Thread: Warg Packs

to all those wargs that warg pack, it gets annoying, it may not to others but to many of us it does, please keep the warg packing to a minimum thanks (;

Ever see a group of 6 minis running around? I don't play on Arkenstone, however I've seen Freeps do some really creative and frustratingly cheesy things. I find fault in warg packs in the same manner I find fault in a mini choir. Fix the freeps and you'll probably fix the creeps.

I think this was addressed in the Ettenmoors thread. Pretty much all the seasoned creeps cant stand all the warg packs that are out. It is just ridiculous, and it kills the action. It typically results in burg packs, which instead of killing all the wargs, just killing all the two legged creeps. Which in turn, makes us two legged creeps go get a dog. I will make a deal, I will not heal dogs out-of-group, you dont hit me. Deal?

Anyway we can get people to stop the minny packs? They are just as annoying.


I know this is a waste of space. People are going to spend their $$$ as they wish.

Originally Posted by Rotschreck

Ever see a group of 6 minis running around? I don't play on Arkenstone, however I've seen Freeps do some really creative and frustratingly cheesy things. I find fault in warg packs in the same manner I find fault in a mini choir. Fix the freeps and you'll probably fix the creeps.

Shhhhhh, wouldn't wanna give any ideas like that lol. Ark has been seeing tons of wargs grouped up since U6, Theyre hasnt been any mini choirs yet i think.

I'm sure there are legitimate wargs packs out there from time to time but I think it's really just a case of a ####load of people are playing wargs these days. They all end up where the food is and it becomes an unintentinal warg pack.

i dont realy see any problem with Wargpacks, i played in warg packs in ark or E and its alot of fun, now iam trying to get a burg pack from the kin but i think one of the best ways to stop the wargs are hunters, Hunters group or raid with a good focus fire is just nasty lol.

have fun all

These warg packs really must stop. I know they can be fun though. But every warg is a decent solo class and should be able to solo, and most wargs can't, because all they do is pack. Also funny whenever I see one of the packers alone, they hips or sprint as soon as I attack them, instead of at least trying to put up a fight.

Originally Posted by burzumaz

These warg packs really must stop. I know they can be fun though. But every warg is a decent solo class and should be able to solo, and most wargs can't, because all they do is pack. Also funny whenever I see one of the packers alone, they hips or sprint as soon as I attack them, instead of at least trying to put up a fight.

Doubt it, you may be the easiest Burg to solo there little hobbit. And a Warg vs a Burg is no contest. 2 Wargs vs a Burg is no contest. 3 Wargs vs a Burg and that is fun.

Originally Posted by Lutheran

Doubt it, you may be the easiest Burg to solo there little hobbit. And a Warg vs a Burg is no contest. 2 Wargs vs a Burg is no contest. 3 Wargs vs a Burg and that is fun.

How do you know that? who is your creep? And don't tell me you can win a fight against 3 high ranked wargs. Im also talking about the rank 6+ wargs..

Originally Posted by burzumaz

These warg packs really must stop. I know they can be fun though. But every warg is a decent solo class and should be able to solo, and most wargs can't, because all they do is pack. Also funny whenever I see one of the packers alone, they hips or sprint as soon as I attack them, instead of at least trying to put up a fight.

That's like saying every freep is a good solo class and should stop grouping...

Originally Posted by Daec

That's like saying every freep is a good solo class and should stop grouping...

Well, am I saying that freeps should group all the time ? No, only if the situation requires it imo. And warg packs are also a lot more annoying than the usual group of freeps.

Originally Posted by burzumaz

How do you know that? who is your creep? And don't tell me you can win a fight against 3 high ranked wargs. Im also talking about the rank 6+ wargs..

I know that because I have killed you many times solo. And contrary to your statement, I find you the one doing the running. Don't worry about who my creep is, its better that way. Yes I have won against 3 high ranked wargs before. Not always though but I usually get 2 down before the 3rd finishs me. Based off your comments and your gameplay you have no idea how a Burg works. You have more survival/escape skills than any other class out there, yet you rarely use them. There are some good pvp discussions on the Burglar forums, you should take some time and read them and you will find it will help you out there to be a better Burglar.

Wargs are meant to be pack hunters, always have always will. Let em hunt the way they are suppose to. As far as fear of Burg packs, will never happen on this server as most high ranked wont do it, and the lower ranks don't pose that much of a threat.

You all whine too much. Play what you want when you want.

Originally Posted by BladeofPurity

You all whine too much. Play what you want when you want.

Subway eat Fresh!

6+ of anything is gonna kill a solo. I'd put my money on a small freep group over a warg pack any day.

The Warg Sub-comittee on Creep/Freep Relations has been notified of your concerns and will take them into consideration.

warg packs are a joke and only a threat to solos, also they run fast.

Originally Posted by burzumaz

Well, am I saying that freeps should group all the time ? No, only if the situation requires it imo. And warg packs are also a lot more annoying than the usual group of freeps.

But you're singling out wargs saying they must stop, all the points you made about being a decent solo class, most playing are bad etc etc can be said about any single freep class.

Originally Posted by Lutheran

I know that because I have killed you many times solo. And contrary to your statement, I find you the one doing the running. Don't worry about who my creep is, its better that way. Yes I have won against 3 high ranked wargs before. Not always though but I usually get 2 down before the 3rd finishs me. Based off your comments and your gameplay you have no idea how a Burg works. You have more survival/escape skills than any other class out there, yet you rarely use them. There are some good pvp discussions on the Burglar forums, you should take some time and read them and you will find it will help you out there to be a better Burglar.

Wargs are meant to be pack hunters, always have always will. Let em hunt the way they are suppose to. As far as fear of Burg packs, will never happen on this server as most high ranked wont do it, and the lower ranks don't pose that much of a threat.

I have never claimed to be a good burg (yet). I have been reading burg forums as much as I can past week, thanks for the advice anyway, and Im sure I will improve a lot (by soloing, not packing) the coming weeks, both on skills and gear. Don't feel too proud that u can kill me solo, u might have a harder time when I actually get full audacity.. Too bad you dont want to name your creep, but if its a warg, im sure its bloodypaws, hes the only warg that has been soloing me.
Also, about me using my escape skills not often enough, thats true, and creeps like me for that, I also try not to use them in 'honorable' 1v1s.

Bloodypaws is prolly one of the worst wargs on ark atm. Though I havent fought one thats been decent in a long long time.

Originally Posted by burzumaz

How do you know that? who is your creep? And don't tell me you can win a fight against 3 high ranked wargs. Im also talking about the rank 6+ wargs..

Oden oden oden find it kinda funny 2 see u cry about this but... Well as some said before me Wargs are pack animals same as the wolf irl is using the same thing. (We are animals not humans

Well often in the moors u see in the ooc fraid/froup running around at ec ...etc This means all creeps will go there and that also includes the wargs.

And also about your soloing as a burg: Once a warg get some training (normally around r4+) u learn how and what u have 2 do 2 fight a burg. and also we have hips and they are ment 2 be used right?! Thats why we use them. if im not misstaked burgs have 2 hips aswell. (might even have 3?) and those are also there for useage right?

And btw all wargs cant help they Get involved in a pack attack as often alot other wargs join once 1 warg made its pounce.

PS Oden if u need more dps and skill get your full gear before u go into the moors next time and u might see a change

Originally Posted by RageWarg

Oden oden oden find it kinda funny 2 see u cry about this but... Well as some said before me Wargs are pack animals same as the wolf irl is using the same thing. (We are animals not humans

Well often in the moors u see in the ooc fraid/froup running around at ec ...etc This means all creeps will go there and that also includes the wargs.

And also about your soloing as a burg: Once a warg get some training (normally around r4+) u learn how and what u have 2 do 2 fight a burg. and also we have hips and they are ment 2 be used right?! Thats why we use them. if im not misstaked burgs have 2 hips aswell. (might even have 3?) and those are also there for useage right?

And btw all wargs cant help they Get involved in a pack attack as often alot other wargs join once 1 warg made its pounce.

PS Oden if u need more dps and skill get your full gear before u go into the moors next time and u might see a change

Believe me, most freeps dont like the warg pack, not only the under-geared ones..

How come nobody ever complains about defiler packs?

Originally Posted by burzumaz

I have never claimed to be a good burg (yet). I have been reading burg forums as much as I can past week, thanks for the advice anyway, and Im sure I will improve a lot (by soloing, not packing) the coming weeks, both on skills and gear. Don't feel too proud that u can kill me solo, u might have a harder time when I actually get full audacity.. Too bad you dont want to name your creep, but if its a warg, im sure its bloodypaws, hes the only warg that has been soloing me.
Also, about me using my escape skills not often enough, thats true, and creeps like me for that, I also try not to use them in 'honorable' 1v1s.

I think you missed hardias point. The better burgs in the moors on our server don't use their escape kill to escape (most of the time). They use them to get other bonuses to the fight like crits and other stuff (I dont know them all, my burg is 46 lol). Use your escape skils to help you out in fight not run from them.

Just the other day I found burgerprince on his own in front of wtab. I went to attack him and it just so happens that two other wargs hit him as well. We were not grouped up or communicating with each other it just happened that way. I might have called him out in ooc now i think about it though. Either way he fought all three of us. I know he used hips twice and came back into the fight both times. I know he killed one warg and possibly got two and I survived with less than 1k health. Im also pretty sure me and at least one of the other dogs was rank 7 or above. A good burg can hold his own against three dogs.

"A good burg can hold his own against three dogs."

That may be true before wargs got a boost but no longer. 3 well played wargs can destroy any burg. Hell, a really well played warg can give any burg on this server a good 1 for 1. Not trying to bash you here but 3 good dogs should be able to kill the burg without losing a single dog.

Dont get me wrong I’m not bitching about burgs strengths at all but we are not what we used to be. Creeps got the boost they needed. Burgs are not the dominant 1 vs 1 class they were. Im not saying were bad by any means.

Any of the really strong burgs disagree?

Originally Posted by Axeborn

"A good burg can hold his own against three dogs."

That may be true before wargs got a boost but no longer. 3 well played wargs can destroy any burg. Hell, a really well played warg can give any burg on this server a good 1 for 1. Not trying to bash you here but 3 good dogs should be able to kill the burg without losing a single dog.

Dont get me wrong I’m not bitching about burgs strengths at all but we are not what we used to be. Creeps got the boost they needed. Burgs are not the dominant 1 vs 1 class they were. Im not saying were bad by any means.

Any of the really strong burgs disagree?

Maybe with a bunch of audacity and the burg has none, but I still strongly disagree. 2 possibly 3 touch and go's (if it resets, and you get pounced) two hipses, a mez, stun, cj stun, and possibly more than that (idk those are just the ones I do know of). While a warg has a stun from stealth, a cj stun, and a possibly third stun depeding on stance, 1 hips and 1 sprint. Burgs have a major advantage.

I still see the really good burgs on our server getting jumped by a couple dogs and at least getting one kill. I've seen silenced, hardia, burgerprince all solo and get kills against at least three dogs. There used to be more that I haven't seen on in a while, but I'd be willing to bet flaky could still get a couple kills against 3 dogs, and he's been gone for awhile. I've been that kill quite a few times.

Its true that even an average burg can beat three dogs, but that is only because the wargs on this server are terrible and there have never been more than a few at a time that had half an idea of what they were doing. From my experience only terrible wargs run around in packs.

Also there aren't "really good" burgs on this server anymore either, but audacity makes it too easy.

Originally Posted by t-town-colt

Maybe with a bunch of audacity and the burg has none, but I still strongly disagree. 2 possibly 3 touch and go's (if it resets, and you get pounced) two hipses, a mez, stun, cj stun, and possibly more than that (idk those are just the ones I do know of). While a warg has a stun from stealth, a cj stun, and a possibly third stun depeding on stance, 1 hips and 1 sprint. Burgs have a major advantage.

I still see the really good burgs on our server getting jumped by a couple dogs and at least getting one kill. I've seen silenced, hardia, burgerprince all solo and get kills against at least three dogs. There used to be more that I haven't seen on in a while, but I'd be willing to bet flaky could still get a couple kills against 3 dogs, and he's been gone for awhile. I've been that kill quite a few times.

TnG is really useless vs wargs....

Originally Posted by Daec

TnG is really useless vs wargs....

i agree it isnt as usefull considering our skills that don't mis, but I wouldnt really call it useless

Originally Posted by t-town-colt

i agree it isnt as usefull considering our skills that don't mis, but I wouldnt really call it useless

In shadow, claws and maul do far more dmg than anything else, eye rake can't be avoided anyway, and swipe bypasses evade as well. Get your slow on early and the only thing you're missing out on is rend, but that can be thrown on early as well.

So pretty useless

I still get destroyed by good burgs at least burgerprince who is really the only burglar ive fought recently has dominated me every fight. If a warg doesnt brand I dont think a burg should lose to them but I am no means awesome on the dog anymore its third played toon at the moment. I would love to play him more but so many wargs clogging up creepside atm I can't really justify playing him much.

You guys are silly, I love Warg packs!









Yeah I know they're mostly greenies, they're Ark Warg packs after all This is meant for some lighthearted enjoyment, don't take it too seriously.

Originally Posted by thunderchickn

You guys are silly, I love Warg packs!


Yeah I know they're mostly greenies, they're Ark Warg packs after all This is meant for some lighthearted enjoyment, don't take it too seriously.

Sorry Glorno can't enjoy FOREIGNER!

Originally Posted by Lutheran

Sorry Glorno can't enjoy FOREIGNER!

Then you, sir, need better taste in music!

I cracked up when the lyrics "feels like the first time" come up just as the first pack pounces me. Good stuff.

Originally Posted by Axeborn

"A good burg can hold his own against three dogs."

That may be true before wargs got a boost but no longer. 3 well played wargs can destroy any burg. Hell, a really well played warg can give any burg on this server a good 1 for 1. Not trying to bash you here but 3 good dogs should be able to kill the burg without losing a single dog.

Dont get me wrong I’m not bitching about burgs strengths at all but we are not what we used to be. Creeps got the boost they needed. Burgs are not the dominant 1 vs 1 class they were. Im not saying were bad by any means.

Any of the really strong burgs disagree?

A good warg, lol dout theres 3 if 1 on ark, also Flayer brings a much more fun fight. there is such thing as a good warg and a warg can beat a burg but shouldn't if said burg uses ready and able.

Originally Posted by t-town-colt

Maybe with a bunch of audacity and the burg has none, but I still strongly disagree. 2 possibly 3 touch and go's (if it resets, and you get pounced) two hipses, a mez, stun, cj stun, and possibly more than that (idk those are just the ones I do know of). While a warg has a stun from stealth, a cj stun, and a possibly third stun depeding on stance, 1 hips and 1 sprint. Burgs have a major advantage.

I still see the really good burgs on our server getting jumped by a couple dogs and at least getting one kill. I've seen silenced, hardia, burgerprince all solo and get kills against at least three dogs. There used to be more that I haven't seen on in a while, but I'd be willing to bet flaky could still get a couple kills against 3 dogs, and he's been gone for awhile. I've been that kill quite a few times.

My records a rank 11 BA, rank 7 warg and rank 12 warg, burned 2 knives out 1 find footing and 1 hips, they burned everything and the rank 12 used an emblem amazing the difference between skilled and unskilled players at times.

Bring on the burg pack! lmao jk would be 10 times more deadly than a warg pack