I don't see a reason to ever subscribe for PvMP -- (but Jess! You can subscribe for so much more! /shove it.) -- when its unbalanced as is, and my main's class hasn't been fixed in over a year.
Or did you know that already? Whoops. Carry on Riddermarkbronyians.<- Yes, new term coined just for you.
Also, if you can give me a decent reason to roll a creep (besides the sarcastic comment that I already am one) I still probably won't. You're welcome to try though.
Let the real PvP begin, below.
Lol, I don't even care to redownload the whole client to fix the one corrupted file.
That is assuming of course that we would want you to creep,
I have enough trouble with the "QQ my hunter is broken QQ" Threads/Glff chatter without adding an element of "QQ my creep is broken QQ" from you jess.
Lots of hunters have success in the Moors, I don't see why you bother crying about the class. You just use it as an excuse and people know that so this thread is just weak. If you had any gumption about ya you would bring your not broken warden out here. OH but then you would find an excuse about that and go on and on and on some more about how people report you because your skill is so great and you can tank three trees at once.
I don't see a reason to ever subscribe for PvMP -- (but Jess! You can subscribe for so much more! /shove it.) -- when its unbalanced as is, and my main's class hasn't been fixed in over a year.
Or did you know that already? Whoops. Carry on Riddermarkbronyians.<- Yes, new term coined just for you.
Also, if you can give me a decent reason to roll a creep (besides the sarcastic comment that I already am one) I still probably won't. You're welcome to try though.
Let the real PvP begin, below.
Roll creepside for the LOLs. Seriously, you will see and hear some funny sh$t. I can't argue that's you will likely die lots but just roll with all the rez circle visits, make fun of noobs, and don't take anything that happens seriously.
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I don't see a reason to ever subscribe for PvMP -- (but Jess! You can subscribe for so much more! /shove it.) -- when its unbalanced as is, and my main's class hasn't been fixed in over a year.
Or did you know that already? Whoops. Carry on Riddermarkbronyians.<- Yes, new term coined just for you.
Also, if you can give me a decent reason to roll a creep (besides the sarcastic comment that I already am one) I still probably won't. You're welcome to try though.
you don't need better arrows you need to fire more of them! and use your melee skills only nubs don't. learn skill execution orders. umm.. think that's it. more QQ please!
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Will someone explain to me what is so wrong with hunter? I played one for about a year, and I found nothing to be wrong with the class when it is played correctly. The classes that I see complain the most are hunters, yet I never really hear valid arguments as to what is wrong with it.
Imho, we don't need anymore QQers, and people with bad attitudes in Ettenmoors. We have more than enough already.
Well, that's just 1 yellow trait, and it's probably nice to have, especially if you're running solo.
Actually no. I was trolling.
I love it when hunters trait for stealth track... such a complete WASTE of a class trait slot. You can always tell a bad hunter when you've been tracked. When I get tracked, I immediately know it's some raidbaby and that I will be attacked by at least two or (most likely) more players. I have yet to be tracked and find that the hunter which tracked me actually wanted a good solid one-on-one fight (and I don't mean track me outside EC and pewpew me from NPCs..).
A good, solo hunter would never give up 1 class trait slot for the track trait... do I really need to explain this?
I love it when hunters trait for stealth track... such a complete WASTE of a class trait slot. You can always tell a bad hunter when you've been tracked. When I get tracked, I immediately know it's some raidbaby and that I will be attacked by at least two or (most likely) more players. I have yet to be tracked and find that the hunter which tracked me actually wanted a good solid one-on-one fight (and I don't mean track me outside EC and pewpew me from NPCs..).
A good, solo hunter would never give up 1 class trait slot for the track trait... do I really need to explain this?
Personally, I sorta like that trait. Doesn't matter what class I play, creepside or freepside, I use trackers for one sole purpose: find my prey. I don't track to protect myself, I track so I can find a target to hunt down. I use it offensively, not defensively.
But I can see your point. Using it to track someone in a keep is pointless and...dare I say it? Cowardly. But it's easy to fix. If the tracked target turns out to be in a keep or low on health, one should simply walk away or track someone else when the CD is up.
Pardon me if I'm being Captain Obvious here or misinterpreting you. Long tiring day = mind in a fog.
I rarely ever trait Heightened Senses because of what you need to give up for it. Almost every hunter will have atleast 3 blue (Strong Draw, RA, and Fast Draw) and 3 red (Deadly Precision, Swift and True, Critical Eye, Barbed Fury, or True shot depending on the build of the hunter). Now traiting the 1 yellow over a 4th red or blue will give up either +4% ranged damage and 10% pen shot crit chance or -8% inductions and +20% quick shot chance to give +1 focus. Really not worth knowing where a warg is when they just run as soon as they get tracked.
I rarely ever trait Heightened Senses because of what you need to give up for it. Almost every hunter will have atleast 3 blue (Strong Draw, RA, and Fast Draw) and 3 red (Deadly Precision, Swift and True, Critical Eye, Barbed Fury, or True shot depending on the build of the hunter). Now traiting the 1 yellow over a 4th red or blue will give up either +4% ranged damage and 10% pen shot crit chance or -8% inductions and +20% quick shot chance to give +1 focus. Really not worth knowing where a warg is when they just run as soon as they get tracked.
Firstly, thread successfully derailed :].
Secondly, that kind of optimization may be great for 1v1 circles, but -- and I know this phrase irks a lot of people -- out in the wild it can often be the case that you'd gladly give up an extra 40 damage (4%) on a 1,000 damage crit and +10% penshotspamcritchance to be able to seek out and destroy some wargs. Wargs are so plentiful, and can, one imagines, be such a pain, that a small sacrifice in damage output might be worth it, to be able to get the jump on your enemy (or to avoid a certain area, if you notice, say, 9 wargs on track).
Of course, none of this applies if all you do is 1v1 and camp the slugs at grams.
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Please explain this , Akara. Not trying to say you're wrong, because I haven't played hunter in years.
Meleo and LBF know what's up:
Originally Posted by Guhrik
I rarely ever trait Heightened Senses because of what you need to give up for it. Almost every hunter will have atleast 3 blue (Strong Draw, RA, and Fast Draw) and 3 red (Deadly Precision, Swift and True, Critical Eye, Barbed Fury, or True shot depending on the build of the hunter). Now traiting the 1 yellow over a 4th red or blue will give up either +4% ranged damage and 10% pen shot crit chance or -8% inductions and +20% quick shot chance to give +1 focus. Really not worth knowing where a warg is when they just run as soon as they get tracked.
^this.
I don't even carry trackers on my creeps (actually I bought a few on my WL so I can know if there's a freep camping HH and I can get a headstart on running lmao :P) because the quarry runs away or restealths 95% of the time. As LBF said... I don't see the point in tracking something that will just restealth or run away... and I especially wouldn't give up a class trait for it
Even I LOS and restealth when I get tracked from an unknown source. Not going to risk sitting there with a track on me when it could be a group tracking me or being called out in OOC...
...I only ever keep my track and actually get a fight when I'm watching the hunter do the animation to track me... and I end up attacking him/her immediately after I get the "You feel as though you are being followed...":
I rarely ever trait Heightened Senses because of what you need to give up for it. Almost every hunter will have atleast 3 blue (Strong Draw, RA, and Fast Draw) and 3 red (Deadly Precision, Swift and True, Critical Eye, Barbed Fury, or True shot depending on the build of the hunter). Now traiting the 1 yellow over a 4th red or blue will give up either +4% ranged damage and 10% pen shot crit chance or -8% inductions and +20% quick shot chance to give +1 focus. Really not worth knowing where a warg is when they just run as soon as they get tracked.
Fast Draw is Red, Deadly Precision is Blue.
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You can always tell a bad hunter when you've been tracked. When I get tracked, I immediately know it's some raidbaby
A good, solo hunter would never give up 1 class trait slot for the track trait... do I really need to explain this?
Parabolical and I, find ######## wargs all the time with his track. Granted it doesn't catch any decent player, but at least we make them blow a CD from track.
Also I wasn't aware of your trouble with tracks in the moors. Without a screenshot to verify I almost doubted you
If I'm standing alone inside EC, and I walk out to see 5 or 6 creeps by the bridge, HOW exactly is it fun for me to have all 6 of them attack me at once?
That there is a good point. But if you know that they are waiting for you at EC why do you keep returning to that spot.
When I know OC is being watched or camped, I don't keep going there unless I think I can beat the campers.
That there is a good point. But if you know that they are waiting for you at EC why do you keep returning to that spot.
When I know OC is being watched or camped, I don't keep going there unless I think I can beat the campers.
Sometimes, you just don't know. I'm not going to sit at GV and see who is where. I have to be honest, my first destination is always EC. It's been that way since before those lame walls were put up. Sometimes, you just don't know who is there until you get there.
I have actually come out of EC, walked up to the creeps, waved, sat down, and THEN been attacked.
Since when does it take guts to play a video game? There are freeps in the moors, outside of EC, not grouped with 23 others, quite often. These generalizations about how people play this game are starting to slightly aggravate me.
If someone wants to sit in EC, why does anyone else care? I'm not sure what everyone is so grouchy about. I had a blast all weekend, on both sides, grouped and ungrouped. If the way other people play can affect you (you being anybody who's grouchy, not necessarily the author of the post I quoted) so negatively, why not find some other way to spend your time?
The Ettenmoors is what you make of it.
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The post you quoted was mainly meant as a reply to Sparkthrower (who is that anyways?) who accused creeps of not having any guts (ie being afraid to die). I personally don't care if anyone hides in EC/GV/TA/TR/LC/Isen/OP.
I have to be honest, my first destination is always EC. It's been that way since before those lame walls were put up.
u know better than to do this ;D SO, if you won't change that, try riding from around the back (from cows), then zerg (1 man zerg) any creep standing on the road btw bridge and ec...b/c they are watching EC door, take them unawares then ####. Riding into the front door is so 2007
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Couillon, Couillon, Couillon, my dear man. That would be a tactic, or strategy. Most people in the Moors are "See Freep/Creep, kill Freep/Creep". That level of thought would strain most players.
Truth is, you and I know there are many more ways to find fights in the moors. EC/OC is always a staring contest.
On the topic of Hunters, there are broken aspects of the Hunter class. None of the breaks make them unplayable in the Moors in any scenario though. You can function Solo, Grouped or Raided if you know how to. I personally haven't taken the time to learn to solo on my Hunter. But, I have fought with and against many Hunters who have.
My suggestion to the OP is roll your Warden out with all the big bad Creeps and show your skillset. Also, well done PvMP troll. You have succeeded in creating a 4 page thread that you really don't care about one way or the other.
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