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    What should i be hitting at 75?

    whats the max damage i should be hitting wiht remorsless strike at 75


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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    all depends on your weapon, your traits, your legacies and your relics. It also depends on the mob, the damage type and the random number generator. Grouped burgs, captains and minis also contribute to your damage.

    A more accurate gauge of your performance is your dps... compare it to people you regularly group with (comparing to uber l33t pimped out raiderz is not good for your self confidence). If you're on par with the other pure dps classes, and you're completing the content you attempt, then you're doing fine.
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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    if yo really wanna know: my maximum hit with Remorseless Strike (beyond Draigochs Lair!!) was about 27k on Saruman.
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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy_Laessig View Post
    if yo really wanna know: my maximum hit with Remorseless Strike (beyond Draigochs Lair!!) was about 27k on Saruman.
    Though you should mention, that apart from various Raid Buffs on you and Debuffs on Saruman, you probably also took benefit from the DMG buff from one of the rings (guess it's the fire ring, though I'm not too sure about that).

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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vodomir View Post
    Though you should mention, that apart from various Raid Buffs on you and Debuffs on Saruman, you probably also took benefit from the DMG buff from one of the rings (guess it's the fire ring, though I'm not too sure about that).
    As I said above, the buff from the fire ring doesn't increase damage, it increases the amount of devs to 25% dev change.
    This was said by forum dev in a few patches ago.

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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    Dual Wielding/2h which makes a total over 3k is nice

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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorebane View Post
    As I said above, the buff from the fire ring doesn't increase damage, it increases the amount of devs to 25% dev change.
    This was said by forum dev in a few patches ago.
    One of the rings puts up a tiering corruption (tiers up 3 times) which, when removed, puts an incoming damage modifier on the mob. I don't remember the exact modifier on the debuff but it's definitely significant.

    Intelligent groups time this with skills like oathbreakers, to arms, the LM incoming damage debuff (the name escapes me) and the various damage CDs individual DPS classes can use; in our case the LG pocket clicky, CBR, a fervour pot, helm dev mag proc and CB with the 4 set PvP bonus. You also have the constant things like telling mark, captain's sure strike debuff with the new PvP set, the various armour debuffs classes can use if they play properly, revealing marks from however many burgs are in the raid and minstrel buffs.

    Hence if you actually stop and think about the amount of things which are in place in a well synchronised raid to buff damage output; the aforementioned hit becomes entirely possible.

    Edit: I forgot to mention that the assumption that your experience with your build represents the pinnacle of potential is, frankly, laughable.
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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorebane View Post
    As I said above, the buff from the fire ring doesn't increase damage, it increases the amount of devs to 25% dev change.
    This was said by forum dev in a few patches ago.
    Hmm ... still don't know if this number is that far out of reach when things line up perfectly (Ballad of War, Blade Brother, To Arms, Limlight Clicky, Threkkappi Helmte procc, Oathbreakers, Fervour Pot, Captain Moors Set inc DMG debuff on the mob, stacking burgs, LM armor debuff, maybe bear pet debuff, armor rend procs from other players' weapons, +susceptibility debuff from other players' weapons and whatever I may have forgotten here). I managed to hit 13k with a 1H Sword (without being blade brothered, just one burg, no threkkappi helm, no dev mag settings, no captain moors set, no oathies, nor fervour pot, no limlight clicky, I didn't even have the limlight set by that time, no special debuffs etc.) - under perfect circumstances this could have been a lot higher. So I don't see 27k with a 2H to be out of reach under perfect (or almost perfect circumstances).

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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy_Laessig View Post
    if yo really wanna know: my maximum hit with Remorseless Strike (beyond Draigochs Lair!!) was about 27k on Saruman.
    I'm sorry but I don't believe that.

    On draigoch you have at the end incoming damage + 100% for melee. Then on top of all that you have buffs and burgs etc.

    I've gone completely full glass canon, first ager and everything to time and so far, and as far as I've seen, I've had one of or THE biggest hits on Draigoch which was 28.4K.

    I've gone full glass canon on Saruman fight and I've been extremely lucky to hit 19.7K.


    I call this lying because,

    1, you don't get incoming damage on Saruman unlike Draigoch.

    2, the buff from the fire ring only gives a % to devastate more. It doesn't increase the magnitude of crits or devs so they're not hitting any harder.

    3, I doubt you'd of stacked more than 2 or at complete most 3 burgs purely because of the fight.
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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    Quote Originally Posted by lasgolar View Post
    What should i be hitting at 75?
    to finally answer this topic's title: Saruman's face, of course!

    Sorry for drifting OT

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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    Tha plain answer is mobs and anything trying to hit you. Anyone saying otherwise is ofc lying.

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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vodomir View Post
    to finally answer this topic's title: Saruman's face, of course!

    Sorry for drifting OT
    I could hit that

    Seriously this thread is screwed up and nobody's taking advantage of it

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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    Quote Originally Posted by Haunt123 View Post
    I could hit that

    Seriously this thread is screwed up and nobody's taking advantage of it
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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    I thought there was a +25% dev magnitude on the fire buff, as well as a +25% crit magnitude.
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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrfigglesworth View Post
    I thought there was a +25% dev magnitude on the fire buff, as well as a +25% crit magnitude.
    100% chance and 25 dev mag and crit

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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    Quote Originally Posted by lasgolar View Post
    What should i be hitting at 75?


    Well, you are an AoE DPS class after all...

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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    everyone ^

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    Re: What should i be hitting at 75?

    I only dual wield on my champ, typically I hit between 500-1500 per attack and around 3k on a crit remorseless strike. My might is only around 1500 as I don't like my other stats to suffer too much

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