Thread: Blood of Fire Question

I've been looking at the differences Champion's "Exchange of Blows" and Orc's "Blood of Fire", and I have a question because I cannot actively test BoF myself (I don't creep).

Before I go on, I would like to clarify that this is NOT a thread about balance between the two, it is merely a question about mechanics I would like answered so I may better myself as a player

Ok, so, BLEEDS.
I've checked and confirmed several times that bleeds of any kind are not reflected by EoB (traited to include shadow + fire damage), though I've noticed in some fights that reavers are reflecting my rend/deep strikes. I'm not asking if this is WAI, just if it's a correct observation. I just don't wanna trait deep strikes against reavers if they'll end up reflecting more damage back at me xD

If you're losing in a legit fight to a reaver....you're doing it wrong

Originally Posted by big_boi198

If you're losing in a legit fight to a reaver....you're doing it wrong

Ranked reavers can still win if they can properly turn and kite when needed. It just takes a higher caliber player.

Also deep strikes bleed DOES NOT reflect damage on to yourself from the reaver/defiler. Only direct hit damage does, so skills + auto attacks do. The best way for you to combat the reflect is a 2h weapon (less hits, less reflects), and hit them hard (have a decent amount of might/PM).

Originally Posted by big_boi198

If you're losing in a legit fight to a reaver....you're doing it wrong

I didn't say I was. How does that relate to my post at all? I was hoping a reaver could simply answer my question. Or a defiler for that matter.

Originally Posted by aad0italian

Ranked reavers can still win if they can properly turn and kite when needed. It just takes a higher caliber player.

Also deep strikes bleed DOES NOT reflect damage on to yourself from the reaver/defiler. Only direct hit damage does, so skills + auto attacks do. The best way for you to combat the reflect is a 2h weapon (less hits, less reflects), and hit them hard (have a decent amount of might/PM).

Thank you for actually answering the question

Originally Posted by aad0italian

Ranked reavers can still win if they can properly turn and kite when needed. It just takes a higher caliber player.

If the champ is equally skilled but likes to use his cooldowns the reaver won't win.

But yeah, I read somewhere that having a 2H for a champ is much better because dual weilding hits more times (auto attacks too) which means you are getting hit more.

Originally Posted by Stevo6

If the champ is equally skilled but likes to use his cooldowns the reaver won't win.

But yeah, I read somewhere that having a 2H for a champ is much better because dual weilding hits more times (auto attacks too) which means you are getting hit more.

It's usually in 1v1 circles that I even consider this, meaning no bubbles/athelas/direneed.

Anyway, I've always used a 2h so now worries there, was just curious about the mechanics of the reflect. I know it doesn't make that big of a difference, but every bit counts

Well it's 46 per hit I think, unaffected by mits. So you hit a creep 10 times and you lose 460 morale. If its a tough, long fight then it will make a difference.

Originally Posted by Stevo6

Well it's 46 per hit I think, unaffected by mits. So you hit a creep 10 times and you lose 460 morale. If its a tough, long fight then it will make a difference.

Yeah, back in the day before I started using 2h sword when reaver fights were neck and neck every single time, I did a parse on damage and the reflect did nearly 2k damage on me...That was hands down the reason for switching 2h and I've never looked back.