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    Fall to Our Wrath and Finesse in a Healing Build

    Is there official word as to whether Fall to Our Wrath can be resisted? I think I've seen it miss.

    What I'm trying to figure out is whether a healing build with Fall to Our Wrath, capstone, and TWDNKU as the legendaries will benefit from more finesse. As of now, the only places for finesse (assuming 5 Eglerin) would be: 1k on armor, 1k on the Ox Camp bartered necklace (purple version), 1k on pocket (Well-worn keepsake), 1k on the Anduin sage's Ring, 1k on (some ToO T1 ring) OR 500 on the R4 pvp ring, and 500 on the stone (finesse legacy). That's a top-end of 5.5k (or whereabouts). I don't think I've ever used all the finesse pieces/legacy.

    Also, I hear there's a bug (WAI?) about rk skill missing. Apparently, some of the "misses" should be resists, in the sense that they are effected by finesse, unlike, say, a champ skill missing would be affected by a different RNG than a champ skill getting b/p/ed. Is this true?
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    Re: Fall to Our Wrath and Finesse in a Healing Build

    Quote Originally Posted by Tityla View Post
    Is there official word as to whether Fall to Our Wrath can be resisted? I think I've seen it miss.

    What I'm trying to figure out is whether a healing build with Fall to Our Wrath, capstone, and TWDNKU as the legendaries will benefit from more finesse. As of now, the only places for finesse (assuming 5 Eglerin) would be: 1k on armor, 1k on the Ox Camp bartered necklace (purple version), 1k on pocket (Well-worn keepsake), 1k on the Anduin sage's Ring, 1k on (some ToO T1 ring) OR 500 on the R4 pvp ring, and 500 on the stone (finesse legacy). That's a top-end of 5.5k (or whereabouts). I don't think I've ever used all the finesse pieces/legacy.

    Also, I hear there's a bug (WAI?) about rk skill missing. Apparently, some of the "misses" should be resists, in the sense that they are effected by finesse, unlike, say, a champ skill missing would be affected by a different RNG than a champ skill getting b/p/ed. Is this true?
    Fall to Our Wrath is useless for a healing build unless you're trying to sling debuffs while healing... which isn't a bad idea. In that vein, Finesse would be important. But most of the time, you'll be actually healing, and Finesse and FtOW aren't useful for that.

    I haven't seen any of my skills miss. However, Finesse is more important in the Moors, and I rarely go there. In PvE, Finesse seems to make less of a difference.


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    Re: Fall to Our Wrath and Finesse in a Healing Build

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectApproach View Post
    Fall to Our Wrath is useless for a healing build unless you're trying to sling debuffs while healing... which isn't a bad idea. In that vein, Finesse would be important. But most of the time, you'll be actually healing, and Finesse and FtOW aren't useful for that.

    I haven't seen any of my skills miss. However, Finesse is more important in the Moors, and I rarely go there. In PvE, Finesse seems to make less of a difference.
    Fall to our wrath/lightning is a good incoming damage debuff. Of course, the tradeoff is the (almost) useless rune sign of storm (compared to winter) due to dps classes being crit capped. But overall, it still provides a dps boost. As long as one feels comfortable morale/icpr/squishiness-wise without Martial Training, Fall to seems a good trait.

    I haven't healed ToO T2 that many times to get a statistically significant understanding of skill misses/resists. For example, I missed on corruption removal on F&F (lvl 77) and interrupt on Shadow defilers (I think also lvl 77) but didn't miss/resist at all on Iorweth (lvl 78).


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    Re: Fall to Our Wrath and Finesse in a Healing Build

    Finesse is important as healer, indeed. In 2-3 fights in ToO you will need to cure corruptions and you won´t want them to miss, specially in F&F.

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