Thread: I need to stop complaining

After QQing about Thudd hitting me for 1.9k, then 3k, then 7.7k in creep OOC, I was informed that Wargs could autocrit for 1k with Bestial Claws.

Freeps need to have their defenses too. I barely see 12 burglars ganking 1 creep but i frequently see wargs gank, yes, freeps hit hard, but they have 1/2 of creep's morale and since creeping became f2p, we need those dps, BTW, it was some nice raid out there today and yesterday, killed you and you also killed me, had fun around, it was balanced raids


asterune, runekeeper

Originally Posted by Astelor

Freeps need to have their defenses too. I barely see 12 burglars ganking 1 creep but i frequently see wargs gank, yes, freeps hit hard, but they have 1/2 of creep's morale and since creeping became f2p, we need those dps, BTW, it was some nice raid out there today and yesterday, killed you and you also killed me, had fun around, it was balanced raids


asterune, runekeeper

This is something most players forget or ignore, wargs packs are still the end all of most any situations and there's alot more of them than anything else. On the other hand freep groups will blow you up fast but not as fast or at all in a creep group Also, complaining about a ranked/geared and well played rk blowing you up is grin-worthy. How often has that RK been completely owned/stun locked as well by a variety of wargs.

Originally Posted by Dercin

This is something most players forget or ignore, wargs packs are still the end all of most any situations and there's alot more of them than anything else. On the other hand freep groups will blow you up fast but not as fast or at all in a creep group Also, complaining about a ranked/geared and well played rk blowing you up is grin-worthy. How often has that RK been completely owned/stun locked as well by a variety of wargs.

Originally Posted by Astelor

Freeps need to have their defenses too. I barely see 12 burglars ganking 1 creep but i frequently see wargs gank, yes, freeps hit hard, but they have 1/2 of creep's morale and since creeping became f2p, we need those dps, BTW, it was some nice raid out there today and yesterday, killed you and you also killed me, had fun around, it was balanced raids








asterune, runekeeper

All of my what.

RKs destroy Wargs. Creeps don't have double Freep morale.

Originally Posted by Astelor

Freeps need to have their defenses too. I barely see 12 burglars ganking 1 creep but i frequently see wargs gank, yes, freeps hit hard, but they have 1/2 of creep's morale and since creeping became f2p, we need those dps, BTW, it was some nice raid out there today and yesterday, killed you and you also killed me, had fun around, it was balanced raids


asterune, runekeeper

Freeps don't have half a creep's morale.
I've seen Guards and Wardens running around with 16k unbuffed, only WLs and Reavers can get that high in morale.
Also, 3 Burglars vs 1 creep would suffice. As seen by Badcredit, Nocredit, and Credit.

Originally Posted by Dercin

This is something most players forget or ignore, wargs packs are still the end all of most any situations and there's alot more of them than anything else. On the other hand freep groups will blow you up fast but not as fast or at all in a creep group Also, complaining about a ranked/geared and well played rk blowing you up is grin-worthy. How often has that RK been completely owned/stun locked as well by a variety of wargs.

I think you're missing my point, and that was my fault. The joke here is that Wargs can autocrit Bestial Claws for 1k, each time presumably.

Originally Posted by PhantomPunkk

All of my what.

RKs destroy Wargs. Creeps don't have double Freep morale.

RKs depend on crits more than any other freep class I think, a R7 Audacity Warg in Flayer probably wouldn't have much trouble beating a RK. Atleast mine doesn't (On another server), I've even been critted with EC in those fights and still came out victorious. Shadow is totally different, it's about killing the RK before he gets EC off. If he does, better pray he doesn't crit on it. (1v1 wise)
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Now Warg packs are a totally different thing, I hate them, I avoid them when I freep, and I never join them when I'm on my Warg. But really, 12 of any class will blow up anything freep or creep if it's solo. Sometimes before even heals/bubbles can react.

I don't want this to turn into a RK vs Creep thread or anything, it was meant as a joke I know how hard RKs crit.

It sure is hard being a class that depends on crits when you've a low cooldown skill that hits hard, aoe mezzes, and pretty much guarantees you crits.

I don't think Flayer is good for fighting RKs.

Originally Posted by PhantomPunkk

It sure is hard being a class that depends on crits when you've a low cooldown skill that hits hard, aoe mezzes, and pretty much guarantees you crits.

I don't think Flayer is good for fighting RKs.

Perfect Imagery? That skill is pretty OP I'll give you that.

Since I've gotten r7 Audacity on my main Warg, I admit, I haven't been using Flayer against RKs 1v1. But when I got R7 audacity that was like a 4-5 days after U6 dropped, a lot has changed since then. Freeps have gotten the Audacity gear, U7 dropped, Star-lit crystals thing and blah blah blah. That was just my personal opinion, I felt pretty BA when I beat experienced, geared, hard-hitting RKs even AFTER their ECs crit me. Also I haven't fought a RK on my main after U7 either, I'll have to test them now they hit harder.

Originally Posted by PG13

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Now Warg packs are a totally different thing, I hate them, I avoid them when I freep, and I never join them when I'm on my Warg. But really, 12 of any class will blow up anything freep or creep if it's solo. Sometimes before even heals/bubbles can react.

just saying but if you keep a wargpack small to around 3-4 wargs it is actualy ALOT of fun

Originally Posted by PG13

Perfect Imagery? That skill is pretty OP I'll give you that.

Since I've gotten r7 Audacity on my main Warg, I admit, I haven't been using Flayer against RKs 1v1. But when I got R7 audacity that was like a 4-5 days after U6 dropped, a lot has changed since then. Freeps have gotten the Audacity gear, U7 dropped, Star-lit crystals thing and blah blah blah. That was just my personal opinion, I felt pretty BA when I beat experienced, geared, hard-hitting RKs even AFTER their ECs crit me. Also I haven't fought a RK on my main after U7 either, I'll have to test them now they hit harder.

Flayer is only about 10-15% more mitigation depending on how you are traited. I'd much sooner have the damage from Shadow when dealing with RKs. If you're in Flayer and they use Armor of Storm you shouldn't be able to kill them before they do you, unless they fail and pot before you use your Disarm.

[QUOTE=PG13;6185555]Freeps don't have half a creep's morale.
I've seen Guards and Wardens running around with 16k unbuffed, only WLs and Reavers can get that high in morale.
Also, 3 Burglars vs 1 creep would suffice. As seen by Badcredit, Nocredit, and Credit.


Is this a complaint against the three or pointing out that three freeps can kill a creep or both?

Originally Posted by PhantomPunkk

All of my what.

RKs destroy Wargs. Creeps don't have double Freep morale.

1. Wargs who dont know what they're doing die to rks on average

2. Rk's who dont know how to play their class die to wargs alot

3. So i call it a wash

4. Some creeps DO have double the health then SOME freeps

Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL

1. Wargs who dont know what they're doing die to rks on average

2. Rk's who dont know how to play their class die to wargs alot

3. So i call it a wash

4. Some creeps DO have double the health then SOME freeps

RKs are fundamentally better than Wargs.

The Creep morale thing gets thrown out a lot, and it simply isn't true the overwhelming majority of the time.

Originally Posted by PhantomPunkk

RKs are fundamentally better than Wargs.

The Creep morale thing gets thrown out a lot, and it simply isn't true the overwhelming majority of the time.

If Rks had inductions for their big skills then it would be different and it doesnt matter fundamentally that they're better then wargs if they dont live up to their abilitys


Kinda like matching up wargs against Lms fundamentally Wargs match up better

Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL

If Rks had inductions for their big skills then it would be different and it doesnt matter fundamentally that they're better then wargs if they dont live up to their abilitys


Kinda like matching up wargs against Lms fundamentally Wargs match up better

All I understood was 'Wil I'm sorry for tracking you, I'll never do it again, don't eat me!'.

Originally Posted by PhantomPunkk

All I understood was 'Wil I'm sorry for tracking you, I'll never do it again, don't eat me!'.

LOL!!!!!!!!!