Thread: Forum issues?

Forums have been wacky for me too since they came back up at about 11:30 or so this morning. They started out really bonkers, but eventually the big issues (CSS, frames, fonts all messed up) cleared up. Now it's just multiple clicks on the same link to navigate anywhere and having to go back a few times to get a reply with quote to actually show the quote, as well as the usual (getting logged out for no apparent reason; upon opening the forum page, it always opens one page back from where I left from; etc.). Oh, and the old bug is back where not copying your post to clipboard before submitting is like playing Russian Roulette, sooner or later you always lose.

Between the wonky forums, the ridiculous lag/hitches/stable-rides/loading times issues in-game, and the blatant exploiting going on with no repercussions from Turbine, I'm not having much fun here anymore, and that is very depressing.

Double posts. Triple posts. Even saw a quadruple post once. Out of sequence posts. Posts with the wrong time stamps...

Even though this is still technically a beta forum, it shouldn't break just because someone pushes a bloody reset button. At least hold off until someone installs a "Awaken Cthulhu In Lost R'lyeh" button!

Originally Posted by Dingador

Turbine forums fail, yet again.

Have they ever worked right in the first place?

If I were heading up Turbine, I would be saying "Why are the forums still in 'beta' after two plus years??"

Of course, leaving it in beta is an easy way to deal with all of the problems instead of actually fixing them.

"You're forums are broken!!!"

"Yes, but we are in beta, so that's ok."

An entire MMO Beta with hundred's of thousands of users last weekend ran smoother than this Forum "Beta" ever has.

I miss the old forums. Brandywine lost some many of it's forum people because it just became a pain in the rear to use them.

Hourly update...I am still having to double click and repost to get things to work.

Originally Posted by Winterfell

An entire MMO Beta with hundred's of thousands of users last weekend ran smoother than this Forum "Beta" ever has.

I miss the old forums. Brandywine lost some many of it's forum people because it just became a pain in the rear to use them.

Hourly update...I am still having to double click and repost to get things to work.

Blasted time sink. Took me 3 clicks just to get the thread to finally re-load.
Y'know Winter, I hadn't ever thunk of that, regarding BW'rs big posters.
Well, I will be copying my replies to clipboard, before hitting Submit, from now on. Can't trust these sp_login crud to not up and delete everything. (I'm starting to consider starting a Lotro F2P-VIP account with a credit card company that's in "Beta". Not truly, but it was the first thought I had when Elderban mentioned the Beta label forever haunting these forums. "It's still in beta, so it's okay!")

Originally Posted by diablodeaf

Sapience broke it!

3rd try . . not sure if I should repeat, but this will be my last try getting a reply , the post roulette is fun, but stuck in this loop not so fun

"Search took 0.02 seconds; generated 243 minute(s) ago"

Lies.. I clicked "New Posts" 2 minutes ago..

Post Anniversairy forum post chase

Are you the post chaser of the year? Click the right post with an 'active mouse pointer' and maybe you will win a unique custom forum title!

Or win a 'Token of the Thinker', granting you a whopping hour to rewrite, rethink and rework an open reply!

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LMAO! My post up above here shows that I posted it at 7:56 pm. I just posted that a few minutes ago, just before midnight. Yeah, these forums are really bonkers now. Looks like they wanted to make them match the game.

How I long for the old days when we had the old forums that worked so well. We've been in beta on this new, stupid, often unusable forum for a good 2 years and it STILL doesn't work anywhere near as good as the old one. I mean, why do we need to click twice on the forums button to actually get to the forum list? Why does it really have to load so slowly, lose posts and generally work like a POS? Of course, its par for the course...they 'improve' the game (IE introduce tons of bugs and broken content) and ruin many other parts of the game, guess we shouldn't be surprised that they fubared the forums too....


btw on a side topic, I'm very worried about this new LI thingy-ma-bobber they are introducing. It seems like its going to add a whole new level of irritating grinding to the game and, of course, they'll add 'convenience' items to the store to shorten the grind or put things in the store that you MUST buy to get full use out of the new 'enhancement'.....*SIGH*

I'm having to click multiple times on a thread to open it.

I'm having to click multiple times on a reply to get a proper window I can type in.

I can't open several threads at the same time in different tabs, it's 50% hit or miss, with miss taking me back to the main forum section I was browsing, basically reloading the same page.

Yep, bonkers. Bringeth out thee Floggerths!!

Or maybe they just forgot to feed the forumhamsters their waffles?

Still getting masses of '400' errors, clicking the same link eventually gets through.

omg it takes forever to even get into the reply section, I might aswell justs hit F5 the next 5 minutes... not only that, but all the problems cause me to multipost while still being in my first post >.<

+ posts seem to be jumping around.

It's a new forum game, hunt the post!

It's been a year or so since we've seen this, I expect it will get fixed soon.

Crazy I can reply to a post but it will come up as an earlier post in this thread.

Beware! I wield the power to bend the space-time continuum Now to control it...

Originally Posted by djheydt

And, as far as I know, the maintenance downtime was for the *game*, and the forums were supposed to have been up all the time and unaffected.

Apparently, this isn't quite true. News in launcher said that the game servers are down, so yes, game server maintenance there. However, it also said that forums and wiki should stay up, but players may not be able to log in. This quite clearly means there were some maintenance also related to forums, one way or another, and that part has gone horribly wrong.

Originally Posted by Flatfoot789

Forums are useless ATM.

They still are. Getting to the Dev Tracker page took me 11 clicks. Beat that. I tried to get there from the General Discussion area, and only thing that happened was that classic "&sp_login=1" being added to the end of url in address bar. It happened before, maybe few times a day and threw me back to the main forum listing, but never quite as often as now. Redirection seems to work better now - it doesn't throw me to a different page than where I was, but back to where I was. On the other hand, it works TOO well. It likes to redirect me back all the time. Darn. Not good.

Originally Posted by Rainothon

Crazy I can reply to a post but it will come up as an earlier post in this thread.

I just had to quote this post to see where my reply is compared to this one. We'll see. My bet is on this post being finally found from the French forum section, within a completely unrelated thread. That's kinda how much I trust the system at the moment.

Still experience same problems.

Also saw this doing searches:

This forum requires that you wait 20 seconds between searches. Please try again in 14489 seconds.

Also saw errors about searches returning the entire database are a bad idea, when I was searching on my username...

Originally Posted by DelgonTheWise

This forum requires that you wait 20 seconds between searches. Please try again in 14489 seconds.

I guess they mean 20 years between searches, but forgot to change that word!

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Just think, were this a Microsoft product we could refer to all the issues as "Undocumented Features"!

Not sure what you guys are talking about. This forum has always logged me out randomly and failed to post messages just because...nothing new here.

Originally Posted by Alex53

Not sure what you guys are talking about. This forum has always logged me out randomly and failed to post messages just because...nothing new here.

New thing since yesterday's maintenance is that it keeps doing more than just logging out randomly or failing to post messages. It messes up timestamps, it gives whole new errors, throws users to random pages instead of into the thread or page of thread they want to go to... et cetera.

I have been active on various different forums, and within 15 years of using different forums, I've never seen any being messed up this badly, without any fixes being made. If you think of vBulletin specifically, I've never seen any being messed up like this one, no matter how many plugins or custom features were built into it.

Turbine has really created something etxraordinary - an extremely complex and as-difficult-to-use-as-humanly-possible forum system that also works as an excellent how-to for anyone willing to build their own. Oh, wait, I meant "how-not-to". That's the term I was looking for...

Originally Posted by zarador

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• eliminate forum jeopardy! No more reading the answers before the question!
• stay logged in actually keeps you logged in, even when posting to a thread!
• enhanced search, looking up rune keeper will no longer direct you to dwarf beards!
• auto-delete feature disabled in long threads, no more cut & save out of fear!
• free access to the twitter link explaining that the facebook link that explains that the forums are wonky is down!
• cut search time down to 20 seconds from 468 hours!
• *access to all pvp and store rants!

*browser not included, your results may vary, internet or smartphone access required. Since this is a beta offering, results are subject to flakiness. Changes to cosmetics in the game may result in downtime in the forums.
** turbine reserves the right to throw their hands up in frustration in the event that everything goes horribly wrong and no one close by is available to blame. In the event that blame can not be cast, f2p will be blamed by default.

Just think, were this a microsoft product we could refer to all the issues as "undocumented features"!

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Ever since the forums were brought down for fixes or whatever yesterday, they have been acting up really bad. Whenever I click links they aren't working or bring me to incorrect pages, whenever I try to post on the forums I occasionally get a new screen that pops up and my comment does not register. And recently I posted on someone elses thread and somehow it registered my post before theres and it made me the thread creator.

Seriously, your game is broken with lag and stable glitching and whatnot, now the forums are too?

Originally Posted by Nickysmom

That was what I was experiencing after the forums came back up, but everything seems to be ok now.

Heh heh.. Ironic that (sorry, I'm late to the party), I'm seeing this response as post 3 in the thread, and it's in response to a post about 7 posts later.. Funny that the poster is apparently not seeing what I'm seeing.. (or maybe he/she did AFTER posting.. I dunno..)

EDIT: Also ironic I had to attempt to post this about 3.7 times to actually get the forum to accept it.

*sarcasm on*

I don't know what anyone is talking about. I have not noticed any issues. I just want to know where people have discovered time travel though. I have been seeing responses to my posts show up before my post does in a discussion. Now that's messed up.

Originally Posted by DATmadild

I agree, since last update I am getting the following bugs in the Forums:

1- Have to click thread titles or links twice before it works
2- Posts are not in the correct order
3- Thread are not in the correct order.

Yea, I'm seeing all three of these issues too, but for me they've only started in the last couple days. It's really aggravating & is killing my interest in reading the forums.

yes its a known problem which is being looked according to sapience here
Forum issues?

and the twit post here
http://twitter.com/#!/lotro/status/199582029610889216

Originally Posted by Griffy

*grumble grumble*
Multiple attempts to post have been eaten with some odd "token error".

Perhaps they just didn't contain an appropriate quantity of Griffiness?

Originally Posted by Sapience

We're looking into it. It appears to be some odd caching issues after the maintenance.

Still hosed. Any updates to this report?

Multiple clicks required, clicking on 'General Discussion' often takes you to a previously viewed thread, posts out of order, posts lost or duplicated by forum editor errors, and so on.

Thanks for yesterday's note about this.

P.S. This one was also rejected by a 'token expired' page.

A new issue appeared since last maintenance:
some of the post are scrambled in their own topics, duplicates of the same post appeared. and some posts are not arranged orderly (like it should be, based on the time of their creation). This doesn't affect every post in a given thread, but only 2-4/pages.

Can you people at turbine fire whos ever idea it was to change the forums years ago in the first place.It has been nothing but problems since and here we are years later and the forums are still beta.This is just pathetic for a multi-million dollar game backed by some big companies.

I agree, since last update I am getting the following bugs in the Forums:

1- Have to click thread titles or links twice before it works
2- Posts are not in the correct order
3- Thread are not in the correct order.

the forums have been borked ever since they decided to integrate the game and forum accounts. that they've made it worse is not a shock.

dunno if this is new: i just did a search, clicked on a result link and... got my result list again. tried it again because previously i'd just had to click again. but no, got my result list again. copied the link into a new tab, which sent me to the forum home page.

if you're just browsing it's much easier to just log out. no issues with browsing, searching, etc., when logged out.

They have more then one server (machines) for the forums. One of them lost their time sync...

Originally Posted by SHADOW83

...here we are years later and the forums are still beta.This is just pathetic for a multi-million dollar game backed by some big companies.

So much truth here. Broken game, broken forum. And they want us to stump up cash upfront for RoR? If they can't manage to maintain a forum that works as intended, or get it out of beta in two years, or a game that doesn't lag horribly, or make a raid from the last xpac work correctly many months later, it stands to reason the next expansion will be horribly broken too. As shadow said, for a company with Turbines backing, it's pathetic. If I worked for Turbine I'd actually be embarrassed to tell anyone.

*sarcasm on*

I don't know what anyone is talking about. I have not noticed any issues. I just want to know where people have discovered time travel though. I have been seeing responses to my posts show up before my post does in a discussion. Now that's messed up.

Message #70 on the previous page should go here.

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...70#post6158270

There is something wrong with their clock. A few minutes ago, the forums said it was 11:48 am local time, when it was actually 3:48 pm local time. It may have something to do with the cache not updating as Sapience said. I'm definitely not an expert in such things.

Originally Posted by monteeburns

So much truth here. Broken game, broken forum. And they want us to stump up cash upfront for RoR? If they can't manage to maintain a forum that works as intended, or get it out of beta in two years, or a game that doesn't lag horribly, or make a raid from the last xpac work correctly many months later, it stands to reason the next expansion will be horribly broken too. As shadow said, for a company with Turbines backing, it's pathetic. If I worked for Turbine I'd actually be embarrassed to tell anyone.

Thats why i sit back for a week or two and see what horror storys roll out when a new QP is released, just like i did with great river. Didnt seem to have too many issues with GR, so i popped out with the TP for it. They dont get cash from me anyways, as TP is so easy for me to make. As long as they have intern's that cant code their way out of a paper bag if their lives depended on it working on this game, they will never get real money from me, ever.

ugh, this is worse than alpha Minecraft.

nm lol, never seen a website like this. BUGGY!!!

im suprised I even bother -.-