Thread: Tactical Mitigation for Guardians :)

I would just like to know what the highest Tact Mit is "Supposedly" that has been Spotted.. Unbuffed .. The reason why is, I want to know if I need to make Adjustments to mine or not.. So can someone help me out a bit?

Highest on my guard was 21k, i got a SS of it but its not hosted.

Oh wow.. 21k.. Very Nice! Mine is only 16k Unbuffed at the moment.. I really dont see how I can get it any higher :P.. But Im pretty sure that mine is considered pretty high!

This is a good website to check how you compare with all of your stats

http://ttahvo.webatu.com/index.php

Unbuffed.. 16.5k's about the maximum you can get. No reason to get this high though, 15.5k will suffice, 15k if you run with a cappy who's got the motivating speech 600 tact mit buff, to get you capped. This is not counting the cappy r8 banner nor anthem of composure, 2 things that are more commonly seen in raids.
EDIT: buffed tact mit is an entirely different story obviously..

Well, really unbuffed, even with our lovely skill which give us 1500 tactical mitigation, it's between 12 and 15k.

It always depends on what we have to face.

Trash mob : 12k with 13k resistance and 13k P. Mitigation.

Too boss : 15k with 10k resistance and 12k P. Mitigation.

Buffed and geared with tactical mitigation stuff, I can go around 22k T. Mitigation. But what's the point as around 18k, you hit the 70% ^^.

Depending on how difference level penalties work, you'd need 20390 to hit 70% against a level 78 mob, and 21494 to hit 70% against a level 79 mob.

Well, I don't know where did you comes with this number. I'm not really good at math ^^.

But the number seems ok to reach... if you have the correct gear and LM near/on you

Originally Posted by moebius92

Depending on how difference level penalties work, you'd need 20390 to hit 70% against a level 78 mob, and 21494 to hit 70% against a level 79 mob.

Mitigation has no level comparison that I know of.

Originally Posted by Grusk

Mitigation has no level comparison that I know of.

Knowing is half the battle?

Edit: The main point I'm unclear on is if you can mitigate the level difference % penalty by going over the cap - i.e., if the level difference penalty is 2%, does getting a 72% mean that you have 72%, subtract the 2% and then you're capped at 70% or if you're capped to 70% and then 2% is subtracted. I'd test it, but, eh. Some day.

Originally Posted by moebius92

Some day.

Or someone with awesome gear on a level 72-74 :P

It's probably easiest for a light armour class to hit cap at that level with a bunch of buffs.

Then it'd come down to a very very simple test.



My (slightly educated) guess is that there's no reason to go over the cap.

Originally Posted by moebius92

Knowing is half the battle?

Edit: The main point I'm unclear on is if you can mitigate the level difference % penalty by going over the cap - i.e., if the level difference penalty is 2%, does getting a 72% mean that you have 72%, subtract the 2% and then you're capped at 70% or if you're capped to 70% and then 2% is subtracted. I'd test it, but, eh. Some day.

Nice work. My guess is a bit different: you use the attacker level to determine the ratings, including the cap, and then you deduce the level penalty. Which means that you have to go over the cap, but only very slightly to match the cap for level 78.

Originally Posted by PerinStone

This is a good website to check how you compare with all of your stats

http://ttahvo.webatu.com/index.php

That is an excellent site. How the heck do they do that. And does that show what your guard has currently traited?

Originally Posted by Grusk

Mitigation has no level comparison that I know of.

This is true.

I remember running CD at one point on my 75 guard to get some quest items for alts one time. I didn't have my mitigations capped at the time (I decided to wear RCD/healproc gear for sleepmode). The damage I was taking from some dots (lvl 50) were only being mitigated by the amount shown on the mitigation tooltip (50-60% or something; don't remember exactly as it was a long time ago), which is stated for lvl 75 mobs; where I assumed I would be at 70% (or at least a lot higher than the %value the tooltip stated) for these lvl 50-53 mobs. I discovered it was not so.

All in all; not sure if it is working as intended, as the tooltip states a percentage relative to opposing mob level, but mitigations are currently static and in line with what the tooltip states your %value to be. I'm assuming this works on mobs of higher level and not just lower, and that if you are able to reach 70% mitigation on your tooltip, it will apply to all mobs.

Originally Posted by SilverCentaur

That is an excellent site. How the heck do they do that. And does that show what your guard has currently traited?

From the looks of it, it shows what characters currently have traited and equipped.
I could be wrong, I'm making a guess.

The site is showing that my tactical mitigation is about 2k higher than average for my server (which makes sense since my traits are built around tactical mitigation) but showing below average armor rating, as well as not showing a block rating. I'm making this assumption based on the fact that I know my guard currently has a fish equipped as her main hand weapon and a mug equipped in her offhand weapon slot (which means she doesn't have a shield so no block rating can be calculated).

Originally Posted by Zerric

Highest on my guard was 21k, i got a SS of it but its not hosted.

What percentage is that? if you got xfire I would love a pic

Originally Posted by Muzzard

What percentage is that? if you got xfire I would love a pic

You'll hit the cap for Tact. mit at about 18.5k, so that should be 70% (overcapped).