Thread: Ultimate Evernight Thread: Evernight Strikes Back 6

Originally Posted by Rapidash

mate not only freeps who FC here i know many creeps who been fc but i not gonna tell their names.
i dont care who fc , so the secret stays with me, unless they feeling bad and need to tell it here, but i doubt it.

I would love to know 1 main creep player who has FC'd, freeps on their creeps and the epix kids that transfered to the greener pastures of snowy don't count :P

As far as I can tell the only people who FC are the ones that benefit from it: the freepies with all their armour, then it was to get to r8/r10 to get their so so needed epic weapons, now its for BFP? and so on.

edit: BFP is good tho for freepies, should've been brought in ages ago.

Monster Play

Freep Battlefield Promotions
Freeps now gain a Battlefield Promotion effect for each PvMP Rank they earn.
Battlefield Promotions grant bonus Health, Power and Damage for each Glory Rank the player has.
Battlefield Promotions are only active while in the Ettenmoors.

Vent your anger on the devs guys......right or wrong devs are to blame 100% ,this proposed change should never have been released so soon .

Originally Posted by Maf--

I would love to know 1 main creep player who has FC'd, freeps on their creeps and the epix kids that transfered to the greener pastures of snowy don't count :P

As far as I can tell the only people who FC are the ones that benefit from it: the freepies with all their armour, then it was to get to r8/r10 to get their so so needed epic weapons, now its for BFP? and so on.

edit: BFP is good tho for freepies, should've been brought in ages ago.

i know u want to but as said i will keep it secret, and yes they still playing in evernight ^^
damn i said to much now sry guys zS

Originally Posted by Hayley

Were Warheroden, Solvent and Lonapilind = 1 champ + 2 hunts .... LUMBRERAS!

Lonapilind isn't in Chaos. He's from my kin, and I doubt he was FCing - killing unknowingly possibly, but he got angry at another kin who even proposed FCing, which suggests to me that if this is an example of FCing, then he wasn't intentionally part of it.

Originally Posted by Hayley

Yep, on the past there was like 6 spots more or less where ppl were caught, but after a day like the one we had today I probably picked too quickly, so, please if anyone has the same trouble, let me know, btw, I'll check the pics deeper tomorrow, this game becomes sadly every day past... but don't want to mention people which just did nothing.
Imagine this evening... Flesh, Mixa, Doom, Rejit, Gootrek, War, Lonapillind, Solvent, Mich (I laugh a lot when Rodin spotted Mich cuz he attacked the reaver xd) and after showing all the ppl which were there, their shameless, when got tired and a low number of creeps just start a zerg... kinda funny...

When i kill a Ba that can't do anything back i'm not fcing...Farruquita

Originally Posted by Rapidash

i know u want to but as said i will keep it secret, and yes they still playing in evernight ^^
damn i said to much now sry guys zS

Any reason to keep it secret? I wonder though how some ppl rank so fast, watching the way they play.

Keep the screenshots/videos coming.

@Hayley: What an epic picture there. Want more!

@Torhowl: Mate, maybe you misunderstood me a little bit. I shall explain:
I strongly reject fc, to get an advancement in pvp.
But to say, people work everyday to "punish" fc'ers, by taking pics or vids isnt gonna solve anything. More then that it even can stimulate people to do it. And yet again I only see vids from thora about freeps who fc, where are the vids from creeps who fc ? Oeps.... my bad I said something naughty there, didnt I?
Let me continue.. If you guys wanna expell all who fc'd, then 50%, or even more has to go I quess. I have no facts to prove my thoughts/theory, but where is the counterdefence? Just saying....

And so devs are gonna release the battle promotion buff for freeps with U10. But no update to the timer as I can see? *Sarcasm on!*-> great! I would welcome back all freeps, I mean creeps.. uhmmm switchers to the freep front! Enjoy your stay till the next update! That's how great pvp is! Every update is yet another reason to just have a *no care* attitude and just quit with it! Works fine for me!

The idea of having battlefield promotions for freeps is (and please dont throw tomatoes at me) quite good.I dont like it of course haha,but the current state where minnies have no problems healing themselfs on the run is enough(or any other class like Lm's,cappies that actually know how to PLAY the class),but introducing this will be a "bellow the belt" hit for creeps :/.The only reason i like it is because all of the switchers that have populated creep side will go back (im hoping,who wouldnt want more morale :P ) and evernight's pvp might start to get some action again...

Originally Posted by Kroshnak

The idea of having battlefield promotions for freeps is (and please dont throw tomatoes at me) quite good.I dont like it of course haha,but the current state where minnies have no problems healing themselfs on the run is enough(or any other class like Lm's,cappies that actually know how to PLAY the class),but introducing this will be a "bellow the belt" hit for creeps :/.The only reason i like it is because all of the switchers that have populated creep side will go back (im hoping,who wouldnt want more morale :P ) and evernight's pvp might start to get some action again...

if it only was that easy mate, but i doubt that.
action will allways be the same

Originally Posted by Maf--

I would love to know 1 main creep player who has FC'd, freeps on their creeps and the epix kids that transfered to the greener pastures of snowy don't count :P

As far as I can tell the only people who FC are the ones that benefit from it: the freepies with all their armour, then it was to get to r8/r10 to get their so so needed epic weapons, now its for BFP? and so on.

edit: BFP is good tho for freepies, should've been brought in ages ago.

Who are these "epix kids" that are über FCers?

Tbh i think battlefield promotions for freeps is funny, atm creep are enought strong in group if work togheter.

Creep can decrease incoming heal to 75% ... increase damage with many class slow, and hit with arrow while running with warg :P

I can't belive a class become OP cause win 1 vs 1 ... atm mini still be an OP class cause can run and survive with 3 o 4 creep on him but ... only few mini are enought good to do that !!
Atm we can see rank 3/4 defiler run in the middle of a raid and some time survive !!!
Same for some spider ...

The group game atm is enought balanced and i think can become more better.

Originally Posted by Adingostolemybaby

This was an isolated incident and no gear is not at all costs or we would all be doing it. Its a shame you have twisted the sentiment of my post to one of a negative nature but there you go. If you see my apologising and reasoning the why's and how's as something negative I sugget that it has more to do with your personal outlook on things than what you actually read. I do not know you but as you judged my post as a negative I am guessing from your's that you probably argue with people a lot on here and have a bit of a chip on your shoulder no? Why would you insult someone who has openly taken responsibility for their actions and offered reasons and apologise................bitte r?

To make it easy for you....It was wrong, it wont happen again and I am apologising. The rest was to shed light on the situation not to feed you.

How many posts are there where people actually hold their hands up but you focus on the negative

I just want to say we just passed velyria again.

Velyria defeated Clonkburz. x XX and Clonkburz was revived the same amount of times. Just cause its hiding now, doesnt make it less wrong.

Won't happen again?

(Still there and 1 hour as passed)

Originally Posted by GloriousEagle

I just want to say we just passed velyria again.

Velyria defeated Clonkburz. x XX and Clonkburz was revived the same amount of times. Just cause its hiding now, doesnt make it less wrong.

Won't happen again?

(Still there and 1 hour as passed)

as promised i'll stop when i reach rank 8 and leave the moors for good. i have no intentions of fcing to advance in pvp.
if you have a problem with me doing it for the sake of pve advancement you might wanna ask the devs why they would put the best gear for certain classes in the moors to begin with. beyond wrong in my opinion but why would that matter? im a dirty fcer(like many others).

Originally Posted by Zalendrian

as promised i'll stop when i reach rank 8 and leave the moors for good. i have no intentions of fcing to advance in pvp.
if you have a problem with me doing it for the sake of pve advancement you might wanna ask the devs why they would put the best gear for certain classes in the moors to begin with. beyond wrong in my opinion but why would that matter? im a dirty fcer(like many others).

They placed this gear in the Moors to give people an incentive to come to the Ettenmoors and generate action (especially for freeps, as we certainly lack the numbers at the moment). These items should not be the reward for someone who isn't actually working for them. For instance, the best items in the game are generally from raids (or at least were pre-RoR), such as the Worn Symbol of the Elder King, Saruman's Clasp etc. To achieve a reasonably high-ish rank (7+) takes a level of perseverance and dedication which you would see in people attempting to beat the hardest content in the game.

FCing is as bad as grinding the dailies in Rohan for the new bracelets - this is not working for anything with any skill or perseverance (the way in which the best rewards should be granted in the game, and hopefully will be in u10), its just button-smashing. The problem of FCing is less easy to solve, however simply because the exploit is there, it doesn't mean that you should use it: FCing is wrong, enough said.

IMHO PVP should offer the same PVE rewards as you can obtain in PVE areas, just offer a different way of getting them. Lootboxes, Hytbold tokens even jewellry rares. Obviously rank having extra benefits within the PVP area itself makes sense. Thus, no-one is forced to PVP to obtain an item for PVE. But for this to work fight clubbing needs to be treated the same way as exploiting instances IE. like Stalin with a sore head.

Rather than screenshot vigilanties, it can't be beyond the wit of some programmer to flag up instances of low ranked characters being repeatedly killed by the same person (especially if they're not fighting back) for review by a human operator. A few people being publicly punished by stripping them of rank, gear, temporary ban as well as a "name and shame" policy will soon discourage others from trying.

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I've been out of PVP land since the BG symbol nerf meant you could get groups for other instances again - i've had a week off work, and spent most of it chasing shinies. It appears they were all cruel tricks with photoshop however, not a whole lot dropped for me.

Back in the Ettens again last night. Boring GV campfest. Creeps back up, we follow because if we sit there nothing will happen. Maybe kill one creep then we get wiped. Rinse and repeat. As a healer it's ok because you get comms for that one kill you had nothing to do with. I don't just stick hots on people and sit at the back, i run out to someone who's overextended and getting ganked, throw them a BC. Sometimes saves them, always kills me, but if you're one of these leeching healers you have to put something back into the community eh?

Then one of those dreaded FRAIDs forms up. These generally either scooting from place to place, ganking small groups of creeps then fleeing to avoid retaliation, or stopping to fight the creeps head on. We might get one or two of them at the edges of their raid, but they quickly kill our healing mini's and rk's one after another, then wipe the rest. Add in the combat rezzes and people riding back form the GY trying to save their raid (or idiots like me going on sacrificial rescue missions to people struggling back to GV on foot) and they must kill every freep twice over per wipe.

Since you're going to wipe us over and over can you please do the decent thing and do it near a convenient rez circle, as one of the first to be targeted and one of the first to die, i miss out on so much of the action, by the time i can ride back the group is 75% wiped anyway. I suppose from a military point of view you dont want to give your enemy's healers time to ride back in form the GY and you can wipe us more efficiently by doing us outside TR, but think if you did it'd just be more easy kills for you anyway. And i get to spend less time on a goddamned horse.

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I really don't know how freep light armour classes are supposed to survive focus fire from a creep raid. You can debuff my incoming healing by 75% you say? And stacked spider dots... it's just crazy. I got my audacity 4 now, but it doesn't reduce incoming damage that much, only CC time. It took a bit of work to get 13k morale and capped mits on my mini along with decent icpr.... now update 10 is going to give everyone high tac mit, high icpr, and bonuses to morale that will surpass mine thanks to their rank /sigh.

How about if target forwarding and assist we disabled in moors, that'd be a start. For balance, have heals overwrite instead of stacking. It's not realistic so many archers could target one person who is also under melee assault from 6 or 7 persons without freindly fire... and a bit of difficulty knowing if your shots are falling long or short. In fact it's pretty difficult for more than 2 people to attack one in melee even if they're out in the open. It just takes a certain amount of room to swing a sword.

Found Lhimlight & earthwarior clubbing again outside Grams, bless them both.

But fear not, they assured me Chaos is the "best kin on evernight" Ha!

Originally Posted by GloriousEagle

Won't happen again?

Hadn't spoken to Zal so didn't know he was slacking. Could have just send a tell, or is this a paparazzi type affair now? Sure if it keeps you entertained for an hour then no harm

tl;dr: FCers sakk, ban them. Balance still not here, nerf moar.

Originally Posted by Adingostolemybaby

Hadn't spoken to Zal so didn't know he was slacking. Could have just send a tell, or is this a paparazzi type affair now? Sure if it keeps you entertained for an hour then no harm

Politically correct and super diplomatic card failed so now its ironical funny card? sad really


Anyway, yes i have a problem with fcing for sake of pve advancement or any other reason. And even though it is of course something that i can't make others agree on, me (and many others) can still say what we think of it. And blatantly admitting that you are doing it doesn't make it any less wrong really. And my take on it is simple logic (much like the one used by FCers, even if mine is rational):

-In PvE there are raids and instances for good drops. PvErs spend time doing them to get those drops, it takes a while but thats because of %drop rates. So, players who PvE only or the most get those drops more than PvPers.
-PvP rewards are there to reward the players who spend even more time there and couldn't be PvEing as much as others were. Also, i agree with Tirian, they serve as a good motivation to PvP (hence all the fcing).

So, by pretty much skipping all the time that should be needed to get the ranks/comms for the gear you want, IMO you are in fact cheating the game. This if you haven't noticed you were cheating so far (apparently, a lot haven't)...

Therefore: In a fair game, either those who do it would be banned or stripped of all gains from it. I'm sure that, like Nemulas said, can't be that hard to see what was gained. If Turbine doesn't want to do it, just make % drop rates in PvEing 100% or near it. Because i too would like to spend some hours only to get all i wanted.

In conclusion... if you want to FC, good for you. Just remember that no matter how much logic you put into it: you are a cheater.

(for any conflicts of interest or to prevent the same old lame responses:
-- I am not a PvPer at all.
-- I too can't be here all day. Just been gone for a week and will be for another and that doesnt make me fc
-- If you can't get any ren at all than it's your own lack of skills fault and you should make the most of it to gain them in these difficult times.
-- I like Rodin
-- others i can't think of)

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Regarding the creeps' advantage, BFP + less crit defence ftw. IMO (the one of a PvP newb) balance is getting closer but one more slight nerf of the following would be nice:
- Le brand nerf? Just to make it always according to your rank, don't have to ban it.
- Le mits nerf? Are all creeps heavy armours lol?
- Le morale nerf? With so much HoTs, having over 20k morale is kind of ridiculous.
- Le defiler nerf? ...
- Le new incoming healing bost nerf? The boost was a bit over the edge.

*Throws coin in wishing well*

Originally Posted by Calengir

Found Lhimlight & earthwarior clubbing again outside Grams, bless them both.

But fear not, they assured me Chaos is the "best kin on Evernight" Ha!

so nice of you to make the time to write this thoughtful quote from last nights conversation, just to clarify i said one of the top three raiding kins and in the top three for downing on the server. as you guard is poorly geared i take it you dont undersand of good kins like ours. just to remind you the best ones to go for are assention, chaos, kowt and fearless, sean as your not that well geared and prolly a poor freep you may not get accepted

Originally Posted by Eragroth

so nice of you to make the time to write this thoughtful quote from last nights conversation, just to clarify i said one of the top three raiding kins and in the top three for downing on the server. as you guard is poorly geared i take it you dont undersand of good kins like ours. just to remind you the best ones to go for are assention, chaos, kowt and fearless, sean as your not that well geared and prolly a poor freep you may not get accepted

So nice of you to take the time to look through my characters, and only mention my 75 guard rather than my 85 hunter

And I think you mean one of the top raiding kins for downing freavers, in which case I completely agree.
The butthurt is strong with this one

Bradpitter bedroom......
http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/w.../screen001.jpg

Originally Posted by GloriousEagle

tl;dr: FCers sakk, ban them. Balance still not here, nerf moar.





Politically correct and super diplomatic card failed so now its ironical funny card? sad really


Anyway, yes i have a problem with fcing for sake of pve advancement or any other reason. And even though it is of course something that i can't make others agree on, me (and many others) can still say what we think of it. And blatantly admitting that you are doing it doesn't make it any less wrong really. And my take on it is simple logic (much like the one used by FCers, even if mine is rational):

-In PvE there are raids and instances for good drops. PvErs spend time doing them to get those drops, it takes a while but thats because of %drop rates. So, players who PvE only or the most get those drops more than PvPers.
-PvP rewards are there to reward the players who spend even more time there and couldn't be PvEing as much as others were. Also, i agree with Tirian, they serve as a good motivation to PvP (hence all the fcing).

So, by pretty much skipping all the time that should be needed to get the ranks/comms for the gear you want, IMO you are in fact cheating the game. This if you haven't noticed you were cheating so far (apparently, a lot haven't)...

Therefore: In a fair game, either those who do it would be banned or stripped of all gains from it. I'm sure that, like Nemulas said, can't be that hard to see what was gained. If Turbine doesn't want to do it, just make % drop rates in PvEing 100% or near it. Because i too would like to spend some hours only to get all i wanted.

In conclusion... if you want to FC, good for you. Just remember that no matter how much logic you put into it: you are a cheater.

(for any conflicts of interest or to prevent the same old lame responses:
-- I am not a PvPer at all.
-- I too can't be here all day. Just been gone for a week and will be for another and that doesnt make me fc
-- If you can't get any ren at all than it's your own lack of skills fault and you should make the most of it to gain them in these difficult times.
-- I like Rodin
-- others i can't think of)



*Throws coin in wishing well*

Right Elun, my problem was that you who I know and have grouped with plenty of times could have just sent a tell instead of trying to cause a scandal which was obviously your intention. So for the record I AM NOT A FC'ER and you should keep that in mind when accusing me of anything. I am not giving YOU, any response other than to be polite in saying that your post was in poor taste. So the 'super diplomatic' post as you put it was an apology to the people I know from creep and freep side and their friends not YOU and yes I do think the fact that you stayed there for an hour just to try and cause a scandal on here instead of maybe trying to sort it out ingame as I and many from your kin would have done is unsavoury to say the least but each to their own ofc.

No good ever comes from these Evernight Strikes Back threads so I thought I'd better interject before things get out of hand.

Zal shouldn't be FCing, Elun has raised this with kin leader, kin leader is dealing with it. I know from recent conversations with Arp that Valerian deals with in-kin discipline very strictly.

Either way, it's none of Fearless's business now it has been raised. Any more posting could result in undue negativity towards our kin.

Sorry, but "I want this item but I don't want to spend time getting it the proper way" is not a justification for FCing. Would PvP players exploiting raids to gear up be fine because they don't like PvE?

Originally Posted by Adingostolemybaby

Right Elun, my problem was that you who I know and have grouped with plenty of times could have just sent a tell instead of trying to cause a scandal which was obviously your intention. So for the record I AM NOT A FC'ER and you should keep that in mind when accusing me of anything. I am not giving YOU, any response other than to be polite in saying that your post was in poor taste. So the 'super diplomatic' post as you put it was an apology to the people I know from creep and freep side and their friends not YOU and yes I do think the fact that you stayed there for an hour just to try and cause a scandal on here instead of maybe trying to sort it out ingame as I and many from your kin would have done is unsavoury to say the least but each to their own ofc.

1- I did not call you a fcer did I? At least in no point in my post that is shown and I have no reason to think you are one. The person i called an FCer to is clearly stated... no?
2- I did not spend an hour looking at him.... I was in a fellowship and we went past the same spot twice that afternoon (with an hour inbetween)..
3- People actually talked in OOC about it, he never said anything. And my problem was with who was doing it, not you, so i wouldn't send a tell to you about him, he should talk for himself (at least thats my take on this) - in fact, i shouldn't have quoted you but it was where it was said he wouldnt do it again.
4- Your remark was also of poor taste, which is why i answered in the same way. (with only 1 phrase). The rest of the post was in response to the thread in its whole really.
5- What Tarenius said.

See you in-game then, and this was just to clarify my earlier post which cause it looks like you were blinded by rage or something when you read it. (my last for now as well)

Originally Posted by Adingostolemybaby

This was an isolated incident...and no gear is not at all costs...To make it easy for you....It was wrong, it wont happen again and I am apologising.

Originally Posted by GloriousEagle

I just want to say we just passed velyria again.

Velyria defeated Clonkburz. x XX and Clonkburz was revived the same amount of times. Just cause its hiding now, doesnt make it less wrong.

Won't happen again?

Obviously it was not an isoloated incident...gear is at all costs for your kin...obviously this player in your kin does not think it is wrong...it has happened again and the player says he will continue to do it and not apologise for it...

Originally Posted by Zalendrian

as promised i'll stop when i reach rank 8 and leave the moors for good. i have no intentions of fcing to advance in pvp.
if you have a problem with me doing it for the sake of pve advancement you might wanna ask the devs why they would put the best gear for certain classes in the moors to begin with. beyond wrong in my opinion but why would that matter? im a dirty fcer(like many others).

Well, at least you will write something intelligent, witty or clever in response to your kin member who obviously does not value your leadership for the kin at all nor the respect you wanted to build for it.

After all, your kin member has publicly made a fool out of you by carrying out exactly the same behaviour you said was an isolated incident, was wrong, that it would not happen again and you apologised to the community for.

So, let's read your response to a kin member making your orignal statement either a lie, hypocrisy, or proof you have no respect of or control over your kin. Drum rolllllllll

Originally Posted by Adingostolemybaby

Right Elun, my problem was that you who I know and have grouped with plenty of times could have just sent a tell instead of trying to cause a scandal which was obviously your intention.

Ah, after trying to make a joke out of it all we now see you want it hidden and sent in a tell, not made open knowledge.

Originally Posted by Adingostolemybaby

post was in poor taste.

No, his post was spot on. You want the behaviour hidden, he brought it into the open. Plus rep GloriousEagle.

Originally Posted by Nakah

Obviously it was not an isoloated incident...gear is at all costs for your kin...obviously this player in your kin does not think it is wrong...it has happened again and the player says he will continue to do it and not apologise for it...



Well, at least you will write something intelligent, witty or clever in response to your kin member who obviously does not value your leadership for the kin at all nor the respect you wanted to build for it.

After all, your kin member has publicly made a fool out of you by carrying out exactly the same behaviour you said was an isolated incident, was wrong, that it would not happen again and you apologised to the community for.

So, let's read your response to a kin member making your orignal statement either a lie, hypocrisy, or proof you have no respect of or control over your kin. Drum rolllllllll



Ah, after trying to make a joke out of it all we now see you want it hidden and sent in a tell, not made open knowledge.



No, his post was spot on. You want the behaviour hidden, he brought it into the open. Plus rep GloriousEagle.

Velyria/Zalendrian/Valerian - the names are rather similar, don't you think? Who else thinks that Valerian could be both people, using two forum accounts...? And as much as it feels weird to say it, I agree with you Nakah.

For the free flamings against people:

1. While participating on the Community Sites, you must respect the rights of others to participate in the community. To this end you may not harass, defraud, threaten or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other members or Turbine staff. This includes, but is not limited to:

• Name-calling or other insults
• Posting or commenting with the intent of provoking ("trolling") another user or users
• Flaming another user for their spelling or grammar
• Bringing disagreements with someone into unrelated threads or blog posts/comments
• Creating a thread, post, or comment on any of the Community Sites that calls out another player(s) for their actions in the game

Feel free to read the next 20 points.

Valerian, you don't need to explain anything, just play and keep leading as you've been, sometimes envy is strong around

Ending with my brother's classic:

Nakah...as I said, it has stopped so enough and ty for the comments all noted.

Tirian...no machiavellian plot here we are different people trust me.

Elun...I expected more from you thats all. The person who you were with had the decency to talk to me today you could have done the same.

Anyway good luck, really enamouring people to pvp with all this.

guys guys stop fighting ffs this is just a game zS
anyway the game fails hard thx to all the &&&&&& update turbine brought us, we should all look forward to elders scrolls online.

Its quite sad to see people still arguing with Nakah lol, and game has gotten nowhere... well gl with it all

Myself I enjoy the pvp much more in Gw2

Originally Posted by Rapidash

guys guys stop fighting ffs this is just a game zS
anyway the game fails hard thx to all the &&&&&& update turbine brought us, we should all look forward to elders scrolls online.

+1

I signed for beta o_O

I know a lot of players don't like spar sessions but omg when was the last evernight creep/freep get together ?

A Good few times now i logged to ask for spars during a 2hr gv camp with very little response ,i get the odd tell from the odd regulars and that's it ,any reason why so many players hate spars ? even when the action is so rubbish i.e gv to tr ping pong .

Creeps can hold there own in 1v1 situation make the most of it ,win some lose some just enjoy

Really appalling to see a rise in FC'ing and that it's so easily spotted as well.

It's a real spit in the face to people such as myself who aren't the best at the game and choose to undertake the massive uphill struggle that is the Ettens.

Originally Posted by Zaddoc

Really appalling to see a rise in FC'ing and that it's so easily spotted as well.

It's a real spit in the face to people such as myself who aren't the best at the game and choose to undertake the massive uphill struggle that is the Ettens.

Zaddoc m8, your by far not the worst champ I have come across, so give yourself some credit. At least your not one of the many bubble and run champs that seems to be so popular here. I am glad there are freeps that are also upset about the FC festival that is Evernight but sadly a)there is still allot that don't care b) those that do it dont give a ** about the rest of the server c) Turbine turns a blind eye. With BFP coming in U10 I suspect things are going to get worse.

See you on the battlefield and +1 rep for post

Thx for spars tonight....nice turn out beats that gv to tr ping pong for me anyway

Originally Posted by minnimeepouch

Thx for spars tonight....nice turn out beats that gv to tr ping pong for me anyway

As Pouch said, thank you so much mates, really fun spars specially against insector, lozog and benny. I really enjoyed sparing with you guys. Hope we can repeat this again soon

Originally Posted by Hayley

Yep, on the past there was like 6 spots more or less where ppl were caught, but after a day like the one we had today I probably picked too quickly, so, please if anyone has the same trouble, let me know, btw, I'll check the pics deeper tomorrow, this game becomes sadly every day past... but don't want to mention people which just did nothing.
Imagine this evening... Flesh, Mixa, Doom, Rejit, Gootrek, War, Lonapillind, Solvent, Mich (I laugh a lot when Rodin spotted Mich cuz he attacked the reaver xd) and after showing all the ppl which were there, their shameless, when got tired and a low number of creeps just start a zerg... kinda funny...

Well, some of my ingame friends told me about this shameless slander that is going on in which my name is mentioned. I usually dont "do" forums, and try to avoid it. Well, here is my 5 cents on this "fightclub" situation that is going on.

First of all, "Fightclubing" was here from the begining. The difference between now and than is that "babies" wouldn't give you allmost any reputation, so FC-ing was both useless, shamefiull, disrespectfull, as well was killing the "youngs", for we wanted to promote Ettens and have as many players enjoing the experience, not to get bored and making them feel useless, and turn away from it before it began. That said, it was shamefull and disrespectfull to harras people doing dailies on both sides. Of course, there were allways few burglairs or wargs hiding in some bushes, but they were usually dealt pretty fast. But ganking on people doing dailies - that was sad and shamefull thing.

Now, I respect the change I see now. Creeps are overpowered, outnumbering freeps, gangbanging whole raids if they ever try to put up a fight, as mentioned in previous posts, it end up sad and useless. People trying to do dailies get sloughtered, and most of the times the Creep side don't have even enough decency to give us TR and graveyard, but hunted us back to Glan Vraig. Sad, sad days.

And not that this shameless behaviour is not enough, but we also have continual ganking of those who try dueling. Getting the easy kill is, it seems, all what it is about in ettens. Allright, I respect the change, I might not like it, but one must to adapt.

Now, I am "one Character player". I have Lona whom I like, and allways took pride in my skills and deeds, nomatter how this might sound "huntardish" to someone. All my other chars are "slaves" to Lona's needs, and craft for him what he needs.

That said, I swear to you all Creeps out there, except for Lozog whom I find most noble of unfamiliar names to me, for I havent played this game for a year or so, and few old Creep names whom I remember for their player skills or even when they were babies, and I swear by my 10500 kills that got me to my rank 7, that were made when it actually meant something, you are all fair game to me. I don't care if you are few in numbers, if you are low in rank, if you are an army, I'll do my evry best to stop you, kill you, gain any advantage I can aggainst you, for you are not to be respected. Once there were honour in PvP, now it is all about raging hormons that should actually be dealt in some other way.

Now, back to the quote. Yes, we were there, on that riverbank, witnesing the rediculus situation, and that reaver died over and over, trying to get free renown. We were standing by, trying to stop that. and than you and your horde came along, and whiped the majority of us out. Did you try to stop what was going on? Oh, wait, no? You went for easy kill of someone in lvl 75 armor, with no more than 7k hp, right? Wait, does that comes into category of FCing for you? It is shameless, that's what it is. And you dare to lecture soemone now? To slender someone's good name in public like this?

Never the less, inspite of all creep try to stop us we made than night map blue, and took our "goodies" back to our keep for saveing. If the night is the only time we actually can do any dailies, so be it.

At the end, to all those freeps who had time to read my five cent about this, I wish you good hunting, steady arm, and clear eyesight. And to all those creeps that are maliciously enjoing this stupid change where 12 people cannot kill a group of 4 (defiler, warleader, reaver and warg) cose of all those 5 min cooldown imunities that you can get as freep as rank12 or higher, enjoy it while it lasts. Eventually it will change aggain, and bring more balance to the game. Or it will make ettens empty aggain.

Over and out

Originally Posted by Lonapilind

Well, some of my ingame friends told me about this shameless slander that is going on in which my name is mentioned. I usually dont "do" forums, and try to avoid it. Well, here is my 5 cents on this "fightclub" situation that is going on.

First of all, "Fightclubing" was here from the begining. The difference between now and than is that "babies" wouldn't give you allmost any reputation, so FC-ing was both useless, shamefiull, disrespectfull, as well was killing the "youngs", for we wanted to promote Ettens and have as many players enjoing the experience, not to get bored and making them feel useless, and turn away from it before it began. That said, it was shamefull and disrespectfull to harras people doing dailies on both sides. Of course, there were allways few burglairs or wargs hiding in some bushes, but they were usually dealt pretty fast. But ganking on people doing dailies - that was sad and shamefull thing.

Now, I respect the change I see now. Creeps are overpowered, outnumbering freeps, gangbanging whole raids if they ever try to put up a fight, as mentioned in previous posts, it end up sad and useless. People trying to do dailies get sloughtered, and most of the times the Creep side don't have even enough decency to give us TR and graveyard, but hunted us back to Glan Vraig. Sad, sad days.

And not that this shameless behaviour is not enough, but we also have continual ganking of those who try dueling. Getting the easy kill is, it seems, all what it is about in ettens. Allright, I respect the change, I might not like it, but one must to adapt.

Now, I am "one Character player". I have Lona whom I like, and allways took pride in my skills and deeds, nomatter how this might sound "huntardish" to someone. All my other chars are "slaves" to Lona's needs, and craft for him what he needs.

That said, I swear to you all Creeps out there, except for Lozog whom I find most noble of unfamiliar names to me, for I havent played this game for a year or so, and few old Creep names whom I remember for their player skills or even when they were babies, and I swear by my 10500 kills that were made when it actually meant something, you are all fair game to me. I don't care if you are few in numbers, if you are low in rank, if you are an army, I'll do my evry best to stop you, kill you, gain any advantage I can aggainst you, for you are not to be respected. Once there were honour in PvP, now it is all about raging hormons that should actually be dealt in some other way.

Now, back to the quote. Yes, we were there, on that riverbank, witnesing the rediculus situation, and that reaver died over and over, trying to get free renown. We were standing by, trying to stop that. and than you and your horde came along, and whiped the majority of us out. Did you try to stop what was going on? Oh, wait, no? You went for easy kill of someone in lvl 75 armor, with no more than 7k hp, right? Wait, does that comes into category of FCing for you? It is shameless, that's what it is. And you dare to lecture soemone now? To slender someone's good name in public like this?

Never the less, inspite of all creep try to stop us we made than night map blue, and took our "goodies" back to our keep for saveing. If the night is the only time we actually can do any dailies, so be it.

At the end, to all those freeps who had time to read my five cent about this, I wish you good hunting, steady arm, and clear eyesight. And to all those creeps that are maliciously enjoing this stupid change where 12 people cannot kill a group of 4 (defiler, warleader, reaver and warg) cose of all those 5 min cooldown imunities that you can get as freep as rank12 or higher, enjoy it while it lasts. Eventually it will change aggain, and bring more balance to the game. Or it will make ettens empty aggain.

Over and out

Blah Blah Blah another Freep whine. The whine will only stop when u guys are OP godmode once more and zerging the creeps off the map with very little effort. Until then give the crying and whine a rest for goodness sake. We get it, deal with it until the tables turn in your favour once again. Zeesh, will the whining and crying from the Freep side never stop until then?