice we can give you is let them stack untill you have 10000,0000,0000 of points then in the future when you leave the game you can watch them slip away never to be seen again.

Like Anastacia once said ( I paid my dues ) .

Lmao of at flaming yesterday......we all have friends on both sides.

Originally Posted by Guiwinner

usual mindless &&&&

You are seriously the most idiotic, hypocritical, nonsensical moron that is representative of 90% of freepside at the moment, a total embarrassment which actually makes me ashamed to call myself a primarily freep player.

You say that my reaction is to QQ when I die solo (when really, I rarely QQ, at least publicly zS), yet your reaction is to whine and rant in ooc and on forums when your pathetic groups either fail to form or wipe repeatedly to a 3 man warg pack despite the presence of x amount of tactical classes (who are equally as incompetent as yourself).

Originally Posted by Guiwinner

Sometime you can play with noobbies :P

Yeah that will be fun, I know, lets just feed the opposite side.

Originally Posted by Guiwinner

might agility better of will why ?
I can talk about lore master in debuff, at last will it's useless because don't help you in hit rating and you don't need damage ... but is another point of viev anyway vitality is better.

How the **** is this relevant to anything?

Originally Posted by Guiwinner

Anyway i'm a lore master and play my class enought good. I'm a player and just play

Nah, you're awful, like most freeps nowadays. Interesed zerg 1 crep? zS

Originally Posted by Guiwinner

I'm bored with this child play stile ... i play for fun and some time people blame me for switch ... or other bull&&&& !!

Try to learn the fun and play your game !

Most people are probably bored of your playstyle, zerg up when you die. Maybe other people play "this child play style" for their fun? Its mostly you complaining about other people, anyway...

Originally Posted by InsectorGadget

That is because on creepside we have no dps classes.

I guess you have never played a shadow warg.