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    Quick Shot Critical Chance

    I have 8.1k unbuffed of critical (19.7%), I ask if this is a good legacie to updgrade, and with the Rohan, if the critical cap goes to 30, or even 35%, This legacie will be a great thing to be used ?

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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    current crit cap is 25% however this legacy will take you over the crit cap (it's a soft cap). Max crit @ 25% + 5% legacy + 15% precision stance = 45% QS crit chance

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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    I have 20% critical chance, + 5% from legacie and + 10% from precision stance. So Even with the cap being 25%, this way i can go 35% ?

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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    I'm confused, what are these bonus percentages to crit chance from precision? I'm fairly certain there aren't any, there is a damage bonus in precision via legacy but that's not changing your chance at all, other than it lowers your chance to miss so presumably meaning more chances to hit and crit, depending how they do it. Or have there been some changes I am as yet unaware of?

    It is true though, if you managed to build yourself to 25% the QS bonus will go over that, and on top of that some clickys. Awesome legacy to have IMO if you play the Faron way.
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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    read your stance tooltips, each stance has a different effect on QS

    SS - increased slow chance
    PS - increased crit chance
    ES - moderately reduces threat

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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    Also, whatever they do in RoR that you're wondering about, we will have to get new LI's once we get to endgame, and if the past is any indication, we won't be able to pull legacies off of 75 weapons at 85, which shouldn't really effect your choice to use the legacy as once RoR hits, it won't really matter, anyway, based on what others have said, and my humble opinion, the legacy is indeed worth using both to get more crits on QS as well as to generate more focus through said crits.
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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    Quote Originally Posted by Catisa View Post
    read your stance tooltips, each stance has a different effect on QS

    SS - increased slow chance
    PS - increased crit chance
    ES - moderately reduces threat
    Ok, but where are you getting 15% from? cause that is huge. It see it does say increased though, for some reason I had forgotten about that, all I ever thought of QS as was an aggro dump in endurance when traited, which I haven't done in forever, not that it changes how I play, but I have buffed crit of 24.3% +5 +15..that would be nearly 45% crit chance..it crits a lot but doesn't seem that high. ..some people are saying 10%..I am still confused
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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    Quote Originally Posted by Fudoshin View Post
    Ok, but where are you getting 15% from? cause that is huge. It see it does say increased though, for some reason I had forgotten about that, all I ever thought of QS as was an aggro dump in endurance when traited, which I haven't done in forever, not that it changes how I play, but I have buffed crit of 24.3% +5 +15..that would be nearly 45% crit chance..it crits a lot but doesn't seem that high. ..some people are saying 10%..I am still confused
    Precision Stance gives 10% by itself and then you can get another 5% from a Major legacy on your bow/xbow:


    Dont forget the up to 10% devastate chance and the 30-50% chance of 1 bonus Focus as well, QS suddenly becomes a very nice tool for building loads of Focus

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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    Quote Originally Posted by DrumMajorC View Post
    we won't be able to pull legacies off of 75 weapons at 85
    Why do you say this? Right now, we can pull legacies off of level 65+ weapons and apply then to level 75 weapons.
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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    Quote Originally Posted by Nakiami View Post
    Why do you say this? Right now, we can pull legacies off of level 65+ weapons and apply then to level 75 weapons.
    Read the scrolls.. the max weapon level is 80 for legacies extracted from lvl75 weapons..

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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    Quote Originally Posted by Nakiami View Post
    Why do you say this? Right now, we can pull legacies off of level 65+ weapons and apply then to level 75 weapons.
    And I am pretty sure that a lvl 65 LI will not extract a scroll to lvl 75. I remember having to find a lot of lvl 66s+ to farm legacies. Could be that I am not remembering correctly though.

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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    Quote Originally Posted by rannion View Post
    Read the scrolls.. the max weapon level is 80 for legacies extracted from lvl75 weapons..
    It would appear that I was unclear in my first statement, this is in fact what I meant (just went and checked it myself)

    and I was responding to this original statement made by the OP:
    Quote Originally Posted by Bitho View Post
    and with the Rohan, if the critical cap goes to 30, or even 35%, This legacie will be a great thing to be used ?
    in that leveling the legacy now wont matter for RoR as we will toss whatever we are using out once we reach 85 and start over, although as in my previous post, I do advocate for its use for the reasons listed both by myself and others.
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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    Quote Originally Posted by Fudoshin View Post
    Ok, but where are you getting 15% from? cause that is huge. It see it does say increased though, for some reason I had forgotten about that, all I ever thought of QS as was an aggro dump in endurance when traited, which I haven't done in forever, not that it changes how I play, but I have buffed crit of 24.3% +5 +15..that would be nearly 45% crit chance..it crits a lot but doesn't seem that high. ..some people are saying 10%..I am still confused
    Do you have to trait for QS to lower threat in Endurance now? It was always a passive bonus to the stance before.
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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    Quote Originally Posted by Frisco View Post
    Do you have to trait for QS to lower threat in Endurance now? It was always a passive bonus to the stance before.
    It does work as a passive. You can see this by the three light blue lines that signal above the mobs head when you hit it with an endurance QS. (the opposite of a tanks three red lines as agro is being built) The problem is, just like everything else, they kind of didn't scale it properly for the amount of damage that we put out, now.

    A quickshot threat down is great when you're just hitting quickshot, but since we all have +x% crit on quickshot, it's hard to dethreat something that often crits over 2k I can still rip agro in Endurance with a threat down legacy and whisper draw, it just takes a fair bit longer. (And I don't blame my tanks.)

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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    Quote Originally Posted by Xilxlwrov View Post
    A quickshot threat down is great when you're just hitting quickshot, but since we all have +x% crit on quickshot, it's hard to dethreat something that often crits over 2k I can still rip agro in Endurance with a threat down legacy and whisper draw, it just takes a fair bit longer. (And I don't blame my tanks.)
    If that's the case, and I believe it since I've done it myself, you should be blaming the tanks.

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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    I still don't see where they tell us precision gives us 10%, is it just general knowledge from the past? anyway it doesn't matter that is what I have always used it for so it doesn't change how I play I'm just curious, I always thought it was just like the threat reduction value, something they say is there but may or may not work just like all kinds of other things in the past (set bonuses from armor etc)

    Sorry I didn't mean to give the impression you needed to trait threat down in endurance (funnily enough I knew about the lowered threat and and 40% slow from strength but had never paid attention to the crit increase) I just used to slot it way back in blind - one because his aggro was like a hair trigger, and I had more success with it slotted.
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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    If you are in precision mouse over the quickshot and you will have a critical chance of 10% plus whatever points you have in the legacy. For my it's 3%, so mine reads at 13% critical chance. Switch stances, and it reads 3%.

    As to blaming the tanks, from what I've heard since I started this game, you always blame the hunters, for everything. Even if it's something we have nothing to do with. Someone didn't get a cappy buff? Hunter's fault. Healer failed to heal a tank through the wall in Foundry T2? Hunter's fault.

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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    I love the extra crit i think you can get +65% crit above your normal crit rating then for every burg +6%

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    Re: Quick Shot Critical Chance

    Quote Originally Posted by Xilxlwrov View Post
    If you are in precision mouse over the quickshot and you will have a critical chance of 10% plus whatever points you have in the legacy. For my it's 3%, so mine reads at 13% critical chance. Switch stances, and it reads 3%.

    As to blaming the tanks, from what I've heard since I started this game, you always blame the hunters, for everything. Even if it's something we have nothing to do with. Someone didn't get a cappy buff? Hunter's fault. Healer failed to heal a tank through the wall in Foundry T2? Hunter's fault.
    God it goes to show, not playing hunter enough lol. Familiarity breeds contempt and all that, I see what you are talkin about, cheers
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