Thread: I give up...

Tried to post quite a long response to a thread and got:

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When I pushed my back button, my post was gone.

I give up with these forums.

Yeah, been getting a couple token expired messages today myself. As well as the page reloads, etc. Best one just happened to me, said the forum requires 60 seconds between operations and to please wait 14005 seconds before trying again. Yep, that's right, 14005 seconds (~3.8 hours). Never saw one that high before. LOL, well at least it said please


(I did not post this 4 hours ago, lol...)

I like clicking a post 2 or 3 times to get it to open or clicking a post and it takes you back to the main forums page. I guess they are too cheap to buy a decent message board.

This has happened to me several times today and seems related to the last server downtime for maintenance.

Welden

Originally Posted by Elderban

Tried to post quite a long response to a thread and got:



When I pushed my back button, my post was gone.

I give up with these forums.

These forums are prolly working just like they want them too. I find it hard to believe they could do a simple maintenance and totally pork the forums so bad like this. We all know how open they are to hearing from us. "rolls eyes" I am sure this is all by design to make it such a huge PITA for anyone to post anything. Think how much they could recover on their bottom line by burning half a dozen mods if this all keeps up?

I learned a long time ago, on many other forums, to hit CTRL A (select all), CTRL-C (copy), and if it gets eaten- CTRL-V (paste). DONT hit any button between the A and C step, or you will cry when the whole thing goes poof


I don't trust forums, especially on long posts....

Originally Posted by OnyxSoulbane

Think how much they could recover on their bottom line by burning half a dozen mods if this all keeps up?

Think how many subs they are losing/lost because they don't care. Their bottom line is getting smaller and smaller, soon the store won't have customers either.

Originally Posted by Sarmea

I learned a long time ago, on many other forums, to hit CTRL A (select all), CTRL-C (copy), and if it gets eaten- CTRL-V (paste). DONT hit any button between the A and C step, or you will cry when the whole thing goes poof


I don't trust forums, especially on long posts....

Wow I tried to post something and it didn't show up. GRRR!

Yeah thats a good idea. What I wanted to say too.

Originally Posted by Shinir

Think how many subs they are losing/lost because they don't care. Their bottom line is getting smaller and smaller, soon the store won't have customers either.

OMG Nooo!!!! If that store beast doesn't get fed, you know what's gonna happen right? Oh the horror!!

I would much rather have my belly button taken away for life!!

It's not like the forums worked all that well to begin with. They were always broken, now they're just moreso.

Just happened to me too. The funny thing is that the OP managed to make this thread, so maybe this time it will work for me too.
If it does happen to work, here is the thread I was trying to create:


I was looking for the Skirmish Bundle: Defend and Hold. It's here http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/LOTR...irmish_Bundles and I'd swear I'd seen it before in the store. I can't see it now, and I don't have it (or any of those skirmishes) but I can see the other bundle. Is this a glitch or the item has been removed from the store.
The bundles are 20% cheaper then buying piecemeal, but this week individual skirmishes are at 25% discount...
If it's gone for good I'll rush to buy the skirmishes on sale, otherwise they can wait. Any clues?

EDIT: heh, it did work, but I tried a third time to start a separate thread and still failed. I give up too.
But if you have any answer to the skirmish bundle question, please answer.

that's when i learned to Copy all the data before "send".

That type of thing can happen anywhere so I type my messages into wordpad or notepad, save, and then copy/paste. Unless it's a short message like this one.

Ok, so now I replied to another thread, clicked "Submit Reply", and it took me to a blank submit reply box.

I copy/pasted it and did it again, same thing.

I did this four times then finally gave up. Of course, this is after clicking on the "Reply to Thread" button three times just so I could reply.

Originally Posted by Sarmea

I learned a long time ago, on many other forums, to hit CTRL A (select all), CTRL-C (copy), and if it gets eaten- CTRL-V (paste). DONT hit any button between the A and C step, or you will cry when the whole thing goes poof


I don't trust forums, especially on long posts....

Also, if you by chance do hit another button and overwrite the whole thing - give Ctrl-z a try before you cry

Conspiracy theory!

The people who spend most time on posts have something negative to say, and therefore making them type it twice will dilute the negative responses through attrition!

Originally Posted by Fudoshin

Conspiracy theory!

The people who spend most time on posts have something negative to say, and therefore making them type it twice will dilute the negative responses through attrition!

No no no, it's the fanbois that spend more time on post's. It's hard for them to write something and not look lovingly at their set of buffed up, scuffed up, rambo pom pom's every other sentence, and give them a good shaking at least once per paragraph, you have that totally backwards me thinks.

Originally Posted by Majic

"Rock is overpowered, but paper is perfect." -- Scissors

Is this you're quote? This may be the most hilarious quote I have read in a long while

Originally Posted by OnyxSoulbane

No no no, it's the fanbois that spend more time on post's. It's hard for them to write something and not look lovingly at their set of buffed up, scuffed up, rambo pom pom's every other sentence, and give them a good shaking at least once per paragraph, you have that totally backwards me thinks.

You are now obligated to give us a picture of a "buffed up, scuffed up, rambo pom pom". I'm suffering a failure of the imagination and would like a visual reference so I can share the laughter with others. (It doesn't hurt that I'm talking about the Pomeranian dogs, either, as we've always referred to them as pom poms.)

You must do it!

Originally Posted by OnyxSoulbane

No no no, it's the fanbois that spend more time on post's. It's hard for them to write something and not look lovingly at their set of buffed up, scuffed up, rambo pom pom's every other sentence, and give them a good shaking at least once per paragraph, you have that totally backwards me thinks.

I disagree!

The fact that the forums have been horrible since I started playing (about 1.5 years now) shows to me that Turbine cares little about their online site. This forum and the lorebook are just pathetic. If they had any sense, they would make an upgrade of their forum a priority before upgrading old dungeons and zones.

Originally Posted by Elderban

Tried to post quite a long response to a thread and got:



When I pushed my back button, my post was gone.

I give up with these forums.

It's annoying I agree.

What I do is always copy my post before I hit submit, that way I can easily paste it again if that stupid message happens.

Originally Posted by Dingador

The fact that the forums have been horrible since I started playing (about 1.5 years now) shows to me that Turbine cares little about their online site. This forum and the lorebook are just pathetic. If they had any sense, they would make an upgrade of their forum a priority before upgrading old dungeons and zones.

It wasn't always like this. This coming September?(I forget exactly which month) is the 2nd anniversary of when some genius took down a perfectly working forum and replaced it with this pile of garbage.

The problems we are seeing now are just another piece of straw on the haystack of forum issues. Pretty soon it will be a 2 year old beta. *sigh*

All forums have problems now and then, and it is indeed possible to lose messages if they aren't backed up somehow before submitting them.

I ran into this issue many years ago on different sites, and ever since, I compose my posts (except for really short ones) in a text editor, just in case. And I also, like others here have suggested, Ctrl-A to select all, Ctrl-C to copy post text before submitting, just in case.

I haven't lost a post in years, and it's easy to keep it from happening.

Just sayin'



(And, prophetically enough, my first attempt to post this got munched.)

we all just need to wait for the fixed version of the forums coming soon.......in the lotro store

Originally Posted by Majic

"Rock is overpowered, but paper is perfect." -- Scissors

Is this your quote? It may be the most hilarious thing I've read in a while

Oh, and this post got munched as well.

yah..don't you just love this 2 year old beat POS that replaced a perfectly good working forum board? YAY US!


on the bright side....the LOTRO Store is working just fine!

Yeah, this message board has been #### since they changed the site a couple years ago. Over the last few days though it's just been completely useless.

If you go to a store and the door is hanging off and the customer service area has chairs that are filthy and wobble when you sit on them, it doesn't give a very good impression does it. For a company the size of Turbine to still have a beta ( now broken beta ) forum is a disgrace.
The game really isn't much better for a lot of people at the moment either.

The forums and the way they (don't) work should be an absolute embarrassment to Turbine, and there's really no excuse for them to have all of the problems they still do after all of this time. That doesn't even mention the rest of the site problem.

really people, put a bit of $$ into it, hire the right people and get it fixed, even if it means having to redo the whole thing again. It can't work much worse than it's working now.

Originally Posted by Shinir

Think how many subs they are losing/lost because they don't care. Their bottom line is getting smaller and smaller, soon the store won't have customers either.

Judging by the number of people posting here (like you!) they aren't losing anyone at all. Have you left the game?

But yeah, these forums are horrible.

But the forum is not the game.

Just a heads up http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?458060-Forum-issues&p=6156330#post6156330

But the game is broken too for a lot of people. Read the sticky at the top about stuttering / lag.

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...-issues/page25

Regardless, for a company the size of Turbine to still have a beta ( now broken beta ) forum, is a disgrace. It shows that things behind the scenes are a shambles, and either no-one gives a damn about fixing things anymore or there just isn't enough money around to do it, contrary to what they keep telling us about their 'success' with F2P.

Leaving a 'beta' tag on a forum for two years is apparently now an excuse not to do any further work on it. No matter how they like to dress it up, this is their 'live' forum, not something that is being tested. The forums are broken, the blogs are broken, the game is broken, and Sapience always seems to disappear when things go wrong, and then turn up again later to answer trivial questions about horses or some other guff. What happened to Turbines 'promise to communicate better'? More empty words it has proved to be.

Originally Posted by hex2323

Judging by the number of people posting here (like you!) they aren't losing anyone at all. Have you left the game?

But yeah, these forums are horrible.

But the forum is not the game.

So I guess you aren't experiencing all the lag and horse stable issues and super increased loading times that is making the game really hard to play? As for losing people, I'm back to only logging in for raid nights because of the people I raid with. If not for the relationship with these people, I wouldn't be playing at all.

Originally Posted by monteeburns

But the game is broken too for a lot of people. Read the sticky at the top about stuttering / lag.

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...-issues/page25

Regardless, for a company the size of Turbine to still have a beta ( now broken beta ) forum, is a disgrace. It shows that things behind the scenes are a shambles, and either no-one gives a damn about fixing things anymore or there just isn't enough money around to do it, contrary to what they keep telling us about their 'success' with F2P.

Leaving a 'beta' tag on a forum for two years is apparently now an excuse not to do any further work on it. No matter how they like to dress it up, this is their 'live' forum, not something that is being tested. The forums are broken, the blogs are broken, the game is broken, and Sapience always seems to disappear when things go wrong, and then turn up again later to answer trivial questions about horses or some other guff. What happened to Turbines 'promise to communicate better'? More empty words it has proved to be.

Pffftt!!! You know as well as i do that was all empty promises. As of late these forums have indeed broken the space time continuim, but turbine has been a black hole the whole time. Stuff goes in, nuttin' comes out. Smoke and mirrors, there isn't any communication, but this isn't a news flash either, i think many have realized all of this long ago.

Ever since they changed the forums performance has been pretty bad. Forum participation plummeted immediately following the change and, sadly, never recovered. The Brandywine server forum went from bustling to near deserted overnight. I much preferred the old forums personally.

Originally Posted by Jeffor

Ever since they changed the forums performance has been pretty bad. Forum participation plummeted immediately following the change and, sadly, never recovered. The Brandywine server forum went from bustling to near deserted overnight. I much preferred the old forums personally.

I'm sure it'll come back Jeffor. If there are any others out there like me then it will. When the Forums first started acting up I got frustrated but kept trying to use them. Then I just said "Ah **** it" and stopped using them for a few days. They're all good now though and I'm back ticking people off where ever I can. He he. My point is give it time and I'm sure others will notice they aren't FUBAR'd anymore.

Originally Posted by Khallan1706

I like clicking a post 2 or 3 times to get it to open or clicking a post and it takes you back to the main forums page. I guess they are too cheap to buy a decent message board.

Come on, give 'em a break, it's ONLY been five years

Originally Posted by Elrendos

I'm sure it'll come back Jeffor. If there are any others out there like me then it will. When the Forums first started acting up I got frustrated but kept trying to use them. Then I just said "Ah **** it" and stopped using them for a few days. They're all good now though and I'm back ticking people off where ever I can. He he. My point is give it time and I'm sure others will notice they aren't FUBAR'd anymore.

I think he's referring to when they went with the new system (Custom VBulletin Beta) that we currently have and not the hiccup that came with this weeks maintenance.