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    Great River Weaps

    Didn't see this in patch notes but the great river weaps you can craft have had some of their stats taken away. For example the Polished Great River Dagger of Combat no longer has phys. mastery on it.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterBojangles View Post
    Didn't see this in patch notes but the great river weaps you can craft have had some of their stats taken away. For example the Polished Great River Dagger of Combat no longer has phys. mastery on it.
    Wait.... WHAT?
    Thats a pretty big nerf... did you /bug it?

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Quote Originally Posted by Strikerin View Post
    Wait.... WHAT?
    Thats a pretty big nerf... did you /bug it?
    Yep I made sure to bug it, just would like some confirmation if its an intentional nerf.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    If this isn't intentional, please fix this before the update goes live.

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    Re: Great River Weaps



    Looks like they took away the crit on the sword.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    If it's intentional it's not in patch notes as far as I can see...

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterBojangles View Post


    Looks like they took away the crit on the sword.
    You can't crit guild recipes - they are already auto-crits, so to speak.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    He means they took the crit rating off of the sword.

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    AW: Great River Weaps

    I guess Turbine found a new way of improving the quality of Orthanc loot

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    So, is this a bug or nerf? The dagger of combat lost ~650 physical mastery...

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarenius View Post
    So, is this a bug or nerf? The dagger of combat lost ~650 physical mastery...
    As did the axe - 672 to be exact. Goes from being as good as anything in game to vendor trash, tbh.
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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Finally, a nerf to the freeps. Thank you turbine!

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Quote Originally Posted by Siege_of_Mirkwood View Post
    Finally, a nerf to the freeps.
    Hardly. I just replaced it with something else. Or I'll just use my 2H, as I always do in Ettenmoors.
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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Quote Originally Posted by Siege_of_Mirkwood View Post
    Finally, a nerf to the freeps. Thank you turbine!
    Now we just use a ToO t2 weapon with no dps and move a relic to get the mastery back, which in the end lets us hit the creeps harder and kill them faster.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmas_Eldar View Post
    As did the axe - 672 to be exact. Goes from being as good as anything in game to vendor trash, tbh.
    Yup, I don't understand it. It has made basically every one useless.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    This is really stupid. Why would they do this after people have spent their Rhi Helvarch Sigils and other materials on it or purchased it from others with gold?


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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Wow can't believe they did this. I was experimenting with the axe from ToO t2 and the great river axe on my hunter. Guess i'm gonna be sticking with the axe from ToO now. They probably did it so the gear from ToO doesn't seem so bad.

    Sucks to see the sword I use on my champ lose its crit though.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Yeah this was an unpleasant surprise when I went out to moors and was wondering why my damage was down till I realized how much phys mastery I had lost. Wargs were already OP, now I do even less damage to them lol.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Well I'm disappointed these changes went live.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    I'm thinking this is a bug because notice it's the 4th item on the list of each of those weapons that is removed in the new one.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Quote Originally Posted by elosefast View Post
    I'm thinking this is a bug because notice it's the 4th item on the list of each of those weapons that is removed in the new one.
    Maybe it was an old build that got loaded in with this patch by mistake. While not screenshotted above the mace lost its crit bonus which was also 4th on the list.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    If they want to make Orthanc gear better why don't they just do that?
    If this is WAI, it is a sledge-hammer nerf. Lost 650 PM, other version lost 270 morale...these are not "tweaks".

    Turned these from viable options into junk wast of sigils
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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Quote Originally Posted by DRad123 View Post
    If they want to make Orthanc gear better why don't they just do that?
    If this is WAI, it is a sledge-hammer nerf. Lost 650 PM, other version lost 270 morale...these are not "tweaks".

    Turned these from viable options into junk wast of sigils
    I agree 100%. And since no bluey person has said otherwise we have to assume it is WAI.

    Anyway I want to thank you guys for posting this info. I was just getting ready to make a weaponsmith with my champ but not now. You all saved me a lot of what would have been wasted time, effort and gold.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Quote Originally Posted by Khallan1706 View Post
    And since no bluey person has said otherwise we have to assume it is WAI.
    No we don't. They can't comment on every single post.

    Edit: blue post, this is a bug

    Quote Originally Posted by Celestrata View Post
    Hey guys!

    So, the team is looking into this and it is not an intended change. We're adding it to the known issues list. Thank you all for bringing it to our attention!
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    Re: Great River Weaps

    I am posting to add my signature to get this fixed!

    If this is intentional change to my crafted weapons I will be very upset.

    I have spent the last year and a half building up a full group of crafters, and getting them to level 75.

    I have crafted these great river weapons recently and loved them. They are special to me because I put so much time, effort and gold into getting finally being able to craft them.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Finally. We have a response:

    http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...37#post6171137
    Quote Originally Posted by Celestrata View Post
    Hey guys!

    So, the team is looking into this and it is not an intended change. We're adding it to the known issues list. Thank you all for bringing it to our attention!

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    I think the amount of bugs in this patch actually outnumber the new additions!

    Not to mention almost 6 months of laggy and broken servers/client/whatever the reply is nowadays.

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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Huh... I just realised last night that my Great River Sword of Insight has had it's 300 odd crit rating replaced with 300 tactical mastery... why? Without the crit I wouldn't have even bothered buying one in the first place It's a small change but when you spend weeks gathering gear and getting stuff made for a SPECIFIC BUILD only to have the gear itself changed is beyond frustrating. I do sincerely hope it is a bug of some sort. /sigh
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    Re: Great River Weaps

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaapad View Post
    Huh... I just realised last night that my Great River Sword of Insight has had it's 300 odd crit rating replaced with 300 tactical mastery... why? Without the crit I wouldn't have even bothered buying one in the first place It's a small change but when you spend weeks gathering gear and getting stuff made for a SPECIFIC BUILD only to have the gear itself changed is beyond frustrating. I do sincerely hope it is a bug of some sort. /sigh
    The crit rating was removed. The sword already had tactical mastery. The weapons are bugged and will be changed back.

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