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    Question Why isn't a warden allowed to contribute to ranged conjuctions?

    Sorry, wasn't sure if this should go in suggestions or here, but I thought it might do better here. I was doing some non-solo stuff the other night and a fellowship maneuver started, and I was shocked to find out that the Warden cannot contribute ranged damage to the maneuver even when in Assailment. This seems strange to me. It seems doubly so when Assailment requires a character to be a certain distance from the enemy to even do his/her gambits and then has to run up to the creature in order to contribute to a fellowship maneuver. Just wondering...

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    Re: Why isn't a warden allowed to contribute to ranged conjuctions?

    An oversight that wasn't fixed before Update 6 came out. Really hoping that it gets fixed as otherwise we are stuck to blue/green and asking the fellowship for straights/unusual FM's.

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    Re: Why isn't a warden allowed to contribute to ranged conjuctions?

    I never thought about that. Obviously the Fellowship Maneuver System has been around alot longer then Assailment. I am guessing it is harder then we think it is for them to allow a character to perform both sets of contributions at different times.

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    Re: Why isn't a warden allowed to contribute to ranged conjuctions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elrendos View Post
    I never thought about that. Obviously the Fellowship Maneuver System has been around alot longer then Assailment. I am guessing it is harder then we think it is for them to allow a character to perform both sets of contributions at different times.
    We have to be in melee range to contribute and Assailment has a minimum range of 10m. Removing Assailment's minumum range could work but it would still be clunky as one of our best positions with Conviction's -99% threat is close to the healer and hunters about 20-30m away. Trying to contribute to both roles is running a marathon; Eru help you if you have a position in a straight!

    The interim solution seems to be increasing the maximum contribution range for us to 15-25m which would help us be able to contribute to both our duty to complete an FM and our hunter-buddy role.

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    Re: Why isn't a warden allowed to contribute to ranged conjuctions?

    Quote Originally Posted by WhimsicalPacifist View Post
    We have to be in melee range to contribute and Assailment has a minimum range of 10m. Removing Assailment's minumum range could work but it would still be clunky as one of our best positions with Conviction's -99% threat is close to the healer and hunters about 20-30m away. Trying to contribute to both roles is running a marathon; Eru help you if you have a position in a straight!

    The interim solution seems to be increasing the maximum contribution range for us to 15-25m which would help us be able to contribute to both our duty to complete an FM and our hunter-buddy role.
    minimum range for Assailment is 5m and that's only for Fi-Sh or Sh-* gambits.

    The CJ contribution wheel is not affected by any of this. Warden is a melee class and as such only has the melee versions (There is Melee, Ranged and Tactical contribution for each colour as indicated by the symbols on the button). I suggested in another thread that Wardens should get the Ranged contribution options when in Assailment but as I postulated there I doubt that the CJ wheel code is currently affected by stance. I imagine rewriting some of that code-base is what is taking them a while to allow Wardens to contribute from range.

    oh and when it does happen (which I really think / hope it does) expect some odd behavior for the first patch or two

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    Re: Why isn't a warden allowed to contribute to ranged conjuctions?

    Why not just switch wardens to the ranged wheel like hunters? I was under the impression that ranged conjunctions worked at melee AND range...

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