Thread: OK, Someone Explain Harmony Stance to Me - Returning Minstrel

Harmony Stance - what's the deal?

I understand the mechanics of it. I think the concept of it is cool it's just.... when would I use this?

If I'm solo on the landscape why would I not be in WS? If I'm healing an instance run why would I not be in Melody?

I really like the true hybrid concept. I just can't figure out when/where it makes sense to use it.

Any help?

Only places I find it nice are instances like Edge of Fangorn, where you have to dps and heal if your in low dps group. Only other place would be an ad-hoc group where you don't know the quality of your fellows or maybe when you're helping lower level guys and don't want to be there all day. Its not THAT useful, but it is useful situationally.

It is excellent in places where you have the time to get your anthems up or when you have a secondary healer. With legacies, gear, and traits, your anthems can last for 30-35 seconds and your anthem cooldowns drop to 5 seconds. That allows you to get all your anthems up at once and keep them all going. This buffs the heck out of the fellowship and makes it very easy to keep them healed. But even with a 5 second cooldown, it takes 30 seconds to get 6 anthems up. It means that the first 15-20 seconds of a fight can be sort of touchy.

When conditions allow it, I really enjoy traiting 5 yellow and 2 blue or 2 red, depending on the situation. Your healing is good, your power consumption is lowered, and you have some offensive capabilities too. It has a VERY different 'feel' and it is a kick to see a fellowship mowing stuff down while you kick back, cycling through your anthems, bombing stuff from time to time, and firing off an occasional heal. And the buffs stack on top of those by captains, so if you have one of THEM in the group too, the results are simply a joy to behold! Even though the rest of the group probably won't know why they've turned into a thresher, you do.

Though I am also a newbie to Mini ( my mini is still lvl68.... ) but I already found that Harmony Stance is quite op.

Just like other says, 5 yellow, with Master of Tales trait on, and get 35s anthem duration with 5s cooldown, Mini turns to Buff-Master with just a little nerfed on healing ablility.

In most scenarios, not in raid apparantly, I think Harmony Stance could do a well done job. Just remember put all Anthems on, espeicially Anthem of Third Age (Harmony), Bolster Courage as single target heal, gp heal with Inspire Fellows and Herald's Strike.

Urgently, try Coda of Resonance, you can damage ur target and heal all ur gp members simultaneously. C' mon, thats an AoE heal ! Even ur Coda of Vigour could not done that.

Thats all, I recommand Harmony Stance with no reservation, it grants me alot of fun, as Gambler to my Burg!

I think the main reason to be in Harmony is for the group heal on your coda. I look at Melody as the single-target healing stance, Harmony as the group healing stance and War-Speech as the DPS stance.

Three words.

Coda of Resonance.

Group heal on Coda is great, the power cost reduction on Anthems (since that's pretty much 90% of the skills you use when yellow-traited) is superb. As for the delay in getting your Anthem rotation rolling, that's what Cry of the Chorus is for.

Yellow healing is very different to blue: some love it, some hate it, some just don't get it.

I was asking more about the skill Harmony Stance than the Yellow trait line per se, though I see how they might go hand in hand.

But even if you have more Yellow traits than any other color, I can see being in Melody Stance for healing purposes.

Harmony stance often is better for yellow minis than melody. If you're using anthems every few seconds the power cost anthem is critical for boss fights. Even though you lose a bit of outright healing, I find the damage, armor, attack speed, resistance, tactical mitigation, vitality, icmr, and evade boosts more than make up for that. Harmony cannot be looked at aside from the yellow line because so much of its benefits go with that line. I myself used Melody until I got all my trait slots in Moria.

I usually trait 5 yellow and 2 red when doing Pits, easy 6 mans, Draig, or if I'm pretending to be a captain. The two red I use are Herald's Strike damage and the one with +coda crit chance. Heralded saviour for extra healing, anthem power, ballad power, anthem CD, anthem duration are the others. I can see 3 red/4 yellow or 2/4/1 working as well since the capstone is kind of meh.

Rotation is a mixture of spamming ballads, coda, anthem of war/composure, herald's strike, and throwing in a noble cause when you want to do more anthems. Should be able to complete the above without using a bolster courage.

I use it a lot on 3men instances and the last boss of RoF.

Never tried using it on draig, but should work pretty well.

I got pulled into a Lighting Wing boss fight the other day after they lost a healer and I found using the Harmony for the AOE heal worked really well for dealing with the lighting burst. It lets me heal the entire party instantly after the burst and then inspire fellow to finish everyone to full.

I'm traited 4y/3b for healing, and I find myself using it mostly in 2 situations:

1. In 2/3 man content where the healing isn't very difficult, but is still on me, it allows for more offensive flexibility than Melody without shutting off outbound heals.

2. In the DPS group on Draigoch during the tunnel-running phases. I pretty much never toss a direct heal. I'll just Ballad-Ballad-Ballad-AoW then use Herald's Strike for the group heal, coda of resonance with AoP for a group heal to refresh the Herald's Strike NC effect, and very very occasionally pop an Inspire Fellows. PRetty much all my healing is incidental as I do some damage. Then I go to Melody while on the floor as usually more dedicated healing is needed and War-Speech when he's down.

This is very interesting... I'm going to try it! My LIs aren't ideal for it at the moment but I'm sure I'll survive.

Now what's this about Anthems refreshing NC... or NC refreshing Anthems? I'm confused. I always liked the idea of a melee-range minstrel.

Using a coda after using anthem of composure gives the NC effect. If you trait full yellow you can do this every 5 seconds. Account for time to ballad/coda/herald's strike, you can still throw in 1-2 more anthems. Throw in +10s anthem duration legacy, draig gear, herald's hammer and herald's saviour trait and you got yourself a wannabe captain.