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    Tactical mastery capped?

    I just hit 50 on my mini. I have 40% tac mastery. I eat some will food, turn on tale of heroism, still 40% tac mastery. The rating number goes up, but the % stays put. I was under the impression our stats were uncapped either with RoI or some update thereafter. What gives?

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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Maybe you're capped for your level? my tact mastery on my level 75 mini is ~80%.
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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    My mini in full PVP dps nuking mode has 112% :P

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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorebane View Post
    My mini in full PVP dps nuking mode has 112% :P
    :jealous-face: Seriously though, there's at least 1000 tac mastery rating going to waste from my gear, maybe more. Ima go take stuff off and see how much of my will/tac mastery is wasted.

    Update:About 120 of my 561 will is wasted. I can take my hat shoulders and cloak off before my tac mastery drops below 40%. Guess I'll start eating vit food and running tale of battle since more will isn't gonna make me hit any harder. Why is this stat capped at lower levels and not at 75? A gear upgrade with a ton more will on it isn't going to help me at all. I should be at 45-50% tac mastery with the gear I have. I gimped my vit a little in favor of will, to make me hit harder. Lo and behold, it's not making me hit harder. In fact, with my DPS legs maxed on my LI's, NOTHING will make me hit any harder at this point.
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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daec View Post
    Maybe you're capped for your level? my tact mastery on my level 75 mini is ~80%.

    I call BS on this, unless there is something I'm not understanding.

    The best mini in my kin with the best healing setup she can muster has MAYBE close to 60% increase in healing output. Via her tactical mastery increase.

    I refuse to believe that there is gear out there increasing your healing output by 80%.

    I'm sitting at 25k tact mast, and I still need about 4 -5 more upgrades to get myself to around 31kish, and that will only put me at about 56 - 57%.

    You would need about 60k tact mastery to have around 80%.

    Again, is this even possible?

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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Are you looking at the outgoing healing modifier or the tactical damage modifier when you hover over your tac mastery number? Healing caps at 40%, damage does not.

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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Quote Originally Posted by Azerog View Post
    Are you looking at the outgoing healing modifier or the tactical damage modifier when you hover over your tac mastery number? Healing caps at 40%, damage does not.
    My outgoing healing is capped at 30%.

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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Quote Originally Posted by Azerog View Post
    Are you looking at the outgoing healing modifier or the tactical damage modifier when you hover over your tac mastery number? Healing caps at 40%, damage does not.
    outgoing healing actually caps at 50%, not 40%

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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Outgoing Healing from Tactical Mastery caps at 50% and is subject to rather heavy diminishing returns; items that give a raw +% increase such as some buffs can get you past that temporarily.

    Tactical Damage from Tactical Mastery has no cap and increases in a practically linear manner.

    You can see both these percentages in the tooltip when you hover over your Tactical Mastery rating; usually the damage-% will be much higher than the healing-%. For great graphs from people who have actually put effort into solving these things, this thread. I have no idea why either would cap at 40% for you. :/
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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0987654321 View Post
    outgoing healing actually caps at 50%, not 40%
    Your outgoing healing bonus that is a product of your TM rating is capped at 50%. You can exceed this via, legacies, traits and trait line bonuses that add a "+X%" (not +rating). The number you see when hovering over your TM rating will never exceed 50% for outgoing healing though.
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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Quote Originally Posted by doug01 View Post
    Your outgoing healing bonus that is a product of your TM rating is capped at 50%. You can exceed this via, legacies, traits and trait line bonuses that add a "+X%" (not +rating). The number you see when hovering over your TM rating will never exceed 50% for outgoing healing though.
    yes, i am aware of this. i was jut correcting the poster i quoted as he had the wrong percentage.

    the biggest thing that i can think off of the top of my head that increases outgoing healing above 50% is song-brother. boosts it another 25%

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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Ah, yeah 50%. Sorry.

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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Anyone have a list/chart of tac mastery/out going healing caps by level? The level at which they become entirely uncapped interests me the most, but the ones in between would be nice to know.

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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yaarjyn View Post
    I call BS on this, unless there is something I'm not understanding.

    The best mini in my kin with the best healing setup she can muster has MAYBE close to 60% increase in healing output. Via her tactical mastery increase.

    I refuse to believe that there is gear out there increasing your healing output by 80%.

    I'm sitting at 25k tact mast, and I still need about 4 -5 more upgrades to get myself to around 31kish, and that will only put me at about 56 - 57%.

    You would need about 60k tact mastery to have around 80%.

    Again, is this even possible?
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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yaarjyn View Post
    I call BS on this, unless there is something I'm not understanding.

    The best mini in my kin with the best healing setup she can muster has MAYBE close to 60% increase in healing output. Via her tactical mastery increase.

    I refuse to believe that there is gear out there increasing your healing output by 80%.

    I'm sitting at 25k tact mast, and I still need about 4 -5 more upgrades to get myself to around 31kish, and that will only put me at about 56 - 57%.

    You would need about 60k tact mastery to have around 80%.

    Again, is this even possible?
    You're reading this wrong. 80% Tactical Mastery is for offensive skills. For Outgoing Healing, the cap is 50%. However much Mastery percentage you have, you have half of that in Healing, up to 100% Mastery and 50% Healing. At this point, more Mastery will only increase the Offensive percentage and Healing will stop at 50%.

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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moejo View Post
    Anyone have a list/chart of tac mastery/out going healing caps by level? The level at which they become entirely uncapped interests me the most, but the ones in between would be nice to know.
    I am pretty sure that there is only a cap (outside the 50% OH Cap) on characters under level 51. Once you pass level 50, all the caps go away.

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    Re: Tactical mastery capped?

    Quote Originally Posted by deeman25845601 View Post
    I am pretty sure that there is only a cap (outside the 50% OH Cap) on characters under level 51. Once you pass level 50, all the caps go away.
    You are correct. I hit 51 and now have nearly 50% tac mastery. I would stay and chat but I have an urge to go blow up some goblins.

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    Any numbers for new upgrade outgoing healing is still capped at 27,5k TM or this has changed ?

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    The cap for outgoing heal is for sure higher than 50%. At the moment I am Level 85, have >30000TM and ~53% outgoing heal. If i check the maximum will gain of the new set /Skirmishes jewelry I would expect 60% to be the new cap.

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    I have atm 2635 will, 32k tactical mastery and 125.1%tactical attacks/50.6% outgoing healing, and when to consider that I dont have got yet all the new things then will could reach close to 3k andoutgoing healing new cap should be 60%.

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    The cap on outgoing healing is 60% after RoR release.

    I don't remember if it was mentioned in the main release notes, but it was definitely included in the beta patch notes on Bullroarer.

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    Thanks you for information, this means then new cap is around 38 TM aprox.....

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    Yesterday i went in the moors and some outposts were claimed by the free people. with eyery outpost now giving +3400 tactical mastery i had about 46k tactical mastery and still hadn't reached the outgoing healing cap. With 46k tm i was at 63% outgoing healing...so i don't think there's a cap. But even if there was i don't think its reachable outside the ettenmoors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawari0n View Post
    Yesterday i went in the moors and some outposts were claimed by the free people. with eyery outpost now giving +3400 tactical mastery i had about 46k tactical mastery and still hadn't reached the outgoing healing cap. With 46k tm i was at 63% outgoing healing...so i don't think there's a cap. But even if there was i don't think its reachable outside the ettenmoors...
    This is interesting information, i kinda like it even more, you can be even better... Can someone else confirm that Tac mastery is not capped at least till 46k tac mastery ?

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