Thread: 2012 : The end of the Moors...

Originally Posted by Thane9

I like trashy female models. As long as there are non-trashy options as well.

I'm pretty far removed from teenaged these days, and I'd suggest I'm not a particularly sexist guy.

To each his own I guess.

The more variety the better.

On competative PvP:

I personally believe LotRO is designed not to be exclusively competative, but to offer competative potential.

This is where I think LotRO shines, not lacks. It's the dynamic nature of open PvMP that provides both competative and non-competative encounters that is FUN to me. I know some would prefer a more "chess-like" situation where both sides are evenly matched, but I honestly enjoy the unpredictability that can ONLY come from this mixed open environment.

It's why i'm so adamantly against many of the playstyles that attempt to strip that variance and unpredictibilty from the game.

I enjoy matched games, don't get me wrong. I just don't need that from LotRO. I get it elsewhere.

For creeps who complain and whine, the answer is clear and simple. Freeps have to pay on a regular basis to get in, creeps dont. U can buy some tp to unlock a warg/whatever and play that class without paying anything. So, solution? make creep pvp payable on a regular basis, then turbine makes more money and will actually try to make pvp more balanced.

FYI, tons of people out there who are on premium/not paying anything to turbine on a regular basis, so essentially you are playing this game for free. Yet such high expectations for something free.

Period.

Originally Posted by WayneTan

For creeps who complain and whine, the answer is clear and simple. Freeps have to pay on a regular basis to get in, creeps dont. U can buy some tp to unlock a warg/whatever and play that class without paying anything. So, solution? make creep pvp payable on a regular basis, then turbine makes more money and will actually try to make pvp more balanced.

FYI, tons of people out there who are on premium/not paying anything to turbine on a regular basis, so essentially you are playing this game for free. Yet such high expectations for something free.

Period.

Oh really? That explains all the content developed for PvMP during those years that everyone had to subscribe!

Most of the ladies playing in GW2 with us do not in any way have a trashy look about them. It is always in how you choose to present yourself, the choices you make that others will view, or come to view your characters. I like the fact that in GW2 the women look like women, and not just a spritzed up version of their male counterpart.

I also agree that all too often females in an online game are tailored to appeal to the male player. I somehow think that the gaming industry has not awaken to the fact that the female players in online games has tripled. But in most games therew are options in dress to compensate for some juvenile developers urge to see boobies on his artwork. NC Soft does have a more advanced character creator which allowed the player to adjust the attributes of their female characters. I do not know why this was, as of yet not added to GW2. Perhaps they will before the release date.

I play on Silverlode, but I hear this stuff about how Landroval community is so great compared to ours, should I roll on here and play? Thanks for the reply .

Originally Posted by Drakojan

I play on Silverlode, but I hear this stuff about how Landroval community is so great compared to ours, should I roll on here and play? Thanks for the reply .

Actually the community on Landy, on the whole is a good one. There may be times when reading our forums that may seem otherwise. I suggest you roll something, and give her a go. Worse that can happen is that you decide we are not a good fit.

Originally Posted by Arvaen

WL/Warg duo? 6v2s are fun.

Still probably my favorite creepside fight in this game ever actually. I still sit there and go, "how did we do that??" But really, I know how

Originally Posted by Arvaen

I hope you give the WvW another chance. Of course the zergs will happen, but they'll be terribly ineffective overall when faced with coordinated small groups. We've seen that both in BWE1 and the stress test. The zerg can sit pounding at the gates of a citadel for 20 minutes while half a dozen people bleed them of supply or flip their home world. In any case the action has been very fast and heavy. Always something to be done.

As to the community... I feel like we've laid the foundation for a strong one over there (considering it's mostly Landy folks so far ).

I played on Monday and man, I just didn't enjoy the WvW again. I am on Sorrow's Furnace for now. I assume there will be different servers when it launches?

I spent more time in structured PvP (which I dig - but I will say that I think TOR does instanced PvP better so far), but when I went out to WvW, I ran around for about an hour. I saw 2 other friendlies for the first 45 minutes. They all seemed to know where to go but I was pretty much floundering around. Then I killed a ####-ton of NPCs while trying to figure out where the actual fight was. No one was talking in chat (and no one talked in chat in structured either - also unlike TOR where you have to use it to win b/c you can't 8 man queue there and not everyone pre-mades in VoIP).

Then I found the zerg by accident and I got roflstomped and then spawn camped, lol! I mean it was fine but yeah, I can already see that my personal playstyle wouldn't fly there. I'm already a lone wolf in Lotro, and in GW2, it seems like unless you roll with a big group of players, you're pretty much going to have a bad experience in WvW. It's entirely possible I am wrong here, but this is just what I experienced in the few times I tried it.

There's a lot I don't like about it so far. But then, I have really limited experience with it obviously

Originally Posted by Aedon

Actually the community on Landy, on the whole is a good one. There may be times when reading our forums that may seem otherwise. I suggest you roll something, and give her a go. Worse that can happen is that you decide we are not a good fit.

Alright, thanks. Contemplating whether I should join a kin or make one...

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

I played on Monday and man, I just didn't enjoy the WvW again. I am on Sorrow's Furnace for now. I assume there will be different servers when it launches?

I've thinking they'll release more servers, seeing how full the ones for Beta have been. We've been working from Jade Quarry. Everything should be wiped for the second BWE, so we could all choose new servers if we wanted.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

I spent more time in structured PvP (which I dig - but I will say that I think TOR does instanced PvP better so far), but when I went out to WvW, I ran around for about an hour. I saw 2 other friendlies for the first 45 minutes. They all seemed to know where to go but I was pretty much floundering around. Then I killed a ####-ton of NPCs while trying to figure out where the actual fight was. No one was talking in chat (and no one talked in chat in structured either - also unlike TOR where you have to use it to win b/c you can't 8 man queue there and not everyone pre-mades in VoIP).

I haven't gotten into the structured PvP yet, and my experiences solo have been limited. I need to figure out how to drop people quicker, or at least control their movements better. As it is fights seem to last so long solo that anyone can just walk away. Maybe things will be different when we're actually level 80 and geared, with all our utility skills and traits unlocked.

As to the chat, there was a lot of local and team chat going on our servers. Though not much in the way of strategic information ATM, since the channels are bugged and everyone can see. Maybe it was partially your server?

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

Then I found the zerg by accident and I got roflstomped and then spawn camped, lol! I mean it was fine but yeah, I can already see that my personal playstyle wouldn't fly there. I'm already a lone wolf in Lotro, and in GW2, it seems like unless you roll with a big group of players, you're pretty much going to have a bad experience in WvW. It's entirely possible I am wrong here, but this is just what I experienced in the few times I tried it.

Like I said, I think things will spread out once people get deeper into WvW. The zerg is just a bunch of people that have no idea where to go so they follow everyone else. We had couple tag alongs ourselves. They'll make next to no use of terrain or choke points, and they won't coordinate their siege or combo fields. While we haven't seen anyone with the "commander" ability, it looks like small groups are going to rule out there.

None of our playstyles will transfer exactly, I think. I would suggest running with us out there, but I get the feeling that perhaps some people don't want to mix? No drama intended.

I may just have to join in with this just to give some other noobs the chance to claim I am Budhorn

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

Originally Posted by Drakojan

Alright, thanks. Contemplating whether I should join a kin or make one...

Depends on how much work you want to put in. There are a lot of friendly helpful kinships to be found.

Originally Posted by Umbrarg

I may just have to join in with this just to give some other noobs the chance to claim I am Budhorn

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

Join with us Hithy, it would be wise to do so.

Originally Posted by Umbrarg

I may just have to join in with this just to give some other noobs the chance to claim I am Budhorn

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

You could be Budhorn if you want, though that might be a bit confusing...

Originally Posted by Arvaen

You could be Budhorn if you want, though that might be a bit confusing...

I think Hithy would make a great Budhorn.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

Then I found the zerg by accident and I got roflstomped and then spawn camped, lol! I mean it was fine but yeah, I can already see that my personal playstyle wouldn't fly there. I'm already a lone wolf in Lotro, and in GW2, it seems like unless you roll with a big group of players, you're pretty much going to have a bad experience in WvW. It's entirely possible I am wrong here, but this is just what I experienced in the few times I tried it.

Seems like a good fit for our fanboys here!


*runs of giggling*

Originally Posted by soccercake7

Seems like a good fit for our fanboys here!


*runs of giggling*

*shakes head*
You are an odd little duck Rotty.

Originally Posted by Arvaen

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None of our playstyles will transfer exactly, I think. I would suggest running with us out there, but I get the feeling that perhaps some people don't want to mix? No drama intended.

I'd fight by your side anytime.

But I cannot justify GW2 when I'm playing LotRO so heavily and still subscribed to SWTOR with 20 or so friends over there wanting me to play with them. Once 8 man queues open up I'll likely play more SWTOR actually...

Originally Posted by whitefox1313

With the imminant departure of a good chunk of the last creep vets toward the *New Game*, im predicting the fallowing future for our beloved Landroval Moors...

As a Landroval player don't you think your server is better insulated against this kind of RPG defection?

I'd say even with raiding and PvP oriented players the amount of Landroval citizens who are there because of Tolkien nerdism and a hoping open mic at the Pony is pretty high.

Originally Posted by Anavalar

As a Landroval player don't you think your server is better insulated against this kind of RPG defection?

I'd say even with raiding and PvP oriented players the amount of Landroval citizens who are there because of Tolkien nerdism and a hoping open mic at the Pony is pretty high.

If you noticed, his post refers to the state of the moors, not the Prancing Pony.

As a long time role-player I can state with certainty that life at the Prancing Pony will continue on no matter what happens in the Ettenmoors. Those who play for the story line, or the joy of building a life and living out their characters in Middle Earth will continue to do so. Rohan is on the horizon, and I am certain that Turbine will continue adding content and items that will serve to enrich the state and advancement of RP. But PVP has and will continue to suffer, and those of us who not only enjoy the story of the Ring, but also a good night of fighting in the moors will look to other venues for an outlet for our more violent side.

The Moors will not end when those of us departing move on. But it will be diminished by the loss of so many long time players. New stories will be written, new tribes born. But each loss of a creep, freep, tribe or kinship erases some part of the History of Landroval.

Originally Posted by Anavalar

As a Landroval player don't you think your server is better insulated against this kind of RPG defection?

I'd say even with raiding and PvP oriented players the amount of Landroval citizens who are there because of Tolkien nerdism and a hoping open mic at the Pony is pretty high.

Most PvPers in Lotro don't RP with any seriousness but yeah, I don't see the RP population being affected on this server. There's a whole subculture here that is pretty intense from what I have seen, lol.

I also don't buy the "all the vets are leaving." A huge number of our highest ranked creeps left in December when TOR launched. Our population recovered just fine and new "Vets" were born as evidenced by how many creeps are now R9+ who were just baby ranks in January, if they existed at all - it just took some time.

No server will be insulated from new games taking players away. But IMO, it's not because GW2 is some ultra game; it's because Lotro is old (and is not WoW). TOR had a pretty significant, but really short impact on this game's PvP population. Not because people came back (although some did - most in fact did not) but because it filled back up with other players so quickly. When I got back from TOR I didn't recognize more than 1/2 the players in the whole zone on either side. But these are the so called vets now. Don't get me wrong, there are people who have played here for 5 years that are in fact going to GW2 - and they really are Lotro PvP veterans - but for the most part, this game's PvP populations have always turned over, leaving only a small group of us who have been consistently active over all the years.

Next time there's a beta weekend, and our characters are wiped.. and I'm able to hopefully switch servers (ended up on Scavenger’s Causeway.) I wouldn't mind playing with you Gill. Which profession did you play?

As Artic said, as a small group I felt pretty effective, but overall we can't treat it like we've been pvping in the same box for the last whatever years. Its a new place, with new players and we aren't really going to know it like we know the Moors. The best thing is, I don't have to ensure I have the best LI's, deeds, armor, levels to get out there. I can go whenever I want. Sure, it helps. But I don't have to feel powerless. I don't have to know that within, if I just HAD that secondary LI maxed it could have changed the fight entirely, it was down to my response time and how the people I was with, worked together. Not how the healer healed me, or how so and so should have grabbed any npc's or something.

Smaller groups have been wiping large zergs easily, if they play /smartly/. Which was the most exciting thing I saw in my small play time in the game. Well that and a new map.. er, maps, underwater trenches, little secret places and how much just me on my own could do and feel effective. I wasn't good in the moors at first. I'm still pretty terrible. But I know the surroundings, the mobs, my attacks, and my enemy. It helps. Thank goodness no subscription fee will make you feel leashed in the game, and I personally believe after all the hype, all the rushes of people come and go in GW2, you'll have a community and a great pvp world experience. But, that's just me, what do I know.

Edit to add; I also don't think the moors will go anywhere. After the disappointment of not getting a new pvp zone when it was advertised in Lotro, we all bitterly hated Turbine for a while.. then just took in a breath and went out there again. It'll always hold some special place for old people who have been out there for 3 or 4+ years, and new people will always wander out to see what is this all about. I don't think much will change.

GW2 Female Model:



A few females in town clothes and armor:
http://www.arena.net/blog/designing-humans

I've seen worse *cough* Tera *cough*. LOTRO does have a nice overall style.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

They all seemed to know where to go but I was pretty much floundering around.

The WvWvW map will actually show you where nearly all fights are occurring via two crossed swords.

You don't even need to ask in chat.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

But IMO, it's not because GW2 is some ultra game; it's because Lotro is old (and is not WoW). TOR had a pretty significant, but really short impact on this game's PvP population. Not because people came back (although some did - most in fact did not) but because it filled back up with other players so quickly.

LOTRO's population then (and forever more) will continue to be buoyed by its FTP status. Good for those that like the game, are lifetime, and/or don't mind the store. Bad for anyone else that dislikes mind numbing grind. (Introduce more grind, and convenience store looks really nice, doesn't it?) And to suggest the grind hasn't increased since the store was launched would be a really funny statement in my book.

Yes LOTRO is old - that's not an issue to me, but it's going the wrong direction for the way I want to play.

• PvP Gating? No thank you. ( I stopped pvping SWTOR at 49 for that reason)
• PvP Gating "Seasons" ?? Are they nuts?
• More LI Grind on top of what's already there? No thank you.

Originally Posted by Obsidian-moth

Next time there's a beta weekend, and our characters are wiped.. and I'm able to hopefully switch servers (ended up on Scavenger’s Causeway.) I wouldn't mind playing with you Gill. Which profession did you play?

As Artic said, as a small group I felt pretty effective, but overall we can't treat it like we've been pvping in the same box for the last whatever years. Its a new place, with new players and we aren't really going to know it like we know the Moors. The best thing is, I don't have to ensure I have the best LI's, deeds, armor, levels to get out there. I can go whenever I want. Sure, it helps. But I don't have to feel powerless. I don't have to know that within, if I just HAD that secondary LI maxed it could have changed the fight entirely, it was down to my response time and how the people I was with, worked together. Not how the healer healed me, or how so and so should have grabbed any npc's or something.

Smaller groups have been wiping large zergs easily, if they play /smartly/. Which was the most exciting thing I saw in my small play time in the game. Well that and a new map.. er, maps, underwater trenches, little secret places and how much just me on my own could do and feel effective. I wasn't good in the moors at first. I'm still pretty terrible. But I know the surroundings, the mobs, my attacks, and my enemy. It helps. Thank goodness no subscription fee will make you feel leashed in the game, and I personally believe after all the hype, all the rushes of people come and go in GW2, you'll have a community and a great pvp world experience. But, that's just me, what do I know.

Edit to add; I also don't think the moors will go anywhere. After the disappointment of not getting a new pvp zone when it was advertised in Lotro, we all bitterly hated Turbine for a while.. then just took in a breath and went out there again. It'll always hold some special place for old people who have been out there for 3 or 4+ years, and new people will always wander out to see what is this all about. I don't think much will change.

Have mostly been playing a Necro. Now I'm told they're OP . What's the weakest perceived profession? I don't want the "minstrel syndrome" to follow me lol!

Maybe I will have a better experience playing with people I know. Let me know where you guys end up. Lee won't be playing but a few of my TOR guildies and Lotro Kinmates will be. Then again, I have a feeling this game is a ways off from launch so who knows.

Edit - also the rest of what you said gives me some hope for any enjoyment of WvW. As described by you, it sounds interesting.

Originally Posted by Radardog

I've seen worse *cough* Tera *cough*. LOTRO does have a nice overall style.

True, Tera is way worse.

I object to the fact that until level 10ish my character was wearing a garter, was showing too much cleavage, and apparently they don't have skirts that cover panties. Seriously, the oversexualization of female characters in any game is just dumb. Do they not realize that women actually like to play games too? *boggle*

Originally Posted by Radardog

The WvWvW map will actually show you where nearly all fights are occurring via two crossed swords.

Yeah, I finally figured that out as I roamed around. I am sure people will talk more when it's live, but I won't lie in saying it reminded me of Ilum - which was, no talking unless trolling.

Originally Posted by Radardog

• PvP Gating? No thank you. ( I stopped pvping SWTOR at 49 for that reason)
• PvP Gating "Seasons" ?? Are they nuts?
• More LI Grind on top of what's already there? No thank you.

Lotro's grind is nothing compared to a lot of other MMOs, so it doesn't bother me. But yeah, I can't say I've been happy with the way the content is going in Lotro generally speaking. However, there's still a whole lot I really love. The PvP "gating" also doesn't bother me, but probably because I am just used to it from other games. TOR has one of the highest gates for PvP that if you don't have expertise you pretty much get farmed until you have enough to stand up for more than 10 seconds. It can be really painful for new players or new 50s. I don't think Lotro's system is as punishing, but I guess they both alienate people coming back to play a game, which is never a good thing.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

Yeah, I finally figured that out as I roamed around. I am sure people will talk more when it's live, but I won't lie in saying it reminded me of Ilum - which was, no talking unless trolling.

The size of EACH map ( 4 of them ) in the WvWvW is way bigger than Ilum, The fights whether big or small groups are so captivating when it comes to tactics , choke points , keep taking , camp siezing , supply caravan kills/protection.

We had so many encounters in such a short period of time ( during 1 weekend ). we just couldnt stop playing. I remember our the 2nd night on saturday we all grouped up in the WvW area and we decided to roam around the opposing server`s map , we started by taking their 2 supply camps and destroying their transitioning caravans to cut off their supply to the first tower , took us about 20 minutes to take out the tower. with battering rams and catapults. blowing up their existing Boiling Oil over the gate ( as opposed to LOTRO it actually works and hurts! ) . after we took that one out we took out another supply camp and started heading towards our first major keep take. took us about 45 minutes to burn through 2 doors and taking out the keep defenders from the other server.

As we took our time to regroup in the keep we established a basic defense with arrow carts and catapults on top of the keep walls. Home world server players approached our walls at first from 1 direction from the outer walls as we defended with the 17 we had in our group plus tag-alongs. after about 1 hour of defending those walls we noticed that their numbers are slowly but surely are rising. as we were about to lose the outer rim walls we all retreated to the inner walls. after a while we noticed that they took out our supply camp. and so we sent some of us to try and take out a different supply camp as a ninja group that left from an underwater gate to head north to get more supplies. after a while they noticed that we had supplies coming from the north so they cut us off from the other gate and so we were surrounded form all directions. multiple attmped by them to build catapults from a distance to take out our main gate to the keep , but we were able to outmaneuver them and take their catapults out.

At long last after about 4 hours of keep defense they managed to amass a good sum of gold to buy a trebuchet and place it so far out of our reach and they managed to take us out , keep it mind at the end there were MASSES of the homeworld`s server players that came for their own keep. but that keep take/defense was SOOOO MUCH BETTER than any keep take/defense LOTRO can EVER provide for our LOTRO pvp.

Everyone in our group that was with us can attest to that without any dispute. the proof is in our crying and bickering over having to end that beta weekend knowing we have to get back to the moors again.
All this time playing on the BWE1 we had the most fun we had in recent years.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

Have mostly been playing a Necro. Now I'm told they're OP . What's the weakest perceived profession? I don't want the "minstrel syndrome" to follow me lol!

Wow, I never would have thought you would have picked that one. I thought I wanted to play that profession when I first jumped in there, I got one to around level 5, then I made a guardian and fell completely in love. And agreed, the starter outfit for clothy's is really...ahem. The moment you see a vendor, buy gear stat lol. I ended up playing with Kymli, Ithiloth (as well as others you probably know) but after a few class tries they both played an elementalist and loved it. Kymli was really great and kinda got the top scores in many structured pvp matches. I know you really enjoy more supportive roles when playing any mmo (come on, I know.) so you might honestly be interested in the elementalist (which has a lot more healing options in water attunement) or guardian, (which is a very melee heavy class, but can also rock a staff and a specter.)

I tried to link a pic of my girl and her nicely covered body, but, no dice. I can't work these forums yet... still in beta. -scoffs-

Anywho -ahem-

I'm.. totally side-curving this conversation, lol.

And yes. I feel more like a customer to Turbine, not a player of their game. Before I used to feel like a welcomed guest, enjoying the rich flavor of lore that kinda settled me into the entire 'mmo' feeling of games, something that I was all 'newb' to. Now.. I feel like I've honestly entered a store, with flashing advertisements as my loading screens, constant choice between spending money or.. grinding endlessly and feeling bad as a raid leader when content isn't tested properly and is just pushed out and then patched up later on.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

Lotro's grind is nothing compared to a lot of other MMOs, so it doesn't bother me. But yeah, I can't say I've been happy with the way the content is going in Lotro generally speaking. However, there's still a whole lot I really love. The PvP "gating" also doesn't bother me, but probably because I am just used to it from other games. TOR has one of the highest gates for PvP that if you don't have expertise you pretty much get farmed until you have enough to stand up for more than 10 seconds. It can be really painful for new players or new 50s. I don't think Lotro's system is as punishing, but I guess they both alienate people coming back to play a game, which is never a good thing.

Actually, LOTRO is way worse, probably one of the worst. Grind your levels, grind your traits and deeds, grind you LIs up. So much worse.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

True, Tera is way worse.

I object to the fact that until level 10ish my character was wearing a garter, was showing too much cleavage, and apparently they don't have skirts that cover panties. Seriously, the oversexualization of female characters in any game is just dumb. Do they not realize that women actually like to play games too? *boggle*

I'm sure you had more clothes than me...

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

I object to the fact that until level 10ish my character was wearing a garter, was showing too much cleavage, and apparently they don't have skirts that cover panties. Seriously, the oversexualization of female characters in any game is just dumb. Do they not realize that women actually like to play games too? *boggle*

I giggled when I first saw the garter in game. How silly can they get? I noticed it was really only the mesmer/necro that had the really "sexy" armour. Med/Heavy classes weren't nearly as awful.

I do not know about the rest of you, but I have never found a character in a video game sexy. It is like saying, man that is one hot Ninja Turtle. I do understand however that some women may find the gear offensive.. Well, from what I found out, there are several types of gear for each armor type. You can mix and match and who knows, perhaps create your own style.

The point is, I am not a teenage boy and I think many of us playing the game are mature enough not to be bothered by the dress or lack there of on a game toon.

Originally Posted by loriendil

I giggled when I first saw the garter in game. How silly can they get? I noticed it was really only the mesmer/necro that had the really "sexy" armour. Med/Heavy classes weren't nearly as awful.

I thought your character looked nice. The gear seemed to suit the class really. She is a mesmer, and I would think such a class would use anything at their disposal to confuse and beguile the foe.

Women do see to get the short end of the sensible stick in game gear for their characters though.

Originally Posted by Obsidian-moth

I know you really enjoy more supportive roles when playing any mmo (come on, I know.) so you might honestly be interested in the elementalist (which has a lot more healing options in water attunement) or guardian, (which is a very melee heavy class, but can also rock a staff and a specter.)

Yeah I do, you're right. I purposely avoided even trying Elementalist because I wanted to give the other ones a try first. On the next BWE I will roll what will probably end up being the real Jaiyne as an Elementalist, heh.

I have to say, I enjoyed the Necro because it plays somewhat like my Balance Sage in TOR - really mobile and tricky to catch up to.

Originally Posted by Arvaen

I'm sure you had more clothes than me...

LMAO! I can't play a Char.

Originally Posted by loriendil

I giggled when I first saw the garter in game. How silly can they get? I noticed it was really only the mesmer/necro that had the really "sexy" armour. Med/Heavy classes weren't nearly as awful.

Lee looked over at my screen and was like, "Gillian, there is no way in hell you're going to enjoy that!" LOL. Why a garter, ffs. At least put a pistol in it or something.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

LMAO! I can't play a Char.

You know, I thought that too. But then Kymli rolled one so we all joined her in 'cat lands' and even max liked it. The movement.. felt right? Its so hard to explain, it was kinda like being on a warg and it didn't bother me as much as I thought it would. But I'm just adding that in!

R15 is without a doubt a bigger grind than any MMO.

If there's one bigger I'd love to hear about it.

Originally Posted by Thane9

R15 is without a doubt a bigger grind than any MMO.

If there's one bigger I'd love to hear about it.

Rank grind in Lotro PVP is a real pain in the backside. I knew well that when I hit rank 12 that would be the end for me as far as ranking up goes. I do not have the time nor the desire to push any further.

Come be a creep Luc, you would make a lovely spider. *grins*

Originally Posted by Aedon

Rank grind in Lotro PVP is a real pain in the backside. I knew well that when I hit rank 12 that would be the end for me as far as ranking up goes. I do not have the time nor the desire to push any further.

Come be a creep Luc, you would make a lovely spider. *grins*

I thought the same thing with R11 and R12...now I'm knocking on the door of R13. It's strange how the renown keeps adding up and never goes down....

I'm at least a couple years away from R15...depending if I push real hard or if I take time to play SWTOR some or a couple weeks to check out Diablo3....or who knows what else that may come down the road. It's taken me this long to get to 1.5mil, at that same rate it'd be another 7 years or so...but things have sped up considerably compared to those days...as the mad rash of R9+s on the server can attest to.

Originally Posted by Dolmir

This ^^^^^^




It's not funny, the extra boobage is seriously hampering my ability to play. I propose a nerf to GW2 boobs.

You just need a special lap keyboard that's arched and gives you more 'room' where you need it. That and a special keyboard cover. I buy them in bulk and know a guy, so hit me up if you need the contact info...

Gut *sha boing boing* Out!

GW2 definetly takes castle defence to a whole new level, but I did notice that there was 100% a proverbial "STAB" location where people just mindlessly mashed buttons and got no rewards.

As a matter of fact, STAB was better than this little area between each color's base and the middle. We'll see how that works out.