Thread: 2012 : The end of the Moors...

With the imminant departure of a good chunk of the last creep vets toward the *New Game*, im predicting the fallowing future for our beloved Landroval Moors...


- Freeps kills will be so rare that they gonna brag in OOC when they reach 100 Renown gain in a 8 hours playing session.

- Budhorn will curse those *damn creeps cowards that are hiding in their keeps* when someone in his raid will politely remind him that its not possible, since the last red keep sighting is 3 months old.

- Memories of creep zergs will fade to become legends, then myths, that newer freeps will listen from older players and smile in disbelief.

- OC will be under constant siege by brainless freeps hordes, mumbling *Reeeee....Noooownnn...Reeeee. ...Noooownnn....*, and defended by 2-3 greenies.

- Hunters will tell other freeps about sightings near Gram of a mysterious ghostly Uruk, in the shape of a rank 13 Warleader, whispering: *I...know...how...things...wor k...*

- The rare greenies at Gram will see constant stream of freavers pourring out toward some mysterious and secret location.

- Sars will be REALLY alone at xroad.


Yup, 2012 will be the end of the Moors. The Mayans were right !

As Metallica sang - Sad but True (most likely)

Originally Posted by NakedSingularity

As Metallica sang - Sad but True (most likely)

nah.. as long as dance emotes work folks can rock out in the Moors with the Queen of Salsa (RIP)

Originally Posted by Fraegster

nah.. as long as dance emotes work folks can rock out in the Moors with the Queen of Salsa (RIP)

Okay, that scared me.

Celie Cruz, queen of salsa, that video is probably not the best way to get into her music, was made a few years before she passes away.. try this one:




I can just see it now, as the numbers dwindle, wargs will be come these rare nearly extinct creatures. Myths will grow about the legendary Salsa Dancing Warg with his paws of flames, dancing under the full moon on top of Candy Mountain.

Wyver, you are very, very weird. I started a humourous thread on a *end of the world* Moors vision, and you derailled the thread , starting at post 3, on some totally irrelevent Salsa thing.

Im impressed

Dont worry, I, and in my opinion many others, will still come and play LOTRO.
I've been playing lotro since dec 2007. The Landroval community we built is great. The memories plentiful, and the people we meet are awesome.

Everyone was saying the same thing when star wars came out....we all know how that went.

I have been waiting to use my RDJ picture!

Originally Posted by shilow7

Everyone was saying the same thing when star wars came out....we all know how that went.

Yeah, but more than 20 creeps vet and other been all together in beta and planning leaving lotro pvp for GW2, that tells me something. Anyways time will show. I can see many freeps start playing creeps after GW2 because creep population will go down.

As a relatively newbie freep/creep player, I'm personally not feeling *that* pessimistic about the future of the Moors. As long as LotRO stays alive, so will PvMP in some form or other. If and when today's "regular" crowd leaves, perhaps a new community will spring up there... who's to say whether it'll be better or worse than the old one? Only time can tell. I'm looking forward to many more hours of warg-style fun, and to seeing new faces out there as often as possible.

On a separate note -- Wyver, I think you have the most awesome taste in music. I'm a salsa fan too! We should talk sometime.

There will always be someone to punch in the face at XRoads... Search your feelings, you know this is true.

Anyone here know what tongue in cheek means? I loled Bio

Which cheek?


Yo Gutlard!.... Finish this thread off bro....

Originally Posted by sarefx

Yeah, but more than 20 creeps vet and other been all together in beta and planning leaving lotro pvp for GW2, that tells me something. Anyways time will show. I can see many freeps start playing creeps after GW2 because creep population will go down.

Dont forget ALOT of creeps..namely almost all of The White Hand left for SW and we survived..someone else will step up and we will be ok

Originally Posted by robc73usa

Dont forget ALOT of creeps..namely almost all of The White Hand left for SW and we survived..someone else will step up and we will be ok

Took the words right out of my mouth!



Or computer? :P

This thought line has been going on for years, but the Moors continues. Every so often, a new games comes out, we flush the toilet and lose a few...new ones come. Total cycle. I tried GW2 this weekend...it kept me entertained like SWTOR did, but you see how that went. I'll most liekly try it, as I pre-ordered, but I'm not going to get too excited. Of the beta weekend, I didn't bother playing Sunday...I'm not sure if I was bored of the game or didn't want to continue as the characters were getting flushed the next day.

I don't recall anyone suggesting Landroval Moors were going to die after TWH moved on. Certainly didn't come from me if it was.

Originally Posted by robc73usa

Dont forget ALOT of creeps..namely almost all of The White Hand left for SW and we survived..someone else will step up and we will be ok

Just to clarify things: Im not suggesting or wishing that LOTRO pvp die. This game has been my first MMO and will always have a special place in my heart, as long as i will be playing online. I remember the thrill when i first entered the Old Forest 5 years ago (i still consider this area as one of the best, immersion wise). I remember the excitement of my first Carn Dum run as a healer. My best PvE raiding memories are linked to The Rift.

So no, i dont wish LOTRO any harms. But if only the game devs would have gave a bit more attention to their PvP playersbase, with new content from time to time, with minimum communication and heads up in forums, and figured out a better faction balance, i wouldnt ever consider switching game. This community is great, certainly the best i saw accross all other MMOs i tried over the last 5 years. And theres no doubt it will continue after the *Next Game* release. But when the community is all that left to keep you login in, then theres a problem. You end up with a 15G chat client, thats it.

I started this thread as an attempt to have people posting their *after new game release* personnal vision of the Moors, in a comical way.

Please dont see this as an attack toward LOTRO itself.

What is this comical you speak of, Bio? Forums are Serious Business.

I very much doubt that those of us who go to GW2 for more PVP and a new series of quests to do will totally forsake Lotro. We still can look down the pipe to Rohan, and the advancing of the story line. It was not PvP which drew me to Lotro seeing that I came from a heavy RP background. It was living out and playing out the story of the fellowship.

PvP enhanced the game not because I am some uber fighter, this for sure I am not. But the community of the moors drew me in, first freep-side, and later as a full blown and proud creep. And though many of us have moved on, and the spirit diminished a bit, there will always be those who step forward and fill in the void.

Will Lotro endure? That is not in the hands of the player but in those of the devs. Much has been done, but so much more can be added. Lotro is a game which is interwoven with a great tale, but it must also carry with it the hopes of those who have payed for, and play the game.

In any business, you must give the customers what they ask, or they will in time move on to another seeking that. In any game the players must be stimulated and somewhat content to continue to log in day in and out. I am content with some aspects of Lotro, but not with the state of PvP as it is. The cause for discontent cannot be levied on those others who play, but on the lack of attention given.

I have a tribe and a Kinship to tend, so I will be around in some form to see to it things continue. Pounce will stalk Budhorn some nights, as he has over the years. But I need more to PvP then what we have had over the past couple of updates, and for now, GW2 seems to fill that need.

Well i will still be here snapping necks
The sooner you all get out the more points i will make

Originally Posted by necksnapper

Well i will still be here snapping necks
The sooner you all get out the more points i will make

*chuckles* This made me smile Neck.

I'm not saying I won't miss any of the creeps leaving for GW2, I'm sure I will. However, people come and people go. Most come back home. On the same token, where some leave for other things, there has been and I imagine always will be new players coming in. Not one of us is irreplaceable.

The funniest part about this thread is the ego trip.

I'm not playing nearly as much as I used to, and considering how awesome I am compared to everyone else put together, the only logical conclusion is that the moors are ALREADY dead. The effect of GW2 will be negligible due to this fact. Only Danuf would dispute this, if you dispute it, you are Danuf.

End.

And you'll still have 'ol Linky to put up with, he's not going anywhere.... which cheek was that again Sars?


..::Link::..

The moors has been falling since the level 50 cap, Moria pvp was ok, but no where near what it was at 50 cap, pvp is different across ALL servers, freeps have been OP for a reason, just not because turbine didn't want creeps to be completely under powered. The difference is the way people fight with what they're given. Most servers are stacked with 3:1 odds rushing at each others trying to overcome odds and fight to the death. Landroval is hugging npcs trying to never die for the most part. You guys can blame the devs all you want, but they've given you the option to play as a server, but we're the people ruining how our pvp works(although I do realize we can't control how even the classes are matched except fighting with lessened numbers then other people). Half the people on this server only play one side and complain without any issues, these are the people who ruin the server, the people who only have a bias to one side. I will be the first to admit I like playing the OP side, but i realize just how overpowered I am and I don't flip out when we roll even numbers, hardly 2:1 numbers unless it's a good group of creeps.

Anyway, LOTRO has never been about pvp, always hate to see people leave a game, but if you are just here for the pvp and never like to pve, blame yourself for expecting the best pvp ever in a game that turbine has officially announced mostly as just a pve game time and time again. Would I like balanced pvp? yes I would, but if I was just here for the pvp I would of left here long ago. I wish all of you who leave the best of luck where ever you go, but just remember, playing Lotro for pvp is like going to guildwars to pve and never pvp.(fyi, Google chrome is awesome for spell check when posting these

Originally Posted by crl13107

The moors has been falling since the level 50 cap, Moria pvp was ok, but no where near what it was at 50 cap, pvp is different across ALL servers, freeps have been OP for a reason, just not because turbine didn't want creeps to be completely under powered. The difference is the way people fight with what they're given. Most servers are stacked with 3:1 odds rushing at each others trying to overcome odds and fight to the death. Landroval is hugging npcs trying to never die for the most part. You guys can blame the devs all you want, but they've given you the option to play as a server, but we're the people ruining how our pvp works(although I do realize we can't control how even the classes are matched except fighting with lessened numbers then other people). Half the people on this server only play one side and complain without any issues, these are the people who ruin the server, the people who only have a bias to one side. I will be the first to admit I like playing the OP side, but i realize just how overpowered I am and I don't flip out when we roll even numbers, hardly 2:1 numbers unless it's a good group of creeps.

Anyway, LOTRO has never been about pvp, always hate to see people leave a game, but if you are just here for the pvp and never like to pve, blame yourself for expecting the best pvp ever in a game that turbine has officially announced mostly as just a pve game time and time again. Would I like balanced pvp? yes I would, but if I was just here for the pvp I would of left here long ago. I wish all of you who leave the best of luck where ever you go, but just remember, playing Lotro for pvp is like going to guildwars to pve and never pvp.(fyi, Google chrome is awesome for spell check when posting these

I rarely agree with u lately, but it was excellent point, I totally agree with everything u said. I plan on staying in lotro for pve, maybe pvp once in while, but going to GW2 for good balanced pvp =)

Originally Posted by sarefx

GW2 for good balanced pvp =)

Yeah, it's still got a ways to go before it's balanced.

I'm still going to try it. I find the PvE, different, but meh. When I did try to go to the PvP area I was cued forever (bad day to try on stress test weekend), so I'll have to try that next beta weekend.

I cannot get past the female character models. Seems like a small thing but to me they are absolute trash. In Lotro, yeah you might have a mullet, but at least you don't look like an anime hooker.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

I cannot get past the female character models. Seems like a small thing but to me they are absolute trash. In Lotro, yeah you might have a mullet, but at least you don't look like an anime hooker.

Half the female models bear a strange resemblence to Zooey Deschanel.

Originally Posted by Reichpapers

I'm still going to try it. I find the PvE, different, but meh. When I did try to go to the PvP area I was cued forever (bad day to try on stress test weekend), so I'll have to try that next beta weekend.

Did you try and Cue up for Eternal battlegrounds map among the 4 maps that are available ?
if it had a Cue time you should go to any of the other 3 maps there that are constantly in battle.

Our crew went all over the 3 other maps and dominated all day on last monday was PURE fun. Total Non stop Action!

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

I cannot get past the female character models. Seems like a small thing but to me they are absolute trash. In Lotro, yeah you might have a mullet, but at least you don't look like an anime hooker.

That's just absurd.

For such a good player, how do you justify staying in LOTRO, this is a POS. In fact you are constantly saying you know how OP your class is and side is, yet, even though you have creep toons, you continue to play the /faceroll side. That makes no sense to me.

GW2 will hurt this game, its plain to see.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

I cannot get past the female character models. Seems like a small thing but to me they are absolute trash. In Lotro, yeah you might have a mullet, but at least you don't look like an anime hooker.

This is actually a selling point for me, all of my characters are female. I only wish there was a way to remove the gear without hampering the stats.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

I cannot get past the female character models. Seems like a small thing but to me they are absolute trash. In Lotro, yeah you might have a mullet, but at least you don't look like an anime hooker.

hrmm...I may need to check this GW game out....

Originally Posted by oninoakuma

That's just absurd.

For such a good player, how do you justify staying in LOTRO, this is a POS. In fact you are constantly saying you know how OP your class is and side is, yet, even though you have creep toons, you continue to play the /faceroll side. That makes no sense to me.

GW2 will hurt this game, its plain to see.

It's not absurd if you're actually female. It may not bother other women, but I can't stand the pandering to teenage boys (no offense to our young players). The trashy female models are sexist. Plain and simple.

As for why I don't play creepside more than I do? A few reasons. The biggest of which is that people are really uncool with me when I try to (unless I am playing my completely unknown BA and then it's funny how people act to me, lol). I have literally had to turn off OOC because it sucks to be harassed by fools who don't know me but are just so angry at a game that they act like complete tools. There are other reasons too but that is a big one.

I am pretty secure in how I approach PvP in this game. I don't play to overwhelm my opponent; I look for fights that will challenge me; I die more than I kill most days; I run around by myself most of the time; and I don't act like a DB other than perhaps I troll my own side a little too often, as a lot of them can attest to.

GW2 will hurt the game's population, I agree. TOR did, RIFT did, WAR did, D3 is...etc. But it's going to pull from WoW a lot more than Lotro. Lotro is and will always be a niche game for casual gamers that like the story. I don't claim to be some PvP Goddess and Lotro will never have competitive PvP, but I do and have PvP'd in other games and consider myself to be not a complete dolt. I always come back to Lotro because I like the people. The community here in general is really good. It makes the little gaming time I have enjoyable, even if the PvP isn't competitive. I will play GW2 for competitive (structured) PvP - just as I am actually playing TOR again because it looks like they will in fact be launching rated WZs soon. I like competitive PvP but I like also like to play games with decent people, so Lotro will always have that.

Originally Posted by Dolmir

This is actually a selling point for me, all of my characters are female. I only wish there was a way to remove the gear without hampering the stats.

Lawl.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

Lotro is and will always be a niche game for casual gamers that like the story.

This ^^^^^^

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

Lawl.

It's not funny, the extra boobage is seriously hampering my ability to play. I propose a nerf to GW2 boobs.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

It's not absurd if you're actually female. It may not bother other women, but I can't stand the pandering to teenage boys (no offense to our young players). The trashy female models are sexist. Plain and simple.

It is an issue that has been raised, and there's a good chance it will be addressed I think. But if you don't like those character models... you could always roll a Charr, Asura, or Sylvari. None of those races appeal to those female models you don't like.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

As for why I don't play creepside more than I do? A few reasons. The biggest of which is that people are really uncool with me when I try to (unless I am playing my completely unknown BA and then it's funny how people act to me, lol). I have literally had to turn off OOC because it sucks to be harassed by fools who don't know me but are just so angry at a game that they act like complete tools. There are other reasons too but that is a big one.

WL/Warg duo? 6v2s are fun.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

GW2 will hurt the game's population, I agree. TOR did, RIFT did, WAR did, D3 is...etc. But it's going to pull from WoW a lot more than Lotro. Lotro is and will always be a niche game for casual gamers that like the story.

GW2 is as different from WoW as it is from LotRO, and not only in combat mechanics. I think the personal story will be a draw to casual players (those that can get into the more dynamic gameplay elements). LotRO pulls from a crowd that enjoys seeing Tolkien's world expanded upon, I've never been a huge fan of their actual quest writing though and it's only gone downhill over the years. The amount of lorebreaking is pretty significant if you know what to look for.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

I don't claim to be some PvP Goddess and Lotro will never have competitive PvP, but I do and have PvP'd in other games and consider myself to be not a complete dolt. I always come back to Lotro because I like the people. The community here in general is really good. It makes the little gaming time I have enjoyable, even if the PvP isn't competitive. I will play GW2 for competitive (structured) PvP - just as I am actually playing TOR again because it looks like they will in fact be launching rated WZs soon. I like competitive PvP but I like also like to play games with decent people, so Lotro will always have that.

I hope you give the WvW another chance. Of course the zergs will happen, but they'll be terribly ineffective overall when faced with coordinated small groups. We've seen that both in BWE1 and the stress test. The zerg can sit pounding at the gates of a citadel for 20 minutes while half a dozen people bleed them of supply or flip their home world. In any case the action has been very fast and heavy. Always something to be done.

As to the community... I feel like we've laid the foundation for a strong one over there (considering it's mostly Landy folks so far ).

I like trashy female models. As long as there are non-trashy options as well.

I'm pretty far removed from teenaged these days, and I'd suggest I'm not a particularly sexist guy.

To each his own I guess.

Editing to add: distastefull to some is ok for others, but clearly misogynistic attitudes and depictions are something completely different. I haven't played GW2 so I'm assuming what we're talking about is a case of the former and not the latter.

I wouldn't want to even suggest I support the latter in any way. Just to clarify.