When i made my post there was 42 freeps and an entire blue map. Stop moaning? you are the biggest hypocrite sq....
I spent all night in the raid, Peli, over 2k inf for myself, I didnt see you in the raid at any point. Raid kept at it and wiped the freeps many times.
And, for the record, I haven't put up any threads for the sake of giving out about the freeps recently.
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Good to know, but i make 10k inf on somedays, doesnt mean the action is fun or exciting.
Originally Posted by Squelcher
I didnt see you in the raid at any point.
Me being in the raid doesnt have anything to do with how the action is, because i usually leech from the raid.
Originally Posted by Squelcher
Raid kept at it and wiped the freeps many times.
If you say so.
Originally Posted by Squelcher
And, for the record, I haven't put up any threads for the sake of giving out about the freeps recently.
Why dont you correct peoples grammar (That no one cares about) and make a big issue about it, and then make some mistakes yourself when you claimed to be mr perfect.
Good to know, but i make 10k inf on somedays, doesnt mean the action is fun or exciting.
Me being in the raid doesnt have anything to do with how the action is, because i usually leech from the raid.
If you say so.
Why dont you correct peoples grammar (That no one cares about) and make a big issue about it, and then make some mistakes yourself when you claimed to be mr perfect.
1. You're a BA.
2. It means that you'd have benefited more if you were in the raid.
3. Ask Akor, he led it.
4. There was not a single grammar mistake in that sentence.
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You said you got 2k inf implying that the night was fun but it was not fun the entire night because of the ammount of keep flipping, keep huggers and static action/outnumbered throughout the night.
Originally Posted by Squelcher
2. It means that you'd have benefited more if you were in the raid.
Not really.
Originally Posted by Squelcher
3. Ask Akor, he led it.
There is a world of creeps outside the raid who dont think so.
Originally Posted by Squelcher
4. There was not a single grammar mistake in that sentence.
Originally Posted by Pelious
Why dont you correct peoples grammar (That no one cares about) and make a big issue about it, and then make some mistakes yourself when you claimed to be mr perfect.
You said you got 2k inf implying that the night was fun but it was not fun the entire night because of the ammount of keep flipping, keep huggers and static action/outnumbered throughout the night.
Not really.
There is a world of creeps outside the raid who dont think so.
L2READ
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1. The raid would agree that the night was fun.
2. Yes really.
3. A world of them.... point me to them, names, quotes, then Ill get the raid to tell you that the action was good.
4. I can read very well, but your sentence made little sense in context.
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I am playing for raiting so no i would not have benefit for raiting as i would have been forced to charge and die to a raid at times losing 100+ raiting.
Originally Posted by Squelcher
3. A world of them.... point me to them, names, quotes, then Ill get the raid to tell you that the action was good.
As i said, there is a world outside the raid. If people wanted to have an arranged fixed fight, it should have been in the old spar zone west of HH where it could have been un-intereupted. If you want to have fun fine, but dont ruin other peoples evening.
Originally Posted by Squelcher
4. I can read very well, but your sentence made little sense in context.
Of course it made little sense, you are a potato, you dont understand english.
L2READ means learn to read.
2 Creeps saying Event is good and works Inf for them, 1 Creep saying not. Hmm. Have to go with the two im afraid. Peli, You have to calm down matey. You'll end up heart attack and your only 17 or 18 years old.
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2 Creeps saying Event is good and works Inf for them, 1 Creep saying not. Hmm. Have to go with the two im afraid. Peli, You have to calm down matey. You'll end up heart attack and your only 17 or 18 years old.
Not many people read the forums who pvmp as creep. But i could have sworn not many people were happy about the freep zergball. And of course you would go for the two you will always support your side regardless.
Also, it is pretty much impossible for me to have a heart attack at this age.
I am playing for raiting so no i would not have benefit for raiting as i would have been forced to charge and die to a raid at times losing 100+ raiting.
As i said, there is a world outside the raid. If people wanted to have an arranged fixed fight, it should have been in the old spar zone west of HH where it could have been un-intereupted. If you want to have fun fine, but dont ruin other peoples evening.
Of course it made little sense, you are a potato, you dont understand english.
L2READ means learn to read.
1. Who were they?
2. Its your own fault if rating is more important to you.
3. Again, who were they?
4. I wasn't referring to L2READ, and I am quite confident my reading abilities are very good.
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Its always the same if Peli had a #### night, then it must have been a krap night, you know Peli, ppl can enjoy EM even if you dont.
One minute you moan there arn`t enough creeps to fill a Raid , then you are saying you wont join the Raid because you are playing for Rating, and how many other Creeps are doing the same, the amount of times you say there are only `x` amount of Creeps in a Raid, well add all those that arn`t and you will probably double your numbers.
Maybe its time to stop blaming everything else for everything that dosn`t go your way, you`re not 12 anymore, are you ??
I will not point out any names, but there were people.
How is it my fault when you claimed the raid would have benefited me?
If you say so.
1. In otherwords, they don't exist, or there were very few.
2. It is your fault because you choose a playstyle that prevents raid combat from benefitting you to the fullest.
3. I do, in all the difficulty I had to go through in order to type this elaborate and intricately constructed sentence, say so.
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Its always the same if Peli had a #### night, then it must have been a krap night, you know Peli, ppl can enjoy EM even if you dont.
No dout, people have different views and opinions and will see things differently.
If you took time to read my posts you would understand that i do not find it fun anymore cause freeps have more numbers on most nights (a good approximation/average would be 5 out of 7 days in a week litterally) ontop of being OP. Now people would find it fun just cause they zerged 10 freeps with 24 creeps but i certainly dont.
Originally Posted by Reapor
One minute you moan there arn`t enough creeps to fill a Raid
I never once mentioned creep raid. But rather the rediculous numbers freeps can field each night, and ontop of everything, its static action hugging a keep.
Originally Posted by Reapor
then you are saying you wont join the Raid because you are playing for Rating
Dont me wrong, i join the raid quite often and occasionally raid lead. But if i see a reason not (due to rediculous numbers freeps can field) to join i usually don't join
Originally Posted by Reapor
how many other Creeps are doing the same, the amount of times you say there are only `x` amount of Creeps in a Raid,
I never once mentioned creep raid, but rather freep numbers as i have to keep point out.
Originally Posted by Reapor
well add all those that arn`t and you will probably double your numbers.
Yes there are plenty side switchers.
Originally Posted by Reapor
Maybe its time to stop blaming everything else for everything that dosn`t go your way, you`re not 12 anymore, are you ??
I never once blamed anyone mate, i only said stop zerging. Whats happend has happend, but in the future i suggest freeps should just seriously log off and do PvE(since thats what they do in EM anyway) if creeps are seriously outnumbered for the future growth and representation and a good potrait of gilrain amoung other servers
Seriously man, take time to read my post.
1. In otherwords, they don't exist, or there were very few.
You can go find out of yourself since you are so intrested, just ask in creep chat/raid but i can garuntee you there were quite a few.
Originally Posted by Squelcher
2. It is your fault because you choose a playstyle that prevents raid combat from benefitting you to the fullest.
Nope i still make mad inf.
Then again as i keep mentioning its not about inf.
YOU are the one who said it would have benefited me the most when i can make the most raiting/inf outside of raid and dying less.
Originally Posted by Squelcher
3. I do, in all the difficulty I had to go through in order to type this elaborate and intricately constructed sentence, say so.
i only said stop zerging. Whats happend has happend, but in the future i suggest freeps should just seriously log off and do PvE(since thats what they do in EM anyway) if creeps are seriously outnumbered for the future growth and representation of gilrain amoung other servers
Seriously man, take time to read my post.
I hate zerging too, but it is unavoidable. If creeps drastically outnumber freeps, we mercilessly farm them until they are driven to their last keep, or log out. Freeps have the right to do the same, even though it is very annoying.
The numerical imbalance was not bad tonight, in fact, we had a raid and a half, one led by Akor and the other by Olog. We stood toe to toe with the freeps, in the open, numerous times.
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Nope i still make mad inf.
Then again as i keep mentioning its not about inf.
You made tons of inf.
And kept your rating.
Then why are you complaining...?
You say you are angry because freeps are zerging? If you were, you would gather a raid to resist them and lead it yourself, rather than leaching on the sidelines.
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I hate zerging too, but it is unavoidable. If creeps drastically outnumber freeps, we mercilessly farm them until they are driven to their last keep, or log out. Freeps have the right to do the same, even though it is very annoying.
You are right.
But the ammount of times freeps get outnumber creeps cant even be compared to the ammount it happens to creeps.
Most of the times, its around 5 times in a week creeps get outnumbered by freeps.
Originally Posted by Squelcher
The numerical imbalance was not bad tonight,
No dout, but at the peak of the night there was 42 freeps confirmed by multiple wargs and thats when the map turned blue.
It happens way to often.
Originally Posted by Squelcher
in fact, we had a raid and a half, one led by Akor and the other by Olog. We stood toe to toe with the freeps, in the open, numerous times.
No dout, each side had ups and downs but when freeps had their ups, it turned the map blue and turned into a PvE fest and eventually killed all the action.
No dout, each side had ups and downs but when freeps had their ups, it turned the map blue and turned into a PvE fest and eventually killed all the action.
This probably happened because Akor disbanded the main raid, paving the way for keep taking. There was no creep opposition.
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You made tons of inf.
And kept your rating.
Then why are you complaining...?
You claimed that joinning the raid would have benefited me. So i then claimed that i can gain inf/raiting but as i keep mentioning its not about that.
Originally Posted by Squelcher
You say you are angry because freeps are zerging? If you were, you would gather a raid to resist them and lead it yourself, rather than leaching on the sidelines.
Ako was already signed up as raid leader.
I had anticipated freeps rolling the map with their PvE gang bangs, so i decided not to raid.
I never once blamed anyone mate, i only said stop zerging. Whats happend has happend, but in the future i suggest freeps should just seriously log off and do PvE(since thats what they do in EM anyway) if creeps are seriously outnumbered for the future growth and representation and a good potrait of gilrain amoung other servers
Seriously man, take time to read my post.
How many times have you lead or been part of a Creep Raid that has zerged, I have witnessed it many times, indeed one of the main reasons Freeps Raid up is because they are getting zerged (Fact), this isn`t counting kin Raids, I have been on the end of many of your zergs in TA, EC and TR.
Freeps will not stay unraided to be zerged, it is not the Freeps fault there are so many in EM, its not Freeps fault that there are so few Creeps, and the fact there are so few Creeps is one of the problems, maybe its time to start looking at that problem instead of blaming Freeps for this, that and the other.
And if you think Freeps are painting a bad portrait of our Server then you are delusional, you honestly think its any different on other server, huge warg packs, Freeps heavily outnumbering Creeps, its the same on all servers.
Seriously Peli, most of the time there are a lot more Creeps on than you say, when we are killing 12-15 Uruks at OC, tracking 10+ wargs that wont fight, then a spawncamping pack as well, normally consisting of 5+ wargs , a spider or 2, and sometimes a couple of Uruks, its a lot more than you often portray.
This probably happened because Akor disbanded the main raid, paving the way for keep taking. There was no creep opposition.
I was there when ako had his raid and the map went blue in less than 2m. Lug fell while creeps waited at lug, creeps went up to lug, TA fell along with ID, and when creeps left lug it got rolled seconds later and everything went blue. I am pretty sure BD had a group ontop of regular freep raid and probably another ninja secret freep group. <----- and this is the reason i am complaining.
I was there when ako had his raid and the map went blue in less than 2m. Lug fell while creeps waited at lug, creeps went up to lug, TA fell along with ID, and when creeps left lug it got rolled seconds later and everything went blue. I am pretty sure BD had a group ontop of regular freep raid and probably another ninja secret freep group. <----- and this is the reason i am complaining.
Tbh I doubt you'd be complaining if you had a full raid fighting freeps and RG or Fatality had a group ninjaing keeps aswell while the freeps were occupied.
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How many times have you lead or been part of a Creep Raid that has zerged,
No dout plenty, but the number of times my raid has been beat down by to many freeps is countless.
Originally Posted by Reapor
I have witnessed it many times,
Have you witnessed the times my raid got thrashed by to many freeps as well?
Originally Posted by Reapor
indeed one of the main reasons Freeps Raid up is because they are getting zerged (Fact), this isn`t counting kin Raids, I have been on the end of many of your zergs in TA, EC and TR.
There is nothing wrong with raiding up, but as i have been doing recently, when i see freeps get beat to many times or if they are way to outnumbered i usually end up disbanding. Where as other raidleaders would go on constantly abusing that power and farming the opposition forces like a corn field.
Originally Posted by Reapor
Freeps will not stay unraided to be zerged,
No dout i never asked them to.
Originally Posted by Reapor
it is not the Freeps fault there are so many in EM, its not Freeps fault that there are so few Creeps,
Now this is one of the biggest controversial topics on this server.
I like to see it in the following way A) Gilrain used to be a small server, but rich in pvmp players
There were many incidents like this(To many freeps few creeps) that forced i would say roughly 60% of the creep vetran force to world transferd
to other servers upon arrival of the premium services. Now this incident has left a scar on gilrain that has healed up with the entry of F2P it boosted players and activity greatly. BUT, since SWTOR released and some other games, i have seen a very vast ammount of true core gilrainian creep vetrans start to dissappear (activity wise) and with no core for creeps, they dont stand a chance againts freeps. Eventually tearing that scar that just recently healed up and damaging PvMP to a new low again on this server.
B) the creep community is naturally smaller than freeps because creep is just one very small aspect of lotro.
C) Creeps are limited.
Originally Posted by Reapor
and the fact there are so few Creeps is one of the problems, maybe its time to start looking at that problem instead of blaming Freeps for this, that and the other.
Freeps can help to, when they see creeps being farmed by to many freeps, just log off.
Originally Posted by Reapor
And if you think Freeps are painting a bad portrait of our Server then you are delusional, you honestly think its any different on other server, huge warg packs, Freeps heavily outnumbering Creeps, its the same on all servers.
There was one guy on our forum(you can read about him on ongoing EM discussion scroll back around 10 pages) recently who wouldnt transfer here because of the ammount of freep tactical class's in EM and the ammount of freeps damaging the server itself in EM. So yes you are damaging the potrait of our server. It's the same on laurien. Laurien is heavily freep dominated server you can ask anyone from that server they'll tell you the same.
Originally Posted by Reapor
Seriously Peli, most of the time there are a lot more Creeps on than you say, when we are killing 12-15 Uruks at OC, tracking 10+ wargs that wont fight, then a spawncamping pack as well, normally consisting of 5+ wargs , a spider or 2, and sometimes a couple of Uruks, its a lot more than you often portray.
Going by that logic, should we also count the LC OP/HH/grothum freep farmers for quest items, freeps who camp slug farmers and many others and so? no, we always count opposition at the main fight because ultimately they control the outcome of the map.
Not many people read the forums who pvmp as creep. But i could have sworn not many people were happy about the freep zergball. And of course you would go for the two you will always support your side regardless.
Also, it is pretty much impossible for me to have a heart attack at this age.
Hmmm. The two people whom countered your argument are both creep players. So don't know how you can post "Always support your side" Last I saw Squelcher was as a creep. But hey, his opinion must have nothing to yours. Since yours must count for all of creepside EM.
As I said, it may be rare, But you need to chill out. Your full of blaming everyone else in EM bar yorself. Maybe you need a break. Looks like it's not fun for you. The idea is for fun.
Before you do your usual copy paste boring response. There were wipes both sides of EM tonight. Credit ot both Creep and Freep leaders for getting a good bit of action going. Didn't see you there, but others who post "well dones" and "respect" to other people were!!!
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Hmmm. The two people whom countered your argument are both creep players. So don't know how you can post "Always support your side" Last I saw Squelcher was as a creep.
Just because 2 people countered my argument doesnt mean all the people agree with it, there are plenty of creeps who dont think so, who also dont read the forum.
Originally Posted by Ricen
But hey, his opinion must have nothing to yours. Since yours must count for all of creepside EM.
Unless you have been on creep side and seen many complaining about whats going on atm, i would say otherwise. I am not the only one who feels this way.
Originally Posted by Ricen
As I said, it may be rare, But you need to chill out.
But i'm not even mad.....
Originally Posted by Ricen
Your full of blaming everyone else in EM bar yorself.
If you only you took time to read my post and understand what i am trying to say. I am not blamming people themselves, but their rubbish mentality of farming opposition forces while they have power and logging when they start to lose that power.
Originally Posted by Ricen
Maybe you need a break. Looks like it's not fun for you. The idea is for fun.
I think you need a break from all that farming with rediculous numbers.
Originally Posted by Ricen
Before you do your usual copy paste boring response.
You mean like this??
Originally Posted by Ricen
There were wipes both sides of EM tonight.
I never said there was no wipes on both sides.
Originally Posted by Ricen
Credit ot both Creep and Freep leaders for getting a good bit of action going.
Indeed, credit to creeps for putting up with the zergball freep raid, truely determined and brave creepies.
Originally Posted by Ricen
Didn't see you there, but others who post "well dones" and "respect" to other people were!!!
You didnt see me there because i was not there the entire night. And the times that i was online i was looking for solo if not smaller group fights.
You claim that i need a break from lotro when i have better things to do than to sit around and get zerged to freeps lol....Clearly you need a break from all your mindless farming.
Just because 2 people countered my argument doesnt mean all the people agree with it, there are plenty of creeps who dont think so, who also dont read the forum.
Unless you have been on creep side and seen many complaining about whats going on atm, i would say otherwise. I am not the only one who feels this way.
But i'm not even mad.....
If you only you took time to read my post and understand what i am trying to say. I am not blamming people themselves, but their rubbish mentality of farming opposition forces while they have power and logging when they start to lose that power.
I think you need a break from all that farming with rediculous numbers.
You mean like this??
I never said there was no wipes on both sides.
Indeed, credit to creeps for putting up with the zergball freep raid, truely determined and brave creepies.
You didnt see me there because i was not there the entire night. And the times that i was online i was looking for solo if not smaller group fights.
You claim that i need a break from lotro when i have better things to do than to sit around and get zerged to freeps lol....Clearly you need a break from all your mindless farming.
Yawnfest.
Keep it up lol
Lol I mindlessly farm More spamtastic rubbish on the forums. Keep it up Makes us laugh.
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hi peeps who read this...but from my experience of wot happened 2nite was the fact that it wasnt the freep raid that turned the map blue it was the mindless idiots who have enjoyment in ruinin everyone elses fun...PELI i havent been on the server long enough to cast opinions on anyones gameplay m8 but u need to calm down a bit as in blamin the main freep raid...we was 24 not 40..we cant control who follows us just the same as creepside...zerg trains unfortunatly happens both sides...again ive experienced been totaly rolled over by creeps 15+v1 but i dont whine about it,i retreat brush myself down and get on with it which i think most peeps do on both sides.....both sides 2nite wiped more or less equal amount of times and just to finish off i would like to thank all raid participants both sides and lets do it again sometime in near future..all the best guys... certacito
Lol I mindlessly farm More spamtastic rubbish on the forums. Keep it up Makes us laugh.
People ask me why i troll so much and its because of this exact reason. If you are going to reply with this, plz dont bother posting.
Going back ontopic, Plz stop the stop zergballs.
hi peeps who read this...but from my experience of wot happened 2nite was the fact that it wasnt the freep raid that turned the map blue it was the mindless idiots who have enjoyment in ruinin everyone elses fun...PELI i havent been on the server long enough to cast opinions on anyones gameplay m8 but u need to calm down a bit as in blamin the main freep raid...we was 24 not 40..we cant control who follows us just the same as creepside...zerg trains unfortunatly happens both sides...again ive experienced been totaly rolled over by creeps 15+v1 but i dont whine about it,i retreat brush myself down and get on with it which i think most peeps do on both sides.....both sides 2nite wiped more or less equal amount of times and just to finish off i would like to thank all raid participants both sides and lets do it again sometime in near future..all the best guys... certacito
Good Post mate.
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hi peeps who read this...but from my experience of wot happened 2nite was the fact that it wasnt the freep raid that turned the map blue it was the mindless idiots who have enjoyment in ruinin everyone elses fun...PELI i havent been on the server long enough to cast opinions on anyones gameplay m8 but u need to calm down a bit as in blamin the main freep raid...we was 24 not 40..we cant control who follows us just the same as creepside...zerg trains unfortunatly happens both sides...again ive experienced been totaly rolled over by creeps 15+v1 but i dont whine about it,i retreat brush myself down and get on with it which i think most peeps do on both sides.....both sides 2nite wiped more or less equal amount of times and just to finish off i would like to thank all raid participants both sides and lets do it again sometime in near future..all the best guys... certacito
Your lack of grammar and atrocious spelling makes me sick.
hi peeps who read this...but from my experience of wot happened 2nite was the fact that it wasnt the freep raid that turned the map blue it was the mindless idiots who have enjoyment in ruinin everyone elses fun...PELI i havent been on the server long enough to cast opinions on anyones gameplay m8 but u need to calm down a bit as in blamin the main freep raid...we was 24 not 40..we cant control who follows us just the same as creepside...zerg trains unfortunatly happens both sides...again ive experienced been totaly rolled over by creeps 15+v1 but i dont whine about it,i retreat brush myself down and get on with it which i think most peeps do on both sides.....both sides 2nite wiped more or less equal amount of times and just to finish off i would like to thank all raid participants both sides and lets do it again sometime in near future..all the best guys... certacito
You dont get my point i am not blaming or hating anyone. I am simply pointing out peoples attitudes and if it doesnt get changed well, it will just damage the server for pretty much everyone. Like it happend a few years ago.
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