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Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL

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Ok, I'll get on my spider and orc and see if I can get in...who stole mah thread? Soul sux! Wait, everyone gonna see this...meh, you tricked meh!

Ok, my spider did get in, but to be fair, you never mentioned that before...you said orcs and wargs... Wargs can get in but they can't attack, they could target, I could target, but skills did not work. I see the spider also could not only target but attack...so, we supposed to get a group of spiders out now lol?

Also, I wish I had Fraps, but I could only SS my "orc"; no matter how hard I tried, I could not get in, maybe there's a trick...? Yet, the whole point was to say, to be honest and fair, that a group vs group fight that could have been fun and good, was ruined and they knew we could not fight them in there and all we'd end up doing was agroing tons of wolves...yeah, that's fun! IMHO, again, that was just weaksauce, bad form; agree or disagree, meh...not worried.

As for it not being an exploit - What it is, is a break in the ToS (Terms of Service), which refer to the Code of Conduct - http://www.lotro.com/support/1033-coc

4. While playing the Game or participating in related services, you may not exhibit or partake in behavior that is disruptive to the Game’s normal playability, causes grief or alarm to other players, or degrades the service performance or other players’ client software (for example, deliberately using game bugs or loopholes to disrupt the game or dropping excessive items).

17. You will not exploit, distribute or publicly communicate any Game error, miscue or bug which gives an unintended advantage within the Game world. You may report bugs at lotrobugs@turbine.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

If everyone cannot do it, it's an exploit, and if used as such, it's breaking the ToS and the EULA...does Turbine do anyting about it, we'll see...Freeps can still get on bridge pillars while Creeps cannot...

Originally Posted by Skydawg

As for it not being an exploit - What it is, is a break in the ToS (Terms of Service), which refer to the Code of Conduct - http://www.lotro.com/support/1033-coc

4. While playing the Game or participating in related services, you may not exhibit or partake in behavior that is disruptive to the Game’s normal playability, causes grief or alarm to other players, or degrades the service performance or other players’ client software (for example, deliberately using game bugs or loopholes to disrupt the game or dropping excessive items).

17. You will not exploit, distribute or publicly communicate any Game error, miscue or bug which gives an unintended advantage within the Game world. You may report bugs at lotrobugs@turbine.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

If everyone cannot do it, it's an exploit, and if used as such, it's breaking the ToS and the EULA...does Turbine do anyting about it, we'll see...Freeps can still get on bridge pillars while Creeps cannot...

My personal opinion is that it isnt against the COC just my opinion because of my next example



Read 17[b] then doesnt that apply to many things

Example A. Defilers being able to heal without agro do to bug"You will not exploit, distribute or publicly communicate any Game error, miscue or BUG which gives an unintended advantage within the Game world" the word bug i put in capitals doesnt that give a unintended advantage? It does but i also dont think its against the COC


Now i think there is grays areas and there is COC being broken and i personally think its a gray area.


Pillars have been fixed ive tried and they put a little more distance between the leap.

Went out to check it out on Orc and seen.........


Stalkerrs(warg) inside the back corner

Thrugbul(defiler) got in too

Plus if you can get in that corner you can attack like my pics above show

Soooo that cave just doesnt like Ugly Uruk maybe if you put Cheetos on the rock entrance it will open wider.

Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL

My personal opinion is that it isnt against the COC just my opinion because of my next example



Read 17[b] then doesnt that apply to many things

Example A. Defilers being able to heal without agro do to bug"You will not exploit, distribute or publicly communicate any Game error, miscue or BUG which gives an unintended advantage within the Game world" the word bug i put in capitals doesnt that give a unintended advantage? It does but i also dont think its against the COC


Now i think there is grays areas and there is COC being broken and i personally think its a gray area.


Pillars have been fixed ive tried and they put a little more distance between the leap.

You can't compare apples to oranges...the defiler bug, which btw, I have yet to see...all that I have grouped with have gotten big time agro from healing...is a bug that can't be avoided, they have to heal or do you just expect us to come out with no healers and die...well, a lot of freeps do lol. This is not "exploited", used intentionally to change the game, not like going into a cave where not everyone can get in and fight, on purpose...but, we'll let Turbine decide, and we'll have to agree to disagree. Pillars was an example, but it's nice to know they finally fixed it.

I don't disagree, the warg did get in but couldn't find that "secret" place to attack and hit from. If you fill the cave with freeps, there's no room to move, hence you can't get in that "attack corner", I already agreed with the spider thing. But, most people would agree, I would think...ESPECIALLY if Creeps did this, you'd be all over us, but because it's freeps and a kinmate even.../shrug...if we all can't do it, then no one should, period.

But, back to the main point...it was a fail group that wouldn't fight an even fight...and they knew not everyone could get in and fight...and Thrug wasn't in my group, so I didn't know he got in, maybe he can show me how. Now, throw those cheetos in and this ugly Uruk will try harder to get in!!!

Actually, after thinking more on it, it IS an exploit, period. Let's read #4 again...

4. While playing the Game or participating in related services, you may not exhibit or partake in behavior that is disruptive to the Game’s normal playability, causes grief or alarm to other players, or degrades the service performance or other players’ client software (for example, deliberately using game bugs or loopholes to disrupt the game or dropping excessive items).


Am I not an "other player", was not Skully and Grimsniper, I think this to be true ... ALL Uruks cannot fit in that hole nor can they fight...so yes, it was disruptive to the Game's NORMAL playability and it caused GRIEF to other players. No matter how you try to rationalize it out, it's an exploit, period and it cannot be argued, as per the CoC.

Originally Posted by Skydawg

Actually, after thinking more on it, it IS an exploit, period. Let's read #4 again...

4. While playing the Game or participating in related services, you may not exhibit or partake in behavior that is disruptive to the Game’s normal playability, causes grief or alarm to other players, or degrades the service performance or other players’ client software (for example, deliberately using game bugs or loopholes to disrupt the game or dropping excessive items).


Am I not an "other player", was not Skully and Grimsniper, I think this to be true ... ALL Uruks cannot fit in that hole nor can they fight...so yes, it was disruptive to the Game's NORMAL playability and it caused GRIEF to other players. No matter how you try to rationalize it out, it's an exploit, period and it cannot be argued, as per the CoC.

Well we can still go back and forth arguing about the Defilers can run into EC and hot the creeps ive watched it done and they dont get agro and the rest of the creeps kill freeps now if the minny did this they would get the agro, oh btw this is a known problem and turbine is working on it.

Secondly the flag room in a keep is a terrain issue also if you look at it from the stand point of not all creep nor freeps can hit who's up there if they dont have range, yes you may think this is a stretch but it comes back to the same thing not all pvpers can attack them


BTW you say creeps dont use terrain or objects to avoid a fight or death??? Rez circle one/one shots(Both sides do it)

Example A i remember this fight it was Cheerleader and a warg vs Me and Gil and after i died the WL ran to the rez circle to avoid the fight, Do i call it cheap? Yes but thats it and nothing more.



Lastly theres no such thing as room in a cave since you can stack people on top of each other and yes besides my spider warg/orcs can attack people in the corner.


If you seriously think its a bug send in a bug report because its been like that since the game came out and nothing has changed.


I like Cheetos with a bologna sandwich

AZ LEARN YOU GRAMMAR AND READ THE CoC




PEACE and a SUDDEN POUNCE
mauk


edit: i know it is for souls eyes only but.... WHO CARES

Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL

Well we can still go back and forth arguing about the Defilers can run into EC and hot the creeps ive watched it done and they dont get agro and the rest of the creeps kill freeps now if the minny did this they would get the agro, oh btw this is a known problem and turbine is working on it.

Secondly the flag room in a keep is a terrain issue also if you look at it from the stand point of not all creep nor freeps can hit who's up there if they dont have range, yes you may think this is a stretch but it comes back to the same thing not all pvpers can attack them


BTW you say creeps dont use terrain or objects to avoid a fight or death??? Rez circle one/one shots(Both sides do it)

Example A i remember this fight it was Cheerleader and a warg vs Me and Gil and after i died the WL ran to the rez circle to avoid the fight, Do i call it cheap? Yes but thats it and nothing more.



Lastly theres no such thing as room in a cave since you can stack people on top of each other and yes besides my spider warg/orcs can attack people in the corner.


If you seriously think its a bug send in a bug report because its been like that since the game came out and nothing has changed.


I like Cheetos with a bologna sandwich

No, we can't go in circles lol, healers have to heal, it's simple (apples and oranges). Turbine knowing about it, it's down to them to fix it.

Flag room terrain? LOL, you're really trying arent you hehe...this isn't even worth arguing rofl.

Umm, why are you bringing up the rez circle, I didn't (here)...I do think it's cheap if you do it to avoid a KB, but ppl have their reasons and it's not an expolit, it is what it is.

I know, you can stack pixels upon pixels...wait, ever try to run through a rock or a tree...hehe. Yeah, you can make it very hard to find that one "special" spot where you are able to attack from (creep), we tried it out. It may have been like that for 5 years, but I have never seen anyone use it, and yes, I have been in the moors for over 4 of those 5 years, either freep or creep. But the point, again, it was a fail group that wouldn't fight an even fight (at that it was even numbers...truth be told freeps out gun and out heal us, why are they hiding?), and it's been reported, so like I said, we'll let Turbine sort it out.

I like cheetos with ham and cheese sammiches!!!

Originally Posted by Skydawg

No, we can't go in circles lol, healers have to heal, it's simple (apples and oranges). Turbine knowing about it, it's down to them to fix it.

Flag room terrain? LOL, you're really trying arent you hehe...this isn't even worth arguing rofl.

Umm, why are you bringing up the rez circle, I didn't (here)...I do think it's cheap if you do it to avoid a KB, but ppl have their reasons and it's not an expolit, it is what it is.

I know, you can stack pixels upon pixels...wait, ever try to run through a rock or a tree...hehe. Yeah, you can make it very hard to find that one "special" spot where you are able to attack from (creep), we tried it out. It may have been like that for 5 years, but I have never seen anyone use it, and yes, I have been in the moors for over 4 of those 5 years, either freep or creep. But the point, again, it was a fail group that wouldn't fight an even fight (at that it was even numbers...truth be told freeps out gun and out heal us, why are they hiding?), and it's been reported, so like I said, we'll let Turbine sort it out.

I like cheetos with ham and cheese sammiches!!!

I know this isnt about the thread but has something to do with the topic sooooooo


When we pushed into TR Yesterday why did the creeps hide in the keep with even numbers ? As a matter of fact you guys with wargs on track had more, so explain to me why yourself and your group did this along with the other creeps.

Now i normally dont bring it up because it is what it is but that was your entire point of the rock and equal numbers and them not fighting.




BTW i took my warg in also and could attack the line of sight spot



MMMMmmmm Ham and Cheese grilled......

Originally Posted by jailwartho

AZ LEARN YOU GRAMMAR AND READ THE CoC




PEACE and a SUDDEN POUNCE
mauk


edit: i know it is for souls eyes only but.... WHO CARES

Hello Newbie

Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL

Lastly theres no such thing as room in a cave since you can stack people on top of each other and yes besides my spider warg/orcs can attack people in the corner.

i would like to see your orc attack someone in there seriously... i must learn your skills

Originally Posted by crazybob24

i would like to see your orc attack someone in there seriously... i must learn your skills

Just because you're close minded doesnt mean you cant and FYI it was Starkums orc who got in there

its not that im close minded its that i have tried and i can't -_-

Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL

I know this isnt about the thread but has something to do with the topic sooooooo


When we pushed into TR Yesterday why did the creeps hide in the keep with even numbers ? As a matter of fact you guys with wargs on track had more, so explain to me why yourself and your group did this along with the other creeps.

Now i normally dont bring it up because it is what it is but that was your entire point of the rock and equal numbers and them not fighting.




BTW i took my warg in also and could attack the line of sight spot



MMMMmmmm Ham and Cheese grilled......

Even numbers...even with a few wargs here and there, does not equal a equal fight...if that makes sense. You know as well as I that freeps out gun and out heal...especially when there is a mini brigade, and yes, I counted 5 who kept charging. I admit to keep hugging, it's those who don't and do that anger me. Like I said in my previous posts, we were even numbered but out healed and out gunned, yet they STILL hid...why? Answer that riddle, because I'm confused.

Yes, again, there is one spot that a creep, any one that can fit in there, and there is a trick Tharg to gettingin there as an orc, it's hard, but you can...but getting into that one (literally) spot which gives you line of sight is near impossible, especially if you don't know where it is.

Beatin' a dead horse tho here...I'm not changing my mind because it's black and white. Every creep I've talked to agrees it's an exploit because not everyone (Uruks) can get in and it ruins the normal state of game play, as per the CoC, plain and simple. No grey area, it is what it is.

Hmm, grilled cheese and ham...mmm yum! But ya gotta have those ChEeToS!

Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL

Hello Newbie

ME=NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOB


peace mauk

./`./` For Soul's eyes only '\.'\.

sounds like a James bond theme to me. (which half fits with he thread. )

cheetos on a sandwich??!!!!!!! AWESOME idea. will try it immediately!

and guys/girls.. the proper term is closed-minded. not close. (shut as opposed to nearby)
at least spar with the right words. lol

Originally Posted by Pdt_the_Confused

./`./` For Soul's eyes only '\.'\.

sounds like a James bond theme to me. (which half fits with he thread. )

Now I have that silly theme song in mah head!!!! Ahhhh!!! Thnx!!!

Originally Posted by Pdt_the_Confused

./`./` For Soul's eyes only '\.'\.

sounds like a James bond theme to me. (which half fits with he thread. )

cheetos on a sandwich??!!!!!!! AWESOME idea. will try it immediately!

and guys/girls.. the proper term is closed-minded. not close. (shut as opposed to nearby)
at least spar with the right words. lol

Im going to make sure the door is CLOSED tight when your 8 legs enter

Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL

Im going to make sure the door is CLOSED tight when your 8 legs enter

Hmm, what will happen later? ...


LOL

[QUOTE=LEGENDofALL;6194559]Example A i remember this fight it was Cheerleader and a warg vs Me and Gil and after i died the WL ran to the rez circle to avoid the fight, Do i call it cheap? Yes but thats it and nothing more.


Which fight was this? Who was the warg? I don't remember this fight, not saying it didn't happen. Probably did but why would you put my name in this when the thread was about the cave? I have played this game since the beginning with you and have never said anything bad about you even if I thought you did something worth mentioning. I think your a great player and can't understand why you would mention me specifically, not the warg and not the vast majority of creeps and freeps that have done this.

Was it just you and Gil? Were there other Freeps near the area? I ask because I can't remember running to the one shots after you died.

Originally Posted by Mikanion

Hmm, what will happen later? ...


LOL

OMG...ewwww...ROFL!!!

Originally Posted by Mikanion

Hmm, what will happen later? ...


LOL

Hmm... the question that popped in my mind... do spiders taste like chicken??? (The ants won't answer.... )

Originally Posted by Mikanion

Hmm, what will happen later? ...


LOL

This is going to give me nightmares!

hmm, a giant spider legs, exoskeleton... possibly chicken in a crab shell? If it doesn't come out all goo.

[QUOTE=salo;6200207]

Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL

Example A i remember this fight it was Cheerleader and a warg vs Me and Gil and after i died the WL ran to the rez circle to avoid the fight, Do i call it cheap? Yes but thats it and nothing more.


Which fight was this? Who was the warg? I don't remember this fight, not saying it didn't happen. Probably did but why would you put my name in this when the thread was about the cave? I have played this game since the beginning with you and have never said anything bad about you even if I thought you did something worth mentioning. I think your a great player and can't understand why you would mention me specifically, not the warg and not the vast majority of creeps and freeps that have done this.

Was it just you and Gil? Were there other Freeps near the area? I ask because I can't remember running to the one shots after you died.

We were talking about cheap moves like the cave and people not wanting to die etc..... and i brought that time up which if you remember correctly me and Gil jumped out of Lugz and tried to get away from the zerg but you kept getting your shout slow on me plus the warg slow and after i died you went straight into the one shots and the warg died from Gil(New warg #63996)

Now i wasnt calling you out to call you out but i was giving an example and it came to me from the other day so i went with it.


Nothing personal stop taking the game sooooooooo serious

[QUOTE=LEGENDofALL;6201500]

Originally Posted by salo

....... and the warg died from Gil(New warg #63996)

Hey, I could have been that New warg #63996 ... but I was prolly eatin' ChEeToZ with a grilled ham and cheeeeez!

[QUOTE=Skydawg;6202016]

Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL

Hey, I could have been that New warg #63996 ... but I was prolly eatin' ChEeToZ with a grilled ham and cheeeeez!

It wasnt you and honestly i dont see you as the warg type plus wargs dont get heals from WL's

[QUOTE=LEGENDofALL;6202775]

Originally Posted by Skydawg

It wasnt you and honestly i dont see you as the warg type plus wargs dont get heals from WL's

I duoed my little r6 warg with an r7 WL and we beat a mini and a guard two or three times...never say never. Although you're right, I don't like my warg as much as da BA.

[QUOTE=Skydawg;6202016]

Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL

Hey, I could have been that New warg #63996 ... but I was prolly eatin' ChEeToZ with a grilled ham and cheeeeez!

Hey I remember this cave, I died in it, i even left a grave stone there reminding me, Warning Use With Extreme Caution. As far as Jumping out of keeps etc. Elmo when dont we do that XD, i forget about fights faster then anyone in my vent does Q.Q anyways it is what it is. Come on Soul Gotta Be COnsistent with the Sweet Spot :P. Just kidding I Love you SHOOT ME AGAIn!!!

[QUOTE=Lord_Cryptic;6207037]

Originally Posted by Skydawg

Hey I remember this cave, I died in it, i even left a grave stone there reminding me, Warning Use With Extreme Caution. As far as Jumping out of keeps etc. Elmo when dont we do that XD, i forget about fights faster then anyone in my vent does Q.Q anyways it is what it is. Come on Soul Gotta Be COnsistent with the Sweet Spot :P. Just kidding I Love you SHOOT ME AGAIn!!!

This one time, at Orc Camp...

Avast ye maties, put that thar shield away!

Where ya been?

[QUOTE=Skydawg;6207119]

Originally Posted by Lord_Cryptic

This one time, at Orc Camp...

Avast ye maties, put that thar shield away!

Where ya been?

I hit my rank took a lil break from pvp and lvln you guessed it another warden and now that warden is 75 and guess what... yup thats right im leveling another warden. For the pve side of things but ill be out there real soon im having withdrawls from not fighting creeps. Its beautiful really, but its my addiction and my drug..