Discussion: Alt level 40, need an area to play to 44

In my ignorance, I shopped Angmar. That is despite having been there while VIP and despite hating it for being almost purely brown on brown and heavily depressing. Went there at 39, ran out of level 43 quests at 40.

The passives removal means I miss and miss a lot, when facing red and orange mobs - and no finesse for any character until...58?

I do own Trollshaws but it's a pain to quest there. Perhaps I really must use it? It's like being cursed. Amazing boredom mixed with the occasional gut-wrenchingly badly balanced quest.

What other alternative is there, skirms aside?

I think Forochel starts at 46 (can reasonably go at 44 and first quests are 46), that I own and enjoy.

Eregion I think was 48+? With an interlude at Walls instance for LI at 45 earliest (but easier to go walls at 47 so that orc place can be easily finished - the Walls quest rewards are super nice for the level, as I recall it). Or does it start earlier? I may well remember wrong. I have the area anyway.

Lapsed VIP seems to be a lot of patchworking =)

I have... Moria Lorien Mirkwood Enedwaith and that isengard thingie.

Perhaps some area level scaled differently last I ran it. I was VIP and care-free...

Personally I wish they had fixed lvel 38-50 instead of Moria since I sail through Moria. I have done the run of levels 38-40 4 times now and have not yet found a smooth route. Everswim now to 38/40 (usually done all by 38 some say they easily get over 40). Then it is bouncing south trollshaws-angmar-misty-forochel doing bits and pieces until 45 then doing Legendaries. Then I go back to bouncing till 48 and get kin with Thorins for the goat. Then bouncing to 50 (now the deeds have been lowered in Moria to 48 it makes sense to go in then).

Ah yes, the infamous 38-42 drought. Of all the revamps done over the last six years, this gaping content hole remains. It's been massaged at the edges, but it's still a pain, especially if you don't have rest XP or don't have access to every zone in the range.

Suggestions:
Skirmish - At L40 you should have access to about half a dozen skirmishes (fewer if not VIP). Do these on-level for decent XP.
Evendim - Recently revamped to span levels 30-40 evenly. If you head straight to Annuminas, there is a decent amount of L40 content, perhaps half a level worth.
Misty Mountains - There's not much content there, but a handful of quests scattered between 39 and 42 might get you another half level.
XP Boosters - If you have spare TP or are VIP, getting an extra 25% off mob kills will definitely help in this range.

I hope whenever they get around to revamping Trollshaws they make it a strictly 38-42 zone to once and for all FIX this problem. Sure, it might not flow as well with Lone-Lands, but North Downs (Book 3) should be the next step after that (Book 2) anyway, even if it's geographically disconnected.

Envoyé par Yargesh

Personally I wish they had fixed lvel 38-50 instead of Moria since I sail through Moria. I have done the run of levels 38-40 4 times now and have not yet found a smooth route. Everswim now to 38/40 (usually done all by 38 some say they easily get over 40). Then it is bouncing south trollshaws-angmar-misty-forochel doing bits and pieces until 45 then doing Legendaries. Then I go back to bouncing till 48 and get kin with Thorins for the goat. Then bouncing to 50 (now the deeds have been lowered in Moria to 48 it makes sense to go in then).

Goat I hear one can rent at Moria start, even a quest to grab a basic (or so they say).

Indeed, Moria is compact and rather smooth, once you turned brightness/gamma up and got over the map problems. A breeze really.

I think when I did Forochel all the way through, it had start quest level 46. Of course, then I still had passives and didn't miss quite so much.

Envoyé par gildhur

good advice

Thanks =)

Your best bet would be to bounce between Echad Candellath in the Trollshaws, Aughaire in Angmar, and all of Misty Mountains. All of those areas are a pain to quest in because they require you to go all over the place without swift travels; but if you want to quest, those are your options up to level 45.

It might be less painful to do a few skirmishes every day to supplement the questing XP.

I agree with Gildhur; I hope they revamp an area to cover these levels. Either Trollshaws or Misty Mountains would work.

forochel is a horror. need do many q to get swift travel. need ride much to finish a q.

btw my way to lvl: on l30 evendim, l40 angmar west. reached l43 n still there r many q i didnt finish. but i went to eregion cos bored with angmar. (l48+ mobs..ok i do it with warden atm)

Hello, I have a question to and figured that I could just post on here. I have Angmar, Forochel, and Evendim. My question is the same as his, but where can I go and spend the least amount of money. Thanks!
Also did they do anything with Champs and Hunters since Isen came out that I should know about? Only level 39 hunt, and 20 champ, but is there anything different?

Envoyé par Drakojan

Hello, I have a question to and figured that I could just post on here. I have Angmar, Forochel, and Evendim. My question is the same as his, but where can I go and spend the least amount of money. Thanks!
Also did they do anything with Champs and Hunters since Isen came out that I should know about? Only level 39 hunt, and 20 champ, but is there anything different?

If you have Evendim, I'd make sure you've finished EVERYTHING there. After that, head to Angmar. Do all the quests and kill everything you see for xp. You should probably run all the skirmishes you have at least once daily as well. Angmar has a lot of content, but a lot of it is group content. Sometimes it's difficult to find groups, but not impossible. If you really work at it, you should be able to get to 45 with a bit of grind. (I really wouldn't recommend buying Trollshaws or Misty Mountains unless you have TP to burn.)

At level 45, most people go to either Forochel or Eregion (if you don't mind being under-level). Forochel is level 45-48, but it's a vast wilderness with hardly any swift travels, so it's slow-going. Eregion is for level 48-51. It is very quick and streamlined. Both zones are solo-friendly. If you're looking to save a buck, I'd get Eregion and go in under-level.

Alright, I was gonna buy more TP anyway, just in case there's a sale and because I want Warg and RK, so I'll get Eregion too. At what level should I go into Moria? And is VIP worth it?

I do not like any of the post 40 areas too much. There is plenty to do, its just a bit depressing and often tedious.

So what I do is tour the easy quests in several zones, which is impractical for a F2P person but not bad at all for a vip. I generally do the first 2 towns of forachel, the upper half of the trollshaws, the rivendell side of misty mountains, and the easy quests in angmar including the backside (past the statues) where you can get a whole level just off the dumb sword quest guys (kill 20 dudes with swords and take the swords to some nutjob at a statue). With all that I can usually eek out 45 which I head on into the moria intro then back outside of moria to do all that stuff with my new LIs....

but that would cost you a lot of TP for zones.
I hate to say it but doing all of angmar is a LOT of xp and will get you to 45. Forachel has enough to get to 45. The other zones are not quite enough without supplemental xp from farming mobs or skirms.


Moria is tougher, significantly. I would not go in at all until level 51, 50 at the lowest. Go in once to get your legendary class item, but come back out and do everything outside it first. The prob with moria is you will be fighting 2+ enemy more frequently, its very crowded with mobs, and for a soloable area is one of the toughest due to the mob density and mob difficulty.

Envoyé par Drakojan

Alright, I was gonna buy more TP anyway, just in case there's a sale and because I want Warg and RK, so I'll get Eregion too. At what level should I go into Moria? And is VIP worth it?

I thought 52 or so was a good level to start that zone (before the revamp). I've read that the first half of Moria is significantly easier now that it's been revamped, but I haven't seen it myself yet. You can start earning deeds in Moria at 47. Quest level starts at 50.

As for VIP being worth it, someone else will undoubtedly be able to give you a better answer, but I believe once you go VIP, you open up certain things for all your characters: gold cap removal, swift travels, all trait slots, etc. And even if you go back to premium, all that stuff stays open. Don't take my word for it though, I'd check to make sure. But if that's true, perhaps going VIP for one month to get you through this rough leveling patch may be worth it.

Alright, I'll try and get my champ to 37 and make a guard or get my warden to 37 so I'll be able to do all 3 during that month Thanks

Envoyé par Macroscian

In my ignorance, I shopped Angmar. That is despite having been there while VIP and despite hating it for being almost purely brown on brown and heavily depressing. Went there at 39, ran out of level 43 quests at 40.

The passives removal means I miss and miss a lot, when facing red and orange mobs - and no finesse for any character until...58?

I do own Trollshaws but it's a pain to quest there. Perhaps I really must use it? It's like being cursed. Amazing boredom mixed with the occasional gut-wrenchingly badly balanced quest.

What other alternative is there, skirms aside?

I think Forochel starts at 46 (can reasonably go at 44 and first quests are 46), that I own and enjoy.

Eregion I think was 48+? With an interlude at Walls instance for LI at 45 earliest (but easier to go walls at 47 so that orc place can be easily finished - the Walls quest rewards are super nice for the level, as I recall it). Or does it start earlier? I may well remember wrong. I have the area anyway.

Lapsed VIP seems to be a lot of patchworking =)

I have... Moria Lorien Mirkwood Enedwaith and that isengard thingie.

Perhaps some area level scaled differently last I ran it. I was VIP and care-free...

If you mean legendary Isengard, that gives you Trrollshaws and Eregion, as well as Angmar and Forochel that you bought, for 40s content. Forochel starts at 44, not 46, and the first settlement is easily doable at 41 - the next won't be so easy that far underlevel, but you can get one level out of that.

Echad Candelleth in Trollshaws is the only place in the region I actually like the questing, and is usually good for two levels or nearly so.

If you can stand it, the epic in Trollshaws and the Misties is a couple levels - I can't. Did it on two toons, which was enough - now I do books 1 and 2 and then pick it up again in Angmar.

You can get a leader quest from Orchalwe in Tinnudir to the Earthkin camp in Angmar, and that's another level.

Look for fedexs, vector quests, etc., and maybe the epic? I really love Angmar and I like Echad Candelleth as it's the only really good quest hub in Trollshaws, so not sure if I can help much, but that's at least a possibility. Angmar isn't horrible for the Earthkin or the Crannog stuff in Aughaire, or at least it goes really really quickly for those quests - you'll get there.

Have you been to the Tal Brunien area in the Trollshaws? A lot of folks miss this, and it may be just the bridge you need. It's a bit of a pain to get to... there's a path uphill before the Ford of Brunien but mostly I just swim downstream until I find packs of frogs. Aim for the stable point and you'll eventually find it.

Angmar or Annuminas to 42 then go to Forochel. It's a bit of a pain to get to, but it's a very fun area to level in. 45 head to Eregion, and then 47 - 48 you can do Moria if you want because with the new update, Moria deeds start at 47 instead of 50. Normally I will level in Eregion until 50 and then start actual questing in Moria simply because I like to spend as little time as possible (50 - 55) in Moria.

Envoyé par Shukar

Have you been to the Tal Brunien area in the Trollshaws? A lot of folks miss this, and it may be just the bridge you need. It's a bit of a pain to get to... there's a path uphill before the Ford of Brunien but mostly I just swim downstream until I find packs of frogs. Aim for the stable point and you'll eventually find it.

That, and when you open your level 40 box, one of the letters directs you right to it. It's a fun quest hub, which is surprising for Trollshaws - and it's got the best armour set for that level in the game, too.

Hi guys, i was reading this post and i figured a little problem for myself.

I do own a free FREE to play account, meaning i do myself a challenge to do it the highest level without paying anything. Im currently lvl 35, and was planning to farm all the turbine points by bashing in evendim and other 30-40 zones i do not own. My original plan was to buy forochel at lvl 40, and Moria after this, hoping i would have enough points by then.

But a lot of you are saying forochel is lvl 46 minimum, when i read on lotro store annotation it is lvl 40-50?

Is there a region i can buy for 595-695 points who can lead me from lvl 40 to the lvl i can begin Moria?

Thanks a lot

Envoyé par Fildrong

But a lot of you are saying forochel is lvl 46 minimum, when i read on lotro store annotation it is lvl 40-50?

Is there a region i can buy for 595-695 points who can lead me from lvl 40 to the lvl i can begin Moria?

I think Forochel quests start at 44.

But your quest is basically the whole point of this thread. There isn't a single zone that covers the 38-42 area, though there are multiple zones that cover 42-50. MM will get you part of the way, early Angmar will get you part of the way, Annuminas in Evendim will get you part of the way. But unless you want to start out fighting nothing but oranges, there isn't a single zone you can buy at 40 that gets you to 47-50.

Angmar will - I've done it. But I'm one of those strange folks who love Angmar (most people despise it). I took a toon through it doing only solo quests and the small fellow quests that could be soloed just to see if it can get you there, and it can - you can hit Angmar at 39 and quest there until 50.

But it does cost 795 points, and it's kind of like Moria - which I loathe, despise, and quit for two years when it was endgame because I couldn't stand playing there. Other people feel it's the best area in the game.

If you like Angmar, it's worth it - and don't forget the epics, many of which are level 50, and can get you quite a lot of experience. But if you don't love Angmar, you'll probably need to bounce around a bit - and I strongly recommend Echad Candelleth/Tal Bruinen (same area, it's called both things) for your early 40s in Trollshaws - it's the newest T-shaws area and the one they actually got right, it's great fun to quest in, and even though I have max guilded crafters in all professions, I take all my toons there in their early 40s for the armour/jewellry set - it's that good.

@forusrname: ok that u go on moria on l50-51 but it depends on class. i always did gates of moria on l45 (q is l50). was easiest with warden. (other i did rk+hnt) n entered on 47.

about areas: dont like forochel cos of travel. went there on high lvl only to do some q n get kin with >> world renown deed for horse.