Thread: fire and frost t2 challenge

hi crick

this is me medo
will been looking at the froums latly and no1 have beat fnf t2c mode on this game yet SO

my group cant do it yet
here is wht im thinking

we have a couple high class raiders on this server and im sure if we put them 2gather we can finish it

so if u agree with me and wanna be game 1st to beat FNF t2c replay here or send me a mail in game

dont wanna lead it and idc who will do
but it will be nice if crick can do something like this since NO ONE BEAT IT YET ON ANY SERVER


./salute medo

come on guys it will be cool thing to achieve
for once do somthin to ur server ^^

soon i will start callin names :P

If you were to take an all-star group from crickhollow and go raid FnF challenge, you wouldn't get it on the first night, or the 2nd. I would assume it would be a 2-3 week process like the other challenges have been.

So who from fightclub, balrog, and asylum are going to ditch their respective raiding kins for 2-3 weeks to do FnF challenge?

Maybe some sort of weekend raid marathon might work, with people subbing in and out when others get exhausted. Like pug watchers back in Moria... But it doesn't seem very likely. Having to explain the fight to each new addition... Figuring out a lead...

Perhaps your optimism can counter my pessimism.

I'd like to try.

Originally Posted by DuneBug

If you were to take an all-star group from crickhollow and go raid FnF challenge, you wouldn't get it on the first night, or the 2nd. I would assume it would be a 2-3 week process like the other challenges have been.

So who from fightclub, balrog, and asylum are going to ditch their respective raiding kins for 2-3 weeks to do FnF challenge?

Maybe some sort of weekend raid marathon might work, with people subbing in and out when others get exhausted. Like pug watchers back in Moria... But it doesn't seem very likely. Having to explain the fight to each new addition... Figuring out a lead...

Perhaps your optimism can counter my pessimism.

im not looking for ppl to pug it ( glff ppl ) there is end game raiders in this servier who alrdy finish it on t2 without challenge so u dont need to explain much

and nah it wont take much if the ppl im thinking of can do wht i think they can it wont take more than 1 week

im not asking any1 to distch there rai group

for example try every sat and sunday in the end its only fnf ur not going to do with ur group count it as acid or surman

it would be nice if we can do it game 1st FNF challenge

./salute medo

and none of the challenge took more than a week cept acid

the trash pull in orthanc take more time than the challenge

when nba finished lighting server 1st it took us 3 weeks on trash and 3 days on boss

so all start group im sure they can do some damge

./salute medo

I'd honestly like to know who would lead that raid. Reaching that decision could quite possibly be one of the most entertaining moments in the history of Crickhollow.

Originally Posted by Formeniel

I'd honestly like to know who would lead that raid. Reaching that decision could quite possibly be one of the most entertaining moments in the history of Crickhollow.

idc we all end game raiders small stuff like this should not matter

some1 who dont have bad attitude
we have verygood leaders in this server
there is some
kam fex oldin erly senbon
but it would be good for every1 if its some1 can lead but dont lead offten
like healium thiefdog irrdian nobuddy stout wiz

puting all circk stars in 1 raid will make other server envy us
ppl who compete against each other ( or used too ) team up to finish wht others cant
its not 1 kin accomplishments it will be crick accomplishment

keep in mind no 1 else beat fnf t2c in all the game server's

./salute medo

Originally Posted by Formeniel

I'd honestly like to know who would lead that raid. Reaching that decision could quite possibly be one of the most entertaining moments in the history of Crickhollow.

The process or reaching that decision, the process alone XD

Thanks for that disturbing image :P

Originally Posted by Ferthcott

The process or reaching that decision, the process alone XD

Thanks for that disturbing image :P

why u guys feeling so down about this i mean who rly worry to much to disagree or start drama about who lead wht
we all know we can lead it dosnt matter who do it as long as we all work 2ogether and get it done

i will make it happend and i dont wanna lead it
if any1 wanna help me set it up go ahead all i did is just an idea i will not take credit for it nor any1 will its a server effort not 1 player/kin


./salute medo

Originally Posted by dsadada

idc we all end game raiders small stuff like this should not matter

some1 who dont have bad attitude
we have verygood leaders in this server
there is some
kam fex oldin erly senbon
but it would be good for every1 if its some1 can lead but dont lead offten
like healium thiefdog irrdian nobuddy stout wiz

puting all circk stars in 1 raid will make other server envy us
ppl who compete against each other ( or used too ) team up to finish wht others cant
its not 1 kin accomplishments it will be crick accomplishment

keep in mind no 1 else beat fnf t2c in all the game server's

./salute medo

Hahaha while I appreciate the compliment, I feel obligated to tell you I have never led a raid in my life (well, that's almost true), so I would definitely be an absolutely horrible choice.
On another note, while with considering player skills only there is no doubt this server has the capability but not all playing styles, mindsets and personalities play well together.

Originally Posted by Erlessa

Hahaha while I appreciate the compliment, I feel obligated to tell you I have never led a raid in my life (well, that's almost true), so I would definitely be an absolutely horrible choice.
On another note, while with considering player skills only there is no doubt this server has the capability but not all playing styles, mindsets and personalities play well together.

u raid with 1 of the best raider kin in the server u have a good mind u know wht to do dosnt mean u dont led a raid before we all lead in 1 place or another maybe we dont have the leader mark but we do as much as he/she do
the thinking is wht count how to do it when to call stuff wht to do when things are going not as planed

as i said before idc who will lead but for me if none star leader is better than 1 of us who always lead raid just to keep thing friendly

as i said it will be cool to get it done lotro 1st FNF that sure will turn eyes to crick server


./salute medo

and im not sayin that this server kins dont have the group to beat it alone
but we all could use other ppl experience so we do it LOTRO 1st

I'm interested, Medo.

We came very close a couple of times a week or two ago (before U7).

I wonder if we could finish it with dps classes having their crystals now ... ?

~Ith

i will keep u update right now there is around 6 who would join

stop ur ego and join its a server effort :P

./salute medo

I'd be interested in trying, if it could be arranged. I've been working late recently, so I have not had as much time to raid. :[

Originally Posted by tdromba

We came very close a couple of times a week or two ago (before U7).
~Ith

Awesome, tell us more!

Originally Posted by Erlessa

Awesome, tell us more!

Haha, not much to tell. With Medo's group we were close to getting both down a coupla weeks ago and now with crystals dps would be higher.

Challenge mode though, have to control the giant's rage and that seems to be something of a black art at this point.

Originally Posted by dsadada

i will keep u update right now there is around 6 who would join

stop ur ego and join its a server effort :P

./salute medo

Your ego is the main reason you won't get many people from Balrog to join you.

Originally Posted by dsadada

stop ur ego and join its a server effort :P

./salute medo

no medo stop ur ego ..

and let crick's all star guards tank this. come on medo dont let your ego keep us back from a lotro first

This wouldn't be an accomplishment for the server. It would be bragging rights for 12 people, who more than anything, end up getting really lucky.

That's assuming a group of "all-stars" could actually work effectively together, instead of bickering amongst themselves and arguing about who else they want to invite to the group.


Something else to consider - the best players on Crickhollow are merely average in terms of the entire game.



The single best option right now - D3.

( old medo would have answer in a different way )
but u can say i grow up after raiding with too many kids
though
its k oldin u cant make every1 happy some is better than nothing

lagg sure bud i was hoping a end game raider gaurd like u would tank by my side or be 1 of the tanks who is going to do it
get ur all star tanks and with all star raiders and finish it i will be there cheering for u guys and my shield will be rdy if needed
i think this will take a week or two so lots of ppl will get to work on it and leave the jealousy they have or rivaly aside for once


i dont care who tank it who was there when it happend and who got the KB and who joins all i care about for crick to get the 1st lorto KB and if i can help it in any way my shield will be rdy


./salute medo

Originally Posted by Irishpubber

This wouldn't be an accomplishment for the server. It would be bragging rights for 12 people, who more than anything, end up getting really lucky.

That's assuming a group of "all-stars" could actually work effectively together, instead of bickering amongst themselves and arguing about who else they want to invite to the group.


Something else to consider - the best players on Crickhollow are merely average in terms of the entire game.



The single best option right now - D3.

nah it wont be a 12 man accomplishment every1 who work on it all the kin who get in it will take credit for it all the other raiders who agree to make a space so another gets in
coz its gonna be crick alliance 1st to beat fnf t2c on lotro forums

sry bud but i dont agree crick have a wide 1st class raider's making them work together is a tough one but hey we all did run with each other at 1 point some of us use to be close friend and still hold respect for each other

averge lol i can name a couple from each class that im sure can have there spot on the top 10 in that class on all servers
lots on crick have maxed there char with gear/skills and can teach others how to do it
wht others have that we dont have ?
same gear same skill and we all wanna raid and have fun


./salute medo

the thing in crick not alot of end game raiders and they are all scattered around in all server kins
since lotro population is average
and some hate each other for some reason god know why

other servers have huge kins

its all about sticking to it and work on it haveing a huge number off ppl to back u up make it so when some1 leave another get in there place to continue the journey

thats whts different in the end its the same gear same skills and we do have players who raid coz its fun and coz they wanna finish stuff

ex stout wht other server burgs can do that u cant ?? i raided with u did instance withi dont think others can do any thing special that u cant unless they can summon kalbak to fight by there side or seduce surman to look the other way while the other kick his butt

they put it there so we beat it so forget ur past and a new start lets kick this wing butt together


./salute medo

Originally Posted by Irishpubber

This wouldn't be an accomplishment for the server. It would be bragging rights for 12 people, who more than anything, end up getting really lucky.

That's assuming a group of "all-stars" could actually work effectively together, instead of bickering amongst themselves and arguing about who else they want to invite to the group.


Something else to consider - the best players on Crickhollow are merely average in terms of the entire game.



The single best option right now - D3.

Aside from me trolling medo (in my maybe not so obvious way) for trying to bring world peace starting from crickhollow, i need to state something obvious as clear as possible. I m not raiding for the bragging rights or server firsts or to prove that i m better than someone else (i would have moved to an older server long ago). I raid to have fun with friends and the occasional joyful release of completing something challenging for my first time (idc if others have done it before me). So what if after that a good group can replicate each week to farming status.. That doesnt make it any less challenging since one mistake can still wipe us all nor less fullfilling. And its even more challenging with ppl rotating all the time cause someones unavailable.. And imo this is what makes good raiders.

Kinda out of order but luck repeating must eventually be admitted as skill and not everyone we raid with we like (but we learn to work with so we have fun with the rest of our friends who we actually like)

So back to my point now:

This is a reply to the troll named stout..

If u wanna believe that cricks raiders (best or worst but who succeed in challenges in the current end game raids) are average so u justify your own mediocrity, then go ahead.. For all i know this small server has a few groups that can compete with the best raiding groups across all servers. And as far as i m concerned the group i m in never exploited any wing to gear up faster so we could tackle t2 challenges as fast as some kins in older servers.. We earned the right to consider ourselves amongst the best raiders in lotro. A right we earn again and again by completing new challenges.

We may not be the best raiders (nor we care) since most of us are of some age and have jobs and rl responsibilites that keep us all from coming together at the same time, or being fresh and focusin on game, or we may be scattered around the world and have latencies that most of u would consider unplayable, or we may not all be fluent in english (myself first), or have old computers and a million other things that keep us from maybe being the best (skill may always be the main reason :P )..

BUT WE HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT TO CONSIDER OURSELVES AMONGST THE BEST and noone has earned the right to call us average.

So go ahead and crawl back to your cave or go play d3 till u discover u consider yourself average there too or whatever..

ps. i m only representing my views and not my friends' (the raiding group i run with)..

ps2. sorry medo for deviating from the original thread but its not worth it for me personally since I raid to have fun with friends and not to accomplish challenges not even to brag to other servers. As for the challenge in 2-3 weeks probably, since now its doable but ik still hard, some group (on crick or on the older servers) will probably have completed it anyway so why bother. Get some friends and wipe a million times until your group has earned the skill and has found a working strategy and discover how better it feels to have done it on your own. Or even have fun failing while trying. Cause life shouldnt be always about winning. It should be always about living and the wins will come. (not that I m the one to talk about this but anyway)

ps3. i ll prob wont reply to this again.. (go ahead, give it your best shot)(tip: calling my friends average again wont cut it)

./salute lagg (to honour the failtank who started all this )

So Lagg isn't here for bragging rights, but he calls other raid groups mediocre and Failraiders. I don't believe you have any right to be calling people average when I have and still can pull aggro from you in endurance. But I'm not here for bragging rights...

Stout is 100% right. We are average compared to older servers, if even average. You know why? Most of us have been playing for 1-2 years compared to other raid groups who have been together for 4-5 in some cases. To deny that is silly. But because we aren't all fluent in English or have bad computers that makes us elite raiders? I can see the correlation. When we've spent the time in this game that other servers have put in learning their classes, then maybe we can consider ourselves in their caliber.

Originally Posted by dsadada

NO ONE BEAT IT YET ON ANY SERVER

FYI, there are a few kins that come to mind that have no intention of letting anyone know their progress on any game content. They play this game to enjoy the content and eachothers company to get away from real life but above all, they get it done and they do it extremely fast. Trust me, just because people don't talk about it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

This server historically completes content after the next patch or release of new content. Rise of Isengard was released September 27th and there are no strats or youtube videos showing T2 challenge being completed for players to copy/steal...what does this mean?

Forgot to give props to Lagg and Oldin on their posts. I don't read comments after mine, those who know me know it's a waste of time to troll me.

i knew u where trolling but answer a troll is way under my lvl
but for u this time i will answer ( sry for who have to see this side off me) and sry for my english ^^

1st u call me fail when u do or done wht i have done come talk to me bud
not in any way u can get close to where my gaurd or my play style is
u been here as long as im and still ppl dont know who the heck are u outside ur trust circle
ur a good gaurd but if it comes to skills or it counted on u,u will fail every1

2nd ur braging about ur raid group, that u joined after they are fully geared and did the hard stuff dude u even dont raid with ur kin left them to have it the easy way that how much u fail though ur kin have some baddass ppl that im sure can do wht ever1 else can
remmebr balrog beat lighting a month before u guys get close back when we use to raid

before u think ur somthin ask ur ppl where u get the strategy to beat lighting from the wing that u made a champ to bug so ur main can get a couple 1st age since u cant get it from another places or from whom they got tips
as long as ur way under me i have the right to call u average coz for real dude ur average


ASYLUM is maybe the best raidier kin atm and a couple there i take my hate off to them these guys have come a long way and there are kicking it ./salute
but lagg bud dont come show of when u joined them last week u got it on a gold platform ( or somthin like with that ) weeked dps weeked heals a champ can tank for these guys thats how much they are badass not to mention they have 1 of the best tanks theawesomeone on there side from the start
i hope u guys dont take this as im attacking u or anything coz i just wanna enjoy the game for the rest of my stay
i just had to answer an average gaurd thats all

sry for every1 who had to read all the trolling haters will folo u ever where

as a friend of mine said if they are trying hard to put u down that mean ur doin somthin right

i wanna do this for fun and to beat it so every1 know crick can do it small server dont have a chance to beat it 1st coz of lots of kins spliting the good players

and i been wiping on it since my group rdy to raid im tryin it with my raid and will keep tryin when ever we got a time not ever1 have 20 player back up my group is small and we are all close friend we dont run without each other coz thats wht its all about haveing fun with ur friends


i know it look like im asking for so much and some may hate me or think i wanna get credit for it
here is it guys
when i made this thread i had on my mind ppl from all the none raiders kin or who dont have time to finish this stuff
or who there raid group break up
te let them now this new group im making is welcoming them and if and of the star players who raiding right now want to join or lead it i will be mor than happy to invite/ felo


so again mind the trolls


./salute medo

Originally Posted by Oldin

So Lagg isn't here for bragging rights, but he calls other raid groups mediocre and Failraiders. I don't believe you have any right to be calling people average when I have and still can pull aggro from you in endurance. But I'm not here for bragging rights...

Stout is 100% right. We are average compared to older servers, if even average. You know why? Most of us have been playing for 1-2 years compared to other raid groups who have been together for 4-5 in some cases. To deny that is silly. But because we aren't all fluent in English or have bad computers that makes us elite raiders? I can see the correlation. When we've spent the time in this game that other servers have put in learning their classes, then maybe we can consider ourselves in their caliber.

even though u wanna make it personal oldin, i ll play along (cause some ppl on this childish server would consider me schooled if not)..

1st of all explain to those who dont know u for the ragequitter that u proved that one day we grouped that u are. Tell em how when u pulled aggro in shadow boss, even when u know about the bpe debuff and i had just picked with a challenge starting to stack aggro from zero, that u did a heartseeker just when my force taunt ended (one of your greatest works btw...) and then RAGEQUIT immediately (as if u did it on purpose)(even on some of your friends as i recall).. PRO tip btw.. A ####### like yourself and any other fool that was given a bazooka can easily pull aggro from the best tank when bladebrothered with ob up etc even without the bpe debuffs.. Anyway this isnt a pissing competition.. Learn to play along with your group and then come judge me.. For the record once u dropped we did it just fine on the next go without a single problem. So i guess i was the tanks fault..

2nd i beg of u next time before rushing to post some utter bs give it a 2nd read and see what i posted.. u can see the correlation LOL.... i didnt say anywhere that because we have old pcs or arent fluent in english that we are elite raiders.. so please dont paraphrase me. i said it may be the reason we arent the best. And honestly i m not dilluted. i may not even be the best tank on the server. But i ll let ppl who know how to play in groups and understand how aggro works and that there may be taunt misses or when to output their highest dmg spike or even give it another shot and work around in a unique environment, judge me..

3rd go ahead support your buddy as much as u want in calling yourselves average.. then i get the right to call u average too right???.. but it doesnt give u the right to call others average does it?

4th if it is a matter of time i ll give u 2-3 more years to learn your class.. maybe by then u learn to read debuffs on your target and when to output your dmg spikes. who knows maybe by then u ll learn how to stick with a group and work together and not ragequit

5th i m not here to waste my time with you.. so play the fricking game and if u wanna consider yourselves a failure talk only for yourselves. i proved my worth over and over again in many raiding groups..

so i honestly dont care what u think about yourself. just dont post bs about ohters. and no that i ll support my friends when someone calls em average

btw lets let the deeds speak for themselves.. yep guess i m a failtank.. havent soloed saruman t2 yet..

Originally Posted by AlmontRaider

FYI, there are a few kins that come to mind that have no intention of letting anyone know their progress on any game content. They play this game to enjoy the content and eachothers company to get away from real life but above all, they get it done and they do it extremely fast. Trust me, just because people don't talk about it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

This server historically completes content after the next patch or release of new content. Rise of Isengard was released September 27th and there are no strats or youtube videos showing T2 challenge being completed for players to copy/steal...what does this mean?

Forgot to give props to Lagg and Oldin on their posts. I don't read comments after mine, those who know me know it's a waste of time to troll me.

true maybe there is but none that any1 know off when u face somthin like that and there is a thread posting the KBS almost daily and wht made u think that u can find all the other t2c cept fnf
they dont have to show a vid a screen shot would be enough

bud i remmebr when ur kin used to do so if u wanna troll remmeber ur past 1st

2nd u dont understand the idea of this thread so just keep ur troll to ur self if ur not intrested dont worry im not gonna come ask u to join


./salute medo

lol lagg u rly make me laugh where exactly did u earn it ??

after leaveing ur own kin to join an elite raid group or after joining that group when they got the best out of this game ??

trust me if i start a list of wht i did u will stop showing ur face where im

./end trolling

Originally Posted by dsadada

i knew u where trolling but answer a troll is way under my lvl
but for u this time i will answer ( sry for who have to see this side off me) and sry for my english ^^

1st u call me fail when u do or done wht i have done come talk to me bud
not in any way u can get close to where my gaurd or my play style is
u been here as long as im and still ppl dont know who the heck are u outside ur trust circle
ur a good gaurd but if it comes to skills or it counted on u,u will fail every1

2nd ur braging about ur raid group, that u joined after they are fully geared and did the hard stuff dude u even dont raid with ur kin left them to have it the easy way that how much u fail though ur kin have some baddass ppl that im sure can do wht ever1 else can
remmebr balrog beat lighting a month before u guys get close back when we use to raid

before u think ur somthin ask ur ppl where u get the strategy to beat lighting from the wing that u made a champ to bug so ur main can get a couple 1st age since u cant get it from another places or from whom they got tips
as long as ur way under me i have the right to call u average coz for real dude ur average


ASYLUM is maybe the best raidier kin atm and a couple there i take my hate off to them these guys have come a long way and there are kicking it ./salute
but lagg bud dont come show of when u joined them last week u got it on a gold platform ( or somthin like with that ) weeked dps weeked heals a champ can tank for these guys thats how much they are badass not to mention they have 1 of the best tanks theawesomeone on there side from the start
i hope u guys dont take this as im attacking u or anything coz i just wanna enjoy the game for the rest of my stay
i just had to answer an average gaurd thats all

for the record i dont have all day replying to ppl in forums.. so this is the last for today..

so thats the medo we all know and love..

for the record i call thorfinn thorfnoob etc. when u have proven yourself u get when someones joking when i m calling u failtank..

please lets no make it personal whos the best or w.e... i wont fall into that trap.. it was a joke and got misinterpreted.. i ll ignore w.e u said cause honestly this leads to a wrong way and i dont wanna take it..

only this..

u dont know the first thing about my kin and why we arent raiding.. we are a group of friends and not a raiding kin..

u dont know the first thing about the raiding group (asylum) that i m running with.. u have it all wrong on when i joined and i wont even reply to whatever u ranting about..

just get your facts right first

and i ll ignore the insults too.. (even though i shouldnt but i feel like good atm)

Originally Posted by dsadada

averge lol i can name a couple from each class that im sure can have there spot on the top 10 in that class on all servers

Did you count the Germans as well? I mean, there are 9 classes in total and there are definitely at least 90 elite German raiders around. I can't see how the people from our server would actually fit in the top 10 lists like that.

Originally Posted by lagg

even though u wanna make it personal oldin, i ll play along (cause some ppl on this childish server would consider me schooled if not)..

1st of all explain to those who dont know u for the ragequitter that u proved that one day we grouped that u are. Tell em how when u pulled aggro in shadow boss, even when u know about the bpe debuff and i had just picked with a challenge starting to stack aggro from zero, that u did a heartseeker just when my force taunt ended (one of your greatest works btw...) and then RAGEQUIT immediately (as if u did it on purpose)(even on some of your friends as i recall).. PRO tip btw.. A ####### like yourself and any other fool that was given a bazooka can easily pull aggro from the best tank when bladebrothered with ob up etc even without the bpe debuffs.. Anyway this isnt a pissing competition.. Learn to play along with your group and then come judge me.. For the record once u dropped we did it just fine on the next go without a single problem. So i guess i was the tanks fault..

2nd i beg of u next time before rushing to post some utter bs give it a 2nd read and see what i posted.. u can see the correlation LOL.... i didnt say anywhere that because we have old pcs or arent fluent in english that we are elite raiders.. so please dont paraphrase me. i said it may be the reason we arent the best. And honestly i m not dilluted. i may not even be the best tank on the server. But i ll let ppl who know how to play in groups and understand how aggro works and that there may be taunt misses or when to output their highest dmg spike or even give it another shot and work around in a unique environment, judge me...

3rd go ahead support your buddy as much as u want in calling yourselves average.. then i get the right to call u average too right???.. but it doesnt give u the right to call others average does it?

4th if it is a matter of time i ll give u 2-3 more years to learn your class.. maybe by then u learn to read debuffs on your target and when to output your dmg spikes. who knows maybe by then u ll learn how to stick with a group and work together and not ragequit

5th i m not here to waste my time with you.. so play the fricking game and if u wanna consider yourselves a failure talk only for yourselves. i proved my worth over and over again in many raiding groups..

so i honestly dont care what u think about yourself. just dont post bs about ohters. and no that i ll support my friends when someone calls em average

btw lets let the deeds speak for themselves.. yep guess i m a failtank.. havent soloed saruman t2 yet..

1)Well I think you lost all credibility when you said that I used heartseeker LOL. I think everyone on the server knows I would rather use agile rejoiner than Heartseeker. Secondly, i dropped because I had 20 minutes to get ready for class and we had just pulled in a 6th or 7th agi user. I've spent waaaay to many runs until 3-4 AM wiping while not rage quitting somehow. Also, I didn't drop right away, that's a joke. Also, didn't have blade brother. I pulled toward the middle of the fight. If you want to remember the facts at least try to remember them correctly...And congrats to you for doing fine in Shadow t1 after I left, uber leet. The reason I joined that run was so I could try to figure out what all of the fuss was regarding the 3-4 raid groups you ##### yourself out to. Turns out there was no fuss.

I find it funny that you want to insult me for my loyalty/whatever, when you raid with the flavor of the week. Where were you when everyone was working like crazy on Lightning? Seems to me you joined just in time to loot the chests, no?

2)I'm 100% certain I know how aggro works more than you do. That's why I can do 3300 dps in acid challenge and not pull and you can't hold aggro off me in endurance.

3) I am average. You are not even that.

4)I know my class. I consider myself a very good hunter for this server. Sadly that's not saying much.

5) Trust me, we know all to well how many raid groups you've been a part of. Loyalty!

This is how I feel about this thread now:



Special thanks to Shoop for the pic. :3

Here are my two favorite parts:

Lagg: ps3. i ll prob wont reply to this again.. (go ahead, give it your best shot)

Medo: i knew u where trolling but answer a troll is way under my lvl
but for u this time i will answer

From the above, we can see that you both realize EXACTLY what you're doing and that this conversation is pointless, but you're doing it anyway, while telling everyone that you're not. Whyyyyy? D:

On a lighter note, I just noticed that the guardians are Challenging each other and using as many Vexing Blows as they can, the burg threw a couple Tricks on 'em, the dps are pew-pewing them from the side (with a particularly devastating crit from Oldin), and here I am, trying to get my inductions off before a GM tells us the instance is bugged and they have to lock the thread. :|

This is a sad thread. It was started to build cooperation between people and has become a name calling thread. Very disappointing. I wish they would close it.

Originally Posted by Cuuniyevo

On a lighter note, I just noticed that the guardians are Challenging each other and using as many Vexing Blows as they can, the burg threw a couple Tricks on 'em, the dps are pew-pewing them from the side (with a particularly devastating crit from Oldin), and here I am, trying to get my inductions off before a GM tells us the instance is bugged and they have to lock the thread. :|

Do not forget Estonian Runekeeper who already predicted the ending of this thread as those lorebreakers often do, but her Do Not Fall to Flame was apparently resisted en masse :S

Oldin yeah i may not remember much since your ragequit made the biggest impression on me. Just cause the loot chances werent good for you, after you wiped us. Grats... Btw u schooled me on hunter skills.. What u would use or did use is of little interest to me atm. Guess u picked aggro cause i lost it eh? Hmm wait u yelled that night and i remember perfectly: THIS IS BS. I WAIT FOR EVER TO START DPSING AND FIRST ATTACK I PICK AGGRO. Dare u deny this? (some of that group are still around here).. The others (some pretty good hunters too) were dpsing just fine from the start up to that point..

Again if u knew how aggro works u wouldnt even dare to talk to a guard (even a fail one) about shadow boss and tank switching while moving out of purple clouds..

If u comparing acid boss (or any other) with shadow boss on that particular one time then your argument is invalid..

As for the ******

For the record.. I ve been in Razors larry cause of Aghaborn, Erlessa, Razor (some of my friends that got me there). Razor himself is around and can explain why they stopped raiding.. I ve been in Koc's for a while following Erlessa, Raveneye and other friends until my life got upset and I had to join the army. When I got back months later the KoCs werent around. So I joined FC where Castielle Godlesswickedcreep Erlessa Lofarr (friends again) until a bad incident went down with a friend of mine. So i joined Castielle in Asylum (even though i think we had just cleared saruman with FC). All this time i ve been in OTR my kin of friends. My loyalty is to my friends.. Not to the flavor of the month. Not the winning group of the month (yeah happened some times to be in the best groups).

I should let others speak for myself but some arent even around anymore. Some others arent paying attention to forums like i used to do before i posted just for fun on this.. Some may even hold their tonque waiting on when this stops cause i wanna believe instead of doing good to the server we drag it down with us.

Anyway. All these raiding groups were successful. Great players all of them i wont argue. They carried this less than average tank to great accomplishments. I was just losing aggro while we completed all the end game raids..

Guess there werent any less than average tanks around to pick from eh?
Wait how did they all put up with my lack of skills but still kept running with me until we couldnt run anymore together as a group for irrelevant to my lack of skills reasons?
All this good groups picked this sell out guard for what? My lack of skills?

I hate to talk for them but here it is:

Most of them are my friends to this day and noone ever said anything bad about my skills. Au contraire. And that honours them cause they either such good friends that they lied to me and carried me while i kept them back but somehow we still completed raids (and i wish that was the story cause i d take that everyday over you calling me even the best guard ever existed..) or i guess i m not less than average..

I ll let the others judge while u can keep your feelings ofc just dont post em here so i dont have to reply cause ppl are already complaining with a good point.

+1 to lock this thread and medo can start a new one to get replies for f/f t2c like it was originally intented

I m really sorry i had to reply but i dont take insults well (stout calling us average, oldin supporting the statement with a personal attack, and a misunderstood joke about medo being a failtank (focus on the ) that turned him bitter and insulting)

I m being defensive of my friends value and will always do so.