Thread: Good swords to look for?

Are there any particularly good swords for LMs to look for from lvl 50 up? I've been using the lvl 50 Class quest reward sword up 'til my present lvl 64 and even though it does Light damage, it's max damage at 86 is getting long in the tooth.

Don't feel like I particularly need any more in-combat power regen. Get plenty from my two legendary items and maybe from my lvl 58 jewelry as well. Mostly solo questing is what I do and most of that blue to me as I try to explore every area. Even the few "power battery" fellowships I've done didn't run into power issues. (Think the power hangup is from my Hunter that I run for max damage and buffing him with ICPR to avoid power issues).

Will is decent I suppose at 644 with Fate 470, Vitality 319 and morale of ~3900. Perhaps I need to look for more max morale and Vitality in a sword to get that up some.

At your level, The Sword of a Thousand Riddles isn't bad as an easy to obtain solo quest reward.

If you know a friendly crafter, then you could try a Flawless Galadhrim Sword of Tactics

At 65 I remember using Ithillang but that only drops in Ost Dunhoth raid. As does Thaliongrist on Tier 2.

After that you are into Dunland and will be quickly replacing your hard won gear (including swords) with a lot of yellows and purples which give a lot higher stat bonuses and be cursing about it until you reach cap and can start crafting/grinding the current set of L75 teals.

There are quite many one handed swords available for LMs after level 50.....one is the crafted lvl 51 blue sword of tactics....and there are various quest rewards too...

Personally I used Erymbes' Sword for quite a long while.....many months into being lvl 65... (till I got Amdillang)

Oh and there is this one too Peerless Thain's Sword of Tactics

I'd be interested to know if there are some good swords too. I occasionally inspect a high level Loremaster to see what they're carrying, but most of the time it seems to be a bog-standard Sword of Tactics.

Always worth a shufti over the AH to see what's being crafted or sold, there can be some occasionally viable world drops and the multi output crafted gear can have some good bonuses. Forget the actual dps and damage types, they add very little to your output, all you are interested in are stats.

ICPR comes back into significance in longer group play if it becomes an issue and can be buffed with Fate which also buffs your critical rating although neither buff as much that was as genuine +ICPR and +crit rating stats. Check out the offerings from factions as well although the Eriador faction stuff has become rather low level there could be something from the dwarfs in Moria.

Originally Posted by Mithithil

Forget the actual dps and damage types, they add very little to your output, all you are interested in are stats.

Actually it is important....in all dps parses I've done, autoattacks have more than often stood as our second highest damage causing skill...only behind either Improved Staff Strike or Burning Embers (whichever crits). Autoattacks contribute a very huge chunk of our dps contrary to popular belief....

And in most instances other than tough content like Tower of Orthanc.......solo or anywhere where we're in dps role, LMs can and should be in melee range, using melee skills...

There is a nice sword that drops from the Waterworks final boss but I forget it's name. Good PR bonus.

I really like Amdillang at 65. All you need is 5 minutes through Sword Halls.

Or if you don't mind common damage, Fated Calenard Assault Sword is available at 66.

Originally Posted by silverblade5445

Actually it is important....in all dps parses I've done, autoattacks have more than often stood as our second highest damage causing skill...only behind either Improved Staff Strike or Burning Embers (whichever crits). Autoattacks contribute a very huge chunk of our dps contrary to popular belief....

And in most instances other than tough content like Tower of Orthanc.......solo or anywhere where we're in dps role, LMs can and should be in melee range, using melee skills...

Last time I checked the auto attack from the staff did a lot, that from the sword does very little, hence my comment. To be fair, if the weapon does, eg, Beleriand damage, you will up the rate a smidgen, but I stand by the idea that the sword is primarily a buff device and vonus Will, for eample, by adding to Tac Mastery will do way more tac damage than the weapon itself in melee.

And yes, if its sensible to do so you should be in there walloping with the staff, and using sweep whenever its up.

Originally Posted by sarlinspellweaver

I'd be interested to know if there are some good swords too. I occasionally inspect a high level Loremaster to see what they're carrying, but most of the time it seems to be a bog-standard Sword of Tactics.

If you're talking about level cap swords, these are the choices. Personally I'd say it's basically a wash between the two crafted swords for raiding (great river is marginally better, but Theodred sword has about 40 more ICPR which is one of our better raid stats), while Hanglang is clearly the best for pure DPS.

Polished Great River Sword of Insight

128.1 DPS Beleriand
+32 Will
+337 Maximum Morale
+88.8 in-Combat Power Regen
+336 Critical Rating
+336 Tactical Mastery Rating

Steadfast Sword of Theodred

111.6 DPS Common
+29 Will
+29 Fate
+316 Critical Rating
+302 Maximum Morale
+108 in-Combat Power Regen

Hanglang

126.9 Beleriand
+64 Will
+64 Fate
+340 Critical Rating
+340 Tactical Mastery Rating

The two T2 orthanc swords, Ithilwegil and Celegmagol have mixed survivability/DPS stats.

There is another ToO sword from Shadow NM, pretty nice for DPS:



I've been looking for a morale/vit/ICPR based sword for raiding, but no luck so far. Great river is probably best when it gets un-nerfed.

Originally Posted by Tarenius

There is another ToO sword from Shadow NM, pretty nice for DPS:



I've been looking for a morale/vit/ICPR based sword for raiding, but no luck so far. Great river is probably best when it gets un-nerfed.

This is the sword I'm after. Got pretty excited when Ithilwegil dropped, then Celegmagol, now looking to upgrade for DPS a bit further with Manavagol..

ohh, hadn't seen that one before. It's a straight upgrade from the one that drops from Saruman... the itemisation in this game is so bad!

outside of drop swords, if you're a weaponsmith or are friendly with one and have the rep, the critted Mirkwood recipe swords are pretty decent at 65 - especially the Malledrim Sword of Force. http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Weapo...Sword_of_Force

My only wish is that this sword looked as cool as its sister sword, the Malledrim sword of Defence http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Weapo...ord_of_Defence - It's all curvey and elvish, if you're into that kind of thing - stats though are more for agility types.

I used the Malledhrimsword of Defense a really long time.

For me it is much better than the Malledhrimsword of Force. For me agility(for melee) and ICPR>>crit. But I'm not the kind of MoNF-guy.

Originally Posted by PsychobabbleJJ

ohh, hadn't seen that one before. It's a straight upgrade from the one that drops from Saruman... the itemisation in this game is so bad!

I like this one too, for the Vit and TacMast.:

Deadly Straight Sword of the Brute
Bind on Equip

One-handed Sword
187 - 311 Beleriand Damage
131.1 DPS
+34 Fate
+67 Vitality
+352 Critical Rating
+704 Tactical Mastery Rating
Weaken: Opponent's power is transferred to you some of the time.
Attacker gains Power
Target is drained of Power
Durability 100 / 100

Normal
Minimum Level: 75
Worth 20 73

Originally Posted by ElenEstel

I like this one too, for the Vit and TacMast.:

Deadly Straight Sword of the Brute
Bind on Equip

One-handed Sword
187 - 311 Beleriand Damage
131.1 DPS
+34 Fate
+67 Vitality
+352 Critical Rating
+704 Tactical Mastery Rating
Weaken: Opponent's power is transferred to you some of the time.
Attacker gains Power
Target is drained of Power
Durability 100 / 100

Normal
Minimum Level: 75
Worth 20 73

Wow where does this drop?.....Saruman?


P.S. - Nice custom sig btw

I know the recipe dropped from Orthanc...I *think* it was Saruman, but I'm not 100% certain. (Naturally, it's a one-shot recipe, so you'd naturally be well advised to get a Westfold Journal first).

Originally Posted by Casilune

...Naturally, it's a one-shot recipe, so you'd naturally be well advised to get a Westfold Journal first.

you won't believe it (or probably you do)
for not ruining the attempt, i got the westfold journal AND the lore-scrolls for increased crit.
together with the best tools around the critchance was =63 %.

... and it did naturally not crit, *sigh*

you gotta love crafting!

Originally Posted by ElenEstel

you won't believe it (or probably you do)
for not ruining the attempt, i got the westfold journal AND the lore-scrolls for increased crit.
together with the best tools around the critchance was =63 %.

... and it did naturally not crit, *sigh*

you gotta love crafting!

Scroll of the Ages could have given you +9% if you could get one. These rare one use scrolls are about the first content I have seen where the use of one could be justified and with RoR so soon the gear will be obsolete in three months or less.

Originally Posted by ElenEstel

you won't believe it (or probably you do)
for not ruining the attempt, i got the westfold journal AND the lore-scrolls for increased crit.
together with the best tools around the critchance was =63 %.

... and it did naturally not crit, *sigh*

you gotta love crafting!

Fate is a most fickle mistress. I criticaled on my Journal, then Criticaled on my sword, then failed to critical on making a dagger for someone else.

I also looking for a sword for my new LM for lv75. I checked all in this page, but I think the book one is not a bad choice.
Daledh-cledhu
113.9DPS
60 Will
60 Vitality
54.6 ICPR
158 max moral.

Vita is good because miti/resist, will because power vs pure tact mastery.
I miss from the Manavagol some vitality, for T2 TOO maybe a little bit better sword not a big ask.
So actually I do not know exactly what I like to do. I can craft all sword include the Deadly Straight Sword of the Brute, that is not bad but first I earn a little bit more will before I drop 60. But now I feel the book one is my middle way choice.