Thread: Max survival RK build and its effectivness in the Moors

after looking at patterns and some numbers, i have found that theoretically if an RK goes for a max out of 40% on tact mit + using writ of health + having a morale pool of 8-10k (10k being a little extreme) that they can have a survival rate comparable to a spider maxed out on mits + hardened carapace (+10% phys/tact mit) while still putting out more DPS in a short run than a spider.

add on 7 audacity

i assume this could be useful in small group / solo (not too sure for solo though) fights.

primary advantage of having a much higher survival than everyone else is that RKs rely on attunement building. this takes time. with a morale pool of 6-7k you only have a small amount of time to build up your attunement and use max attunement skills.

however, with high survival, you can build to max attunement and have a longer period of time to be at max attunement, therefor compensating for your drop in DPS due to loss of DPS stats. this has the benefit of giving more time to make decisions, fire off critical skills, or kite off/survive an effect.

this is speaking strictly moors now. for PVE this would be just idiotic.

im mostly using a comparison between RK and spider, with spiders stacking mits/crit def/health being more successful in small group/solo fights that those who just stack dps. because spiders have a lot of skill to fire off before their target is saturated will all the poisons/debuffs that the spider has, it is very similar to the RK who also has a lot of (fire) skills to put on the target.


just wondering if the RK community thinks there is any merit to this since i have no will to lvl an RK to 75 and get everything needed

I don't see a point in sacrificing enough dps to get 8-10k unbuffed. Just getting up a few WoH is enough. And I would go more for tact mit than morale.

You should ask that question to Ravezot on Gilrain. Not even half a dozen creeps can take him down.

Originally Posted by lutemaster

You should ask that question to Ravezot on Gilrain. Not even half a dozen creeps can take him down.

lol they must be pretty fail creeps haha.

that said, as an rk you don't wanna hit like a pansy either, creeps lose respect for those that hit like wimps. i had 2 rk's healing me from a rock and took out 12 creeps that were on me in my dps build. if i had a morale build i woulda died because i wouldn't have been able to cut the incoming dps by killing quickly.

i took on a warg and wl the other day, r6 and r7, in a morale build i woulda died because i wouldn't have spiked the warg hard enough before the bubble went off......

sometimes a warg can kill me sure, with only 7k morale it'll happen. but i'll be more likely to win if i have more dps, otherwise the warg will hips without fear of spike dps

with a high morale build...... i'd never kill a wl solo or a defiler.....

spiders..... easy in either build

reavers....... hit hard, there is a threshold you need to be above for reavers, but you gotta be able to hit em back too, i'd suggest a balanced build against a reaver

all in all i'd say continue dpsing at least that way you KNOW you can kill something before it gets away to safety

Originally Posted by loki84

i had 2 rk's healing me from a rock and took out 12 creeps that were on me in my dps build.

You had two rk's focus healing you and the 12 creeps didn't notice and try to take them down instead? That's... special.

Originally Posted by dagneyandleo

You had two rk's focus healing you and the 12 creeps didn't notice and try to take them down instead? That's... special.

they were on ec rock, that's why, but the creeps prolly thought they could take me out regardless with enough spike, was funny, we took turns, by the end there were close to 20 by the time they got us. decent ranked creeps, but they farm themselves for their ranks,

Originally Posted by loki84

reavers....... hit hard, there is a threshold you need to be above for reavers, but you gotta be able to hit em back too, i'd suggest a balanced build against a reaver

reavers have ONE skill that hits hard, and even then it crits for around 1k on geared light armours with audacity. DS. other than that, reavers dont hit hard, they just hitt fast, even if not as fast as they used to

Originally Posted by loki84

that said, as an rk you don't wanna hit like a pansy either, creeps lose respect for those that hit like wimps.

Nonsense, glass cannon builds are just a cheap way to rack up renown in the relative safety of the zerg and that doesn't get any respect.

Survival build is the best way to go out there. With capped tactical mitigation, full audacity and around 8K morale...the RK becomes an absolute beast. Top it off by traiting WoH and adding its legacy to your moors bag.

I have seen higher DPS builds with around 7200-7500 morale be quite effective, but pure glass cannon builds are only suitable for raid babies looking to get targeted first, leeching renown while incapacitated.

Originally Posted by Equendil

Nonsense, glass cannon builds are just a cheap way to rack up renown in the relative safety of the zerg and that doesn't get any respect.

i meant for soloers, perhaps i shoulda clarified that, and the zerg is less safe for rk's because the opposing zerg will always focus them first, anything that gets focused dies, so they might as well dps as hard as they can, because dps is their job

also mathematically higher dps is better vs 2 opponents at once than a survival build. since this is my most frequent situation i at least find dps to be stronger, but it varies, you can always carry gear for re-equipping on the fly.

Survival build wins over dps build easily while soloing, been there, tested it, and i fare much better, escpecially against wargs when i have over 8k morale and tact mit hovering at 7k or above topped with maxed audacity... And yes, pure glass cannon builds work wonders in raid, the crits are just loltastic :P

Originally Posted by loki84

lol they must be pretty fail creeps haha.

You should come visit and watch the guy, will prob teach u a thing or two