Discussion: Server Activity

I was a bit (pleasantly) surprised when I saw that of the 14 player-organized events for the Galloping Gala, 9 of them were on Landroval.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b..._events_en.png

But when I looked at the posts on the server-specific forums, it's clear that some servers are quite a bit more active than others.
This isn't meant in any way as a criticism of other servers; it's just an observation. [edited to clarify]

(Some are non-English servers, so that should be considered.)

[Edit: As others have noted, some servers are new, and some are non-English, and some only have data since the Codemasters transfer. All good points! If I have time, I'll try to produce an accurate comparison chart, just for fun. But in any case, my point isn't to say which servers are better - I really just want to encourage more activity from everyone. ]




I really want to encourage other players to participate in Turbine-sponsored events like the Galloping Gala. It was a lot of fun; I hope they do more.

We all like to whine about Turbine once in a while, but sometimes it's up to us, the players, to contribute too. I'm sure a lot of you didn't even know about the Gala. And there are no doubt thousands of players who never even visit the forums, and had no idea.

Next time, please consider leading an event on your server. It doesn't have to take a lot of work. Turbine provided prizes like forum titles, 500-TP codes, a mount code, etc.

My kin (The Palantiri) along with our allies (Valar Guild and Knights of the White Lady) organized a "Great Race" event, from the Party Tree to Rivendell. Along there way there were challenges like trivia, riddles, name-that-tune, cosmetic/title/emotes, etc.

I still have all the information about it in Google docs - and I'd be happy to share it with anyone (especially on other servers) who would like to lead a similar event.

See you in Middle-earth!

[updated to sort the servers in the chart]

Envoyé par Beleg

Next time, please consider leading an event on your server. It doesn't have to take a lot of work. Turbine provided prizes like forum titles, 500-TP codes, a mount code, etc.

My kin (The Palantiri) along with our allies (Valar Guild and Knights of the White Lady) organized a "Great Race" event, from the Party Tree to Rivendell. Along there way there were challenges like trivia, riddles, name-that-tune, cosmetic/title/emotes, etc.

I still have all the information about it in Google docs - and I'd be happy to share it with anyone (especially on other servers) who would like to lead a similar event.

See you in Middle-earth!

Very nice and very generous of you, Mosby! =^_^= And yes, we've love to see more player run events pop up. Even if we're not doing a big thing like the Galloping Gala, we still advertise the events every week in the Free Peoples's Press! (Which you should all read, by the way. Hint hint. :3)

[QUOTE=Beleg;6173269]
But when I looked at the posts on the server-specific forums, it's clear that Landroval is by far the most active. Brandywine and Elendilmir are doing well too. This isn't meant in any way as a criticism of other servers; it's just an observation.[quote]

Well, i beg to differ. You must take into consideration that some servers only joined this forums last June when the European Servers where shipped to Boston

Laurelin is a very active server. It was by far the most active server of the European servers. And if you considerar that Laurelin has (according to your data, good work mate! ^^) 10% of post that landroval in only 10 months, i think that is a very immpresive number

Edit: Well, only around 8%, my maths are as bad as my english xD

Envoyé par Araglad

Well, i beg to differ. You must take into consideration that some servers only joined this forums last June when the European Servers where shipped to Boston

Good point! I'll see if I can produce a more accurate chart, with that in mind!

I've heard good things about Laurelin too!

Just an observation but not all server forums started at the same time, former european servers didn't have forums here until the migration from Codemaster to Turbine, there's also been a couple new servers, and finally, german and french players are probably not using this site as much as English speaking players so the total number of posts in each server forum is not very meaningful as such.

Envoyé par Equendil

....and finally, german and french players are probably not using this site as much as English speaking players so the total number of posts in each server forum is not very meaningful as such.

It's true. In the Codemasters-Forum were much more active players. The german community has been shattered during the transfer to a variety of other forums. Many players who were once active in the forum to write only a little.

And there's a 2nd Problem: the announcement of turbine that they are looking for events was only in the english forum. There was no announcement from Turbine in the german or french part of the forum or in the launcher.

Envoyé par Thodorin

And there's a 2nd Problem: the announcement of turbine that they are looking for events was only in the english forum. There was no announcement from Turbine in the german or french part of the forum or in the launcher.

that is one of the reasons.
another are the (for most former eu players) not working my.lotro features

one thing i'm missing a lot is an active german/french community management.
e.g:
"The Free people Press" - also in a german & french version. <<-- that would give a nice feeling that the stuff we write in our forums is read by turbine. (the stuff in each version should be different)

somewhere in the english forums was a post about the german translations of the minstrel tooltips of their trait-lines, and the request to report the bugs. why is/was there no post like this in the german minstrel forum?

yeah lots of germans currently do not have the feeling to belong to the community.

Imladris is a very small server D:

Ok, I updated the chart.

I don't think it means all that much, but I'm posting for those who might be interested.

Obvious disclaimer: I think it's accurate, but there could always be bugs in how I gathered the data.

This one counts the number of threads (not posts) which have been updated since Jan 1 2012. It only looks at each server's main forum (not the Kinship/Trace/PvP forums).

As a lot of folks pointed out, the current state of non-English forums doesn't represent those communities very accurately.

Interesting to see all the activity on the test server. That indicates to me that the test community is actively doing its job -- let's hope Turbine will continue to improve on their QA process

I think that you are missing a lot of activity that goes on that is not noticed by other servers or Turbine. Turbine appears to only hype role playing and kin anniversery type activities. Considering that if a player is interested in role playing they will play on Landraval of course Landraval will get the majority of the free press. I wish that Turbines PR people would start to view other activites as worthy of their notice.

Just on Riddermaker there are two "activities" that I think should get mentioned but never had. The first is the open raiding program run by CWH. The program allows people who are interested in raiding but that do not belong to a raiding kinship a chance to raid. There was some talk of someone from Turbine interviewing the kin leader about the program but it never happened. The second is the player achivement runs that Saelyth puts together. He gets groups to run older raid content to help people complete deeds or just get a chance to see the content they didnt have a chance to do as they leveled up. Riddermark being one of the new servers means that the vast majority of the player base never got to do rift, dn or bg.

I am sure that every non role playing server can come up with a list of "activities" they run an a regular basis, from moors events to welcome new player days. I have played on other servers were kinships have things like handing out free low level gear or fellowhip move workshops. Its just that they are not role playing events so are considered part of the game rather then something that deserves special not by Turbine.

Before you say that other servers dont have activity first you need to define what you mean by activity. True Landraval has the most role playing activity but that does not mean the rest of the servers are dead, just ignored by Turbine. I would like to challange Turbine to prove me wrong and hype a few non role playing events.

Envoyé par Thodorin

It's true. In the Codemasters-Forum were much more active players. The german community has been shattered during the transfer to a variety of other forums. Many players who were once active in the forum to write only a little.

And there's a 2nd Problem: the announcement of turbine that they are looking for events was only in the english forum. There was no announcement from Turbine in the german or french part of the forum or in the launcher.

Or, they could use the in-game mail system to send a message to all kin leaders (and maybe successors). They could outline what the event is all about and provide an in-game means to contact someone to organize the event.

If they can't do this, all the more reason to scrap the third-party mail system and develop a better one.

Envoyé par ThistleRose3

I think that you are missing a lot of activity that goes on that is not noticed by other servers or Turbine...

Before you say that other servers dont have activity first you need to define what you mean by activity.

I certainly wouldn't want to imply that other servers don't have activities.

The Galloping Gala was not an RP activity by the way - it consisted of any type of player-organized activitites you wanted to do. Turbine just helped promote them, and provided the prizes. I think they wanted them to have something to do with horses, but I don't recall the details.

The Great Race that my kin helped organize for the Gala was not an RP activity. It was a race, with lots of different types of challenges.

I'm sure Turbine would be happy to advertise any type of events (RP or not), just let them know, so they can add them to the calendar.

As for the charts - that has nothing to do with RP either. It's just an indication of forum activity, which may or may not correlate with actual server activity.

Some of the activities you mentioned sound great. We do some of those too. I used to lead a Midnight Madness activity (midnight every Friday), where we'd run some of the very obscure content that most people never do. It was a lot of fun. It was mostly for kin, friends, and allies though. Not sure how you'd do something like that and make it open to everyone.

Any activity you wanted Turbine to highlight would probably have to be open and inclusive. Limiting it to a single raid might not be what they're looking for, I don't know.

Just to make it clear since the above poster was unclear. The things I listed are open to all players of the correct level and are not limited to a single raid but are ongoing activities that happen weekly.

Envoyé par ThistleRose3

The first is the open raiding ... program allows people who are interested in raiding but that do not belong to a raiding kinship a chance to raid.
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open to all players of the correct level and are not limited to a single raid but are ongoing activities that happen weekly.

Sounds interesting. I'm curious about some of the details - is there a link you could provide with more info?

Specifically, for a raid, how many experienced people do you mix with first-timers? I would think if you had mostly first-timers, it would mean an awful lot of wipes. So is it more like 50-50?

Also, do people sign-up for it? Or is it first-come, first-served?

Do you advertise it somewhere (like in /glff or something)?

Thanks!

Envoyé par Beleg

Sounds interesting. I'm curious about some of the details - is there a link you could provide with more info?

Specifically, for a raid, how many experienced people do you mix with first-timers? I would think if you had mostly first-timers, it would mean an awful lot of wipes. So is it more like 50-50?

Also, do people sign-up for it? Or is it first-come, first-served?

Do you advertise it somewhere (like in /glff or something)?

Thanks!

They do scheduling via their website, caughtwhitehanded.com and have a channel like /glff they use to pick up people if they're short for some reason or another.
I'd say its usually more like 8 regular/4 pug for their Tier 1 runs.
They do make a concerted effort to get new players into the runs if they express interest.

Apart from that program, I myself run regularly run pug all of the non-Saruman wings, and have started working on getting a pug of players through Saruman. Pug-Not Saruman: I generally take the first 11 players from glff who dont look like they're going to get oneshot, and are of a reasonable class make up. I do bring people in a mix of yellows and purples if they're sufficently virtued, which mostly means having enough max morale. I bring wierd class makeups. The people who I dont bring I'll point toward some gear they can acquire, or virtues they can work on so they'll be in a position to run it next time!

Pug-Saruman: Most of the players should not have Completed it before.
We're pugging to P5 currently.

If I may, French people don't use the official forums very much. Never did, actually (even when the servers were Codies').
Only a few of us lurk here and occasionnaly post in the french section, but the community has its habits elsewhere, on JeuxOnline (a french MMO information site - with tentacular forums), on lotro.fr (which provides useful tools for lotro such as a raid planner, a characters roster -now interfaced with data.lotro.com -, maps with PoI, and a forum) or else.
Events are actually organised (next week, there's a race on Estel ) but not advertised here, as no-one comes...

Regards,
Skro