+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 15 of 15
  1. #1
    Counter of Stairs Online status: Snoman73 is offline Reputation: Snoman73 the Wary Snoman73 the Wary Snoman73 the Wary Snoman73 the Wary
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Alabama
    Posts
    773

    3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    To those of you that run this setup, which pieces of each set do you run and why? getting close to being able to start picking up these pieces

  2. #2
    Grand Member Online status: DelgonTheWise is offline Reputation: DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    2,876

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snoman73 View Post
    To those of you that run this setup, which pieces of each set do you run and why? getting close to being able to start picking up these pieces
    Have a look here, it has stats for all the end game armor sets:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...wMUhOOXc#gid=9

    I use:
    Chest
    Legs
    Boots

    Why? Because the seemed the best to me compared to the Dagor alternatives. Note that no perseverance pieces have finesse, btw.

  3. #3
    Grand Member Online status: Armitas is offline Reputation: Armitas the Indomitable Armitas the Indomitable Armitas the Indomitable Armitas the Indomitable Armitas the Indomitable Armitas the Indomitable Armitas the Indomitable Armitas the Indomitable Armitas the Indomitable Armitas the Indomitable Armitas the Indomitable
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    2,331

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    I picked the 3 pieces of perseverance with crit and tactical mastery on them which were the helm, chest and gloves. The helm, chest, gloves each have 352 tactical mastery and crit. I chose these to support in healing, and crit crying.



  4. #4
    Grand Member Online status: DelgonTheWise is offline Reputation: DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    2,876

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Armitas View Post
    I picked the 3 pieces of perseverance with crit and tactical mastery on them which were the helm, chest and gloves. The helm, chest, gloves each have 352 tactical mastery and crit. I chose these to support in healing, and crit crying.
    We only overlap on 1 choice, guess we had different priorities

    I see the perseverance helm as much worse than the Dagor helm. I don't value the 320 power THAT highly, and the dagor helm has lots more might, vit, and has 1k finesse, all of which I find desirable. Gloves also look rather worse that Dagor to me. For healing, the extra might seems like it is really good for OGH.

  5. #5
    Grand Member Online status: Omen_Kaizer is online now Reputation: Omen_Kaizer the Watcher of Roads Omen_Kaizer the Watcher of Roads Omen_Kaizer the Watcher of Roads Omen_Kaizer the Watcher of Roads Omen_Kaizer the Watcher of Roads Omen_Kaizer the Watcher of Roads Omen_Kaizer the Watcher of Roads Omen_Kaizer the Watcher of Roads Omen_Kaizer the Watcher of Roads Omen_Kaizer the Watcher of Roads Omen_Kaizer the Watcher of Roads
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Mississippi
    Posts
    1,460

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    O.O they messed up the distribution of stats on the gloves. which sucks because I grabbed them cause they were cheap and I trusted them to not screw up. Also I deliberately avoided the power on the helm and shoulders, while I liked the agi on the dagor breast.

    The perseverance gloves have 6 total stat slices, 1 being audacity. everything else has 7. Command, Loyalty... Dagor (even though dagor is wierd with fractions of slices [3 slices of might, 0.8 slice of morale, 2.4 slice of vit, 0.8 slice of crit, total 7])

    See here for what I mean by stat slices: http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...-Budgets-(RoI)

    and here for a quick reference http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...plete-Overview
    Last edited by Omen_Kaizer; May 03 2012 at 05:00 PM.

    Rechart, Warden
    Plate Metal Jacket

  6. #6
    Member Online status: Nouhau is offline Reputation: Nouhau the Neutral
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    75

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    Quote Originally Posted by DelgonTheWise View Post
    Have a look here, it has stats for all the end game armor sets:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...wMUhOOXc#gid=9

    I use:
    Chest
    Legs
    Boots

    Why? Because the seemed the best to me compared to the Dagor alternatives. Note that no perseverance pieces have finesse, btw.
    I have this. Didn't calculate anything but to me it seemed to be the best after about 30 minutes of comparison.

  7. #7
    Counter of Stairs Online status: Snoman73 is offline Reputation: Snoman73 the Wary Snoman73 the Wary Snoman73 the Wary Snoman73 the Wary
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Alabama
    Posts
    773

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    so does everyone that runs this setup use the limlight jewellry sets for might then?

  8. #8
    Grand Member Online status: DelgonTheWise is offline Reputation: DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated DelgonTheWise the Undefeated
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    2,876

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snoman73 View Post
    so does everyone that runs this setup use the limlight jewellry sets for might then?
    Currently I'm using martyr + a might set. Martyr clickie is so much better than might set clickies, and martyr stats are useful. But I'm working on getting teal pieces for all 3 sets so I can swap it around as needed.

  9. #9
    Member Online status: Don_eu is offline Reputation: Don_eu the Neutral
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    45

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    I use Perseverance chest, leg, boots. Must admit, part of that descision came from the fact that there are no cosmetic outfits in the moors ;-)

    No crit rating on the LG earrings and I like the etten-rings so I don´t use any of the LG jewels

    /Donothir, Snowbourn

  10. #10
    Grand Member Online status: Almagnus1 is offline Reputation: Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    5,495

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Don_eu View Post
    I use Perseverance chest, leg, boots. Must admit, part of that descision came from the fact that there are no cosmetic outfits in the moors ;-)

    No crit rating on the LG earrings and I like the etten-rings so I don´t use any of the LG jewels

    /Donothir, Snowbourn
    I can't check what's in game, but I'm fairly certain the Victor and Exemplar earrings have crit on them.

  11. #11
    Counter of Stairs Online status: Snoman73 is offline Reputation: Snoman73 the Wary Snoman73 the Wary Snoman73 the Wary Snoman73 the Wary
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Alabama
    Posts
    773

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    yea, my plan was 3 pers and 3 dagor, plus both might Limlight sets and some might heavy wrists, really wanna max might for outgoing healing etc

  12. #12
    Grand Member Online status: Almagnus1 is offline Reputation: Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    5,495

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    I can't check what's in game, but I'm fairly certain the Victor and Exemplar earrings have crit on them.
    Oh, I remember what the logic behind both earrings were:

    If you take both, the extra +600 tactical master and + 600 physical mastery is like a free +60 might (without the defensive bonuses).

    Sadly RL did the Jedi mind trick of "Your job shall eat you, and you shall have no play time" and I responded with a /sniffle

  13. #13
    Junior Member Online status: wylietimes is offline Reputation: wylietimes the Neutral
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    1

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    I really like this critcry cappy build, but since I'm only premium i'm wondering if it's even worth going VIP for a month for (based on the fact RoR is more or less around the corner). I've looked around here but it almost seems unanimous that either this build or possibly the full menestaid is preferred. What I'm wondering is if a 4 piece dagor/ 2 piece menestaid seems like a viable alternative for a non-vip critcry build. I realize that one of the main reasons for the perseverance armor is the cry cooldown, but as some have said, it seems almost OP.

  14. #14
    Junior Member Online status: Theorl is offline Reputation: Theorl the Wary Theorl the Wary
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    6

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    Quote Originally Posted by wylietimes View Post
    I really like this critcry cappy build, but since I'm only premium i'm wondering if it's even worth going VIP for a month for (based on the fact RoR is more or less around the corner). I've looked around here but it almost seems unanimous that either this build or possibly the full menestaid is preferred. What I'm wondering is if a 4 piece dagor/ 2 piece menestaid seems like a viable alternative for a non-vip critcry build. I realize that one of the main reasons for the perseverance armor is the cry cooldown, but as some have said, it seems almost OP.
    Full Menestaid is really not the way to go imo. If you wanna go Menestaid, you'll be better of with 3 draigoch + 3Menestaid for both the 3set-bonuses. (To boost Valiant Strike) You can pretty much keep valiant strike up constantly with this build in 6mans/raids


    One of the four Taralom brothers.

  15. #15
    Grand Member Online status: Almagnus1 is offline Reputation: Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated Almagnus1 the Undefeated
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    5,495

    Re: 3 Dagor + 3 Perseverance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Theorl View Post
    Full Menestaid is really not the way to go imo. If you wanna go Menestaid, you'll be better of with 3 draigoch + 3Menestaid for both the 3set-bonuses. (To boost Valiant Strike) You can pretty much keep valiant strike up constantly with this build in 6mans/raids
    If you do that, be sure to run with a herald for an additional -5 seconds on VS. With enough HoTs that will be going around, should be able to keep a herald of war/hope alive long enough to make good use of it.

    Also, 3 Draigoch + 3 Perserverance is tasty. You start having VS Spam XD

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts