Thema: Why is it there are sooo many people who only solo?

I understand why OP classes may solo...simply easier and more renown. I remember back when max level was 50, and minnis fulfilled their true role well...as HEALERS. It was a great thing to have a fellow grouped together and working as a team. Playing a slow DPS class and one designed for group play out in the moors where nobody groups but greenies, is simply depressing. The only ones that seem to group together are Kinmates...this makes sense, but it makes just as much sense for non kinnies to group as well. The only time everyone groups together for a raid is when they are being over-powered by the creeps... Ahhh, now that is how it is meant to be. A whole group together running solo is well....stupid. If you want more freeps to enjoy playing the game who are not from an OP class, do us a favor and group up.

Lack of leadership, for one, and lack of good creeps.
Sometimes no one willing (because leading a creep raid can be tiring) or able to lead a creep group is on, and other times they just don't want to try because all the creeps on are r0s with voice chat off and that can't follow ta or simple orders as "on the shield, only on my target".
They do need to learn, and sometimes they need someone to teach them, but it's not happening in mid sized (as in 10-12) fights.
Having said that, i do agree creeps need to group up more.

Zitat von aadaboy19

I understand why OP classes may solo...simply easier and more renown. I remember back when max level was 50, and minnis fulfilled their true role well...as HEALERS.

LOL 'true role', let's forget WAR SPEECH which made them into pretty darned good DPS too.

Stop following tired old and redundant stereotypes, it'll cause you less stress.

Zitat von aadaboy19

I understand why OP classes may solo...simply easier and more renown. I remember back when max level was 50, and minnis fulfilled their true role well...as HEALERS.

You answered your own question right there as to why I solo when I'm out on Darval. The minute I join a group, I am expected to play the way YOU think I should play, rather than as I feel like playing at the moment. As a mini I am always expected to heal rather than dps in raids, and that is all well and good and understandable. If I go the Moors, however, that is what I consider my downtime, and if I want to have fun and pewpew that is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get some kbs of my own rather than heal while everyone else brags and epeens about their kb numbers. I do heal in the Moors occasionally (ask Garz and Thomas :P) but overall I go there to blow off steam and blow things up and the minute I join a group that consists of anything other than a few close friends that option is typically closed.

Clarification - this only applies to freepside, where as it has been stated grouping is most often not needed and my mini is op enough as it is solo. On creepside I do group quite a bit.

Back in SoA days, freep classes were designed more like creeps were. DPS was left to the DPS classes, support to the support classes, etc. For this reason, it was much more necessary for freeps and creeps alike to group up in order to fulfill their potential.

Over the years, though, Turbine has caved to the pressure from solo/PvEers and allowed all freep classes to have more DPS, more self-heals, more survivability than they ever dreamed of in SoA. The lines between class roles were blurred more and more until what we have today was born. Today, all freep classes are solo gods who are completely self-reliant. Though this made levelling and things on PvE side nicer, it led to the rise of the solo zerg in the moors. For better or for worse, freep classes don't group up because they just don't need to; it provides little benefit and comes with the cost of having to listen and follow instructions. So people are lazy and just don't do it.

As for creeps, whoever has been in charge of them never seemed to get this memo. Creep classes today are as synergistic and interdependent as classes (both freep and creep) were designed back in SoA. In order to have a shot, they need to group up. This is also why you see more groups creepside than freepside (although not enough, as Thomas mentions).

TL;DR - The game has changed so that freeps simply don't need to group up in order to perform at a high level. Creeps still do.

I go to make fun of Whiptail.

Zitat von DarvaI

You answered your own question right there as to why I solo when I'm out on Darval. The minute I join a group, I am expected to play the way YOU think I should play, rather than as I feel like playing at the moment. As a mini I am always expected to heal rather than dps in raids, and that is all well and good and understandable. If I go the Moors, however, that is what I consider my downtime, and if I want to have fun and pewpew that is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get some kbs of my own rather than heal while everyone else brags and epeens about their kb numbers. I do heal in the Moors occasionally (ask Garz and Thomas :P) but overall I go there to blow off steam and blow things up and the minute I join a group that consists of anything other than a few close friends that option is typically closed.

Dude, I can totally see your point since you are of the OP classes. Yes it can be said a captain that cannot die for 25 seconds is op, well that can be said if the creep he is attacking stays there and the freep doesnt brand... every creep has at least one slow. I cant tell you how many times I have used last stand and the creep simply slows me and runs away laughing, only to come back when it expires to finish me off. I can see where the new armor where make haste removes slows, but I dont want to have to get All the pieces of armor to be successful and swap sets. Cappy in the moors ungrouped = depressed. Why do you think I am in the moors on my BA so much? (Ineedarez) Its refreshing to get some ranged kills for once. I would like to be able to play my class in the moors, charge in, take damage, spot heal, dps, support, blah blah blah...but when not grouped I can only be marginal.

Perhaps not full groups...obviously not expected when there are only a few creeps out, but still show some cappies some love or at least me when I am out there haha. I help you out, and you help me out. Perhaps i can fill the Heal role while duo and you can DPS...looks backwards, but I dont really care. BTW good kill on me yesterday by STAB while you were on Darval. Bad dog!!

Zitat von Thomasborn

Lack of leadership, for one, and lack of good creeps.
Sometimes no one willing (because leading a creep raid can be tiring) or able to lead a creep group is on, and other times they just don't want to try because all the creeps on are r0s with voice chat off and that can't follow ta or simple orders as "on the shield, only on my target".
They do need to learn, and sometimes they need someone to teach them, but it's not happening in mid sized (as in 10-12) fights.
Having said that, i do agree creeps need to group up more.

There are plenty of good creeps, more so than freeps perhaps... you dont have to be a really good freep to get kills... Also perhaps you misread the thread, it was for Freeps to group or at least duo. I dont care who I duo with on my cappy, I benefit them no matter who or what class they are. I prefer to run with a champ, or minni because the minni can self heal and dps, which allows me to utilize a wide array of skills to assist. Champs are fun to run with too because of their bubbles and if I throw To Arms and give out more damage....can someone say AOE NUKE? But solo, man I suck. Partially because I dont have the full aud gear yet, and my Vit is too low... working on Vit jewelry to get it up. Doesnt help either that up to 9 of my skills require someone else grouped with me to use... I hate heralds, only use them in the moors so I can use these skills, but would rather not have to use them. Ehh, just a complaining thread I guess. I actually would like to get into a kin where they PVP a lot. Any ideas? Unfer is the only one in my kin who is consistently out there to PVP with me and I group with him, but would be nice to get a group with others as well.

Zitat von DarvaI

The minute I join a group, I am expected to play the way YOU think I should play, rather than as I feel like playing at the moment. As a mini I am always expected to heal rather than dps in raids, and that is all well and good and understandable.

As soon as I can group heal on my champ, I'll relieve you of that role

Zitat von skippy454

I go to make fun of Whiptail.

I go for Whiptail's uhhh "group sessions".

Oh and Captains can solo just fine against creep classes. Last time I checked Capts also got a slow.... oh and they converted your healing to might somehow so that you wouldn't have to have two builds....should I go on?

Yeah misread you. Assumed your point was that you would love to see overwhelming amount of creeps, so that freeps raids would open up.
Asto said it perfectly....creeps were built for SoA and never got a true revamp. Take for example ba's MT or spiders' catch a prey, that works perfectly for the "old" dps classes, but they are now just useless against the power of minis and rks.
From the other side, you can also see how creeps have no tactical dps classes. With MoM freeps got RKs, but with creeps it's the same old.
Having said that, the only thing left for you is to get a dps build and learn to solo. Look at Brusef, he can own couple of creeps with his sick crits as a solo zerg.

Zitat von luapremylc

As for creeps, whoever has been in charge of them never seemed to get this memo. Creep classes today are as synergistic and interdependent as classes (both freep and creep) were designed back in SoA. In order to have a shot, they need to group up. This is also why you see more groups creepside than freepside (although not enough, as Thomas mentions).

Although I agree this is generally true, the changes to BAs, spiders, wargs and WLs since ROI belie this to a great extent. Soloing on creepside has gotten significantly easier. Reavers and defilers are still the ugly, neglected children of the creep family though.

Tactical DPS is a whole other issue. In all seriousness, creeps do actually now have a tactical DPS class. Shadow wargs. BPE avoidance and crit-based damage. Now add on stealth and strong CC. They only thing they lack compared to minstrels, RKs and LMs is the group utility those classes can provide (irrelevent to a solo discussion).

I solo for two main reasons: One, I get a lot more renown since the only real use a group has to me is increasing my survivability. Two, I earnestly feel like it'd be unfair to creeps if I were to run around duo'd with a cappy all the time, or in a 3-6 man group at all. It's fairly unusual (at least in my limited experience) that creep #s are just so overwhelming that there is no choice but to group. And if freeps and creeps are evenly matched, the freep group is going to dominate assuming player skill and class diversity is equal. So I prefer it when creeps have numbers, and I choose not to group unless the numbers are so overwhelming that there's no chance to get a kill otherwise.

But, I'm probably going to be trying to convince Vindikator to duo with me now that he's got his new cappy at 75 :P Just for old time's sake!

Zitat von aadaboy19

every creep has at least one slow

False. I was under the same impression, but I'm told the WL slow only applies if a certain shout crits. 'Course, it's entirely coincidental that the only class on either side without a perfectly reliable slow is the nominal "tanking" creep class...

Zitat von jfindlay

Oh and Captains can solo just fine against creep classes. Last time I checked Capts also got a slow.... oh and they converted your healing to might somehow so that you wouldn't have to have two builds....should I go on?

This, this and more this. I can understand cappies aren't the easiest freep class to play, but before you write off your class, I think you should talk to people like Brusef, Arathain etc. They solo all the time on their cappies, and have few problems doing it.

Zitat von Thomasborn

Lack of leadership, for one, and lack of good creeps.
Sometimes no one willing (because leading a creep raid can be tiring) or able to lead a creep group is on, and other times they just don't want to try because all the creeps on are r0s with voice chat off and that can't follow ta or simple orders as "on the shield, only on my target".
They do need to learn, and sometimes they need someone to teach them, but it's not happening in mid sized (as in 10-12) fights.
Having said that, i do agree creeps need to group up more.

Everything he said.

I'm a terrible, and terribly reluctant, raid leader. And yet, I'm one of a handful that lead on creepside anymore. It particularly annoys me when there's a fair number of creeps who have played longer than me, and yet it's "Shap, start a raid!" And yet, if I ask for x's, only a fraction of the creeps that are online typically joins me.

Personally, I blame the fact that a majority of creeps on at most times on Windy are wargs. Not only do very few of them group with you, a good proportion of those that do (after you've either sent them over 9000 IM's pleading them to, or ninja'd them in sheer exasperation ) will run at the merest hint of the raid falling in trouble, teamwork be da___d.

Are you asking in general, or were you looking for individual responses. I am way too new to be able to answer the question generally speaking, but I will tell you why personally I shy away from groups (although I will do them sometimes). 1.) I am shy. 2.) I am terrible and would hate to take other people down with me. I know I know this is pvp and we are all supposed to say we are the uberist but really being honest I am always surprised when I am not dead LOL. 3.) Often times especially during day time hours I am only on for 20 minutes here or there, because I have Mom duties to attend to.

That being said if you are really looking for a group and don't mind taking a chance by grouping with the terrible one send me a tell I might be kinda shy but I am a nice too.

You don't have to heal as a healing class to be in a raid. Ask anyone who was ever in my raids. Im a support class and I dont heal anyone but myself
I guess I would throw a bubble here and there though

Zitat von aadaboy19

I understand why OP classes may solo...simply easier and more renown. I remember back when max level was 50, and minnis fulfilled their true role well...as HEALERS. It was a great thing to have a fellow grouped together and working as a team. Playing a slow DPS class and one designed for group play out in the moors where nobody groups but greenies, is simply depressing. The only ones that seem to group together are Kinmates...this makes sense, but it makes just as much sense for non kinnies to group as well. The only time everyone groups together for a raid is when they are being over-powered by the creeps... Ahhh, now that is how it is meant to be. A whole group together running solo is well....stupid. If you want more freeps to enjoy playing the game who are not from an OP class, do us a favor and group up.

Forgot to mention.....there is no such thing as a non-OP class freepside......

I didn't read what half of you said (and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve) ./disclaimer

If freeps group, creeps log. Even duoing freepside is going to generate some srz qq if it's the right people and/or the right class combo. I'll duo and stuff if things are looking fairly even and small group if creeps outnumber a fair bit, but don't expect me to be x'ing up to Scrub Raid A any time soon.

For me its one thing and one thing only, leaders. In the moors there are not many that can lead. I am not talking about the leaders that scream, KILL KILL KILL WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?!?!?! No, thats not leading, thats just screaming!

Freep side there are a few leaders that I respect and I know can lead well. There are only a handful of leaders that can do it (on both sides). Perfect example was a few weeks ago, we had a horrible leader that had no idea what he was doing. The raid was bad because the leader had no idea what to do and how to handle things. Then Annoula comes to the moors and says lets form up. Everyone left the raid to join Annoula's raid, why? Because we know he is a good leader.

Same for the creeps! Why should we sit there and grp up with a leader that has no clue! Its the sad truth, if we had more "good" leaders things would be a lot different.

I became a soloist years ago, and my primary reason at the time was an honorable one. Now, it comes down to the following reasons:

1. Comfort, it's a different feeling working my own angle in quiet (or with music) compared to the chatter of group or just generally more reading of chat. Might sound odd, but it just takes more effort grouping on the interaction side of things and I tend to feel I play my toon better out of group, perhaps in part because of the lacking distractions.
2. Practicality, being able to drop aggro (easier to manage solo) to regen is kinda important to me at times that I'm not getting power/morale from other freeps, which is often, even in group.
3. Selfishness, yeh, I get quite a bit of credit when out there and I've grown accustomed to hording that credit to myself, even if in larger scale fighting the solo zerg means less glory overall. That is of course credit that I have to deal damage with a guard for, it isn't exactly the optimum pvp toon.
4. I'm elitist, duh. I think it's somewhat natural to get frustrated with folks on your side who aren't performing so well. Even if it's to be expected given their level of experience, I still find it annoying. So, when I'm getting frustrated by the play of the freeps around me (often just at the lack of impetous in their actions) I'll often impart some.. umm.. 'wisdom' to them My being detached somewhat from other freeps by remaining solo; lessens how much I rebuke them (less communication anyway, and out of the group/raid my role is, of course, less reliant on others) :P I naturally try to impart something useful when raging tbh... but I doubt people would want to see/hear too much.

And, capt is perfectly viable solo in the moors now that the phys and tact masteries are both from might (and the slow doesn't hurt)... better in the solo zerg rather than outright solo, but fine nonetheless. If your issue is that you're not well geared, well, blah. Freeps have always had to sustain their pve to keep their toons at/near the top capability, I'd qualify it as part of being a good freep. And of course some classes have always had to do go out of their way more than than others to produce their moors build, but capt is no longer one of them.

I guess the general acceptance of the solo zerg comes from people's experience of how we've skirmished on this server for a long time now, even a number of experienced freeps fighting creeps near their npc's will likely remain solo if only to have more practical control of aggro, and newer freeps learn the approach by example or by lack of choice at those times. It's really just a question of when enough people will feel motivated enough to group up as it's not the norm.

Edit: Yes, my reasons sum-up as my being a selfish and antisocial elitist.

I thank everyone for your responses, even if some of them were off topic.. :/ I dont like using store bought brands to catch slow immunity like other captain's on the server or utilize exploits like other captains on the server...if thats what it takes to make someone a good player, I dont want any part of it. I love playing the captain, and I know it is a viable character in PVP. All I am saying is the captain is "More Effective" in a group, or at least a duo. The thing that really kills me in the moors is getting slowed. A cappy slow is for 25% reduction in run speed. Most creep slows are between 40-50% reduction in run speed...so even with my sprint up I cant catch them. The only way a certain mentioned captain has been able to kill me is by hiding behind trees to regen..blah blah blah.. to me its annoying while on my BA, but when on my captain is a perfectly viable strategy. :P

Captain's could use a revamp in particular, change a few things around. I feel like we were and are designed more for Group and Raid PVE. Thats all fine and dandy if I have heavy armor and can self heal (Which almost all of them require attacking a target) but what is the point if I cannot catch them without branding??

Zitat von Grusk

And, capt is perfectly viable solo in the moors now that the phys and tact masteries are both from might (and the slow doesn't hurt)... better in the solo zerg rather than outright solo

lol...

Zitat von aadaboy19

or utilize exploits like other captains on the server

I can name one Captain exploit and I guarantee it isn't the one you're referring to. Unless you are referring to terrain "exploits" (as it is apparently debatable), then I'm pretty sure you aren't referring to any real exploits.

Zitat von aadaboy19

Captain's could use a revamp in particular, change a few things around. I feel like we were and are designed more for Group and Raid PVE.

It actually sounds like your playstyle can use a revamp, not Captains. Last I saw, all Captains over here still require self-heals to win 1v1s (even though I can count on with my fingers the amount of people that 1v1 here, let alone Captains). Have fun with your -20% on-defeat Audacity set or your "tanking" one. I'll be busy using the better one.

Protip: The tooltip on the Sure-strike set is broken. It provides +10% incoming damage to your target, not +5%. Not that anyone here would know how to use it.

Zitat von aadaboy19

I thank everyone for your responses, even if some of them were off topic.. :/ I dont like using store bought brands to catch slow immunity like other captain's on the server or utilize exploits like other captains on the server...if thats what it takes to make someone a good player, I dont want any part of it. I love playing the captain, and I know it is a viable character in PVP. All I am saying is the captain is "More Effective" in a group, or at least a duo. The thing that really kills me in the moors is getting slowed. A cappy slow is for 25% reduction in run speed. Most creep slows are between 40-50% reduction in run speed...so even with my sprint up I cant catch them. The only way a certain mentioned captain has been able to kill me is by hiding behind trees to regen..blah blah blah.. to me its annoying while on my BA, but when on my captain is a perfectly viable strategy. :P

Captain's could use a revamp in particular, change a few things around. I feel like we were and are designed more for Group and Raid PVE. Thats all fine and dandy if I have heavy armor and can self heal (Which almost all of them require attacking a target) but what is the point if I cannot catch them without branding??

Every Freep class matches up differently with creep classes and vice versa.

Using LOS on ranged targets as they try to kite you is a very effective way to win a fight. I guess I'm not really sure what you are looking for out of your captain. So you're saying that you would like to be able to slow a target 40-50%, so that you can bash on them all while self healing yourself and having a "haha I can't be killed" skill? Where do I sign up for that fight? :P

As Shap said in an earlier post, ask Brusef what he does, as I've watched and been part of him multi killing kiting targets.

Or to the original point, you want to be able to group so that all the other OP classes can kill everything whilst you suck up glory. I have a hard time believing that you cannot find a nuker out there thats willing to duo and have you heal/buff/bubble them, while they wreck people.

Incidentally; it's 25% credit you need on a kill for a defeat response, right? Just came to mind whilst musing...

Zitat von Grusk

Incidentally; it's 25% credit you need on a kill for a defeat response, right? Just came to mind whilst musing...

That or the first hit on the target. Seeing as pretty much all my kills are full renown these days I can't really remember.

During my time leading, or attempting to, I grew incredibly frustrated at the people who would join just to throw up a few buffs or heals then sit there and follow the raid and wait for the renown to come in. Most raids both sides aren't effective because of the players in the raid, not necessarily the leader. Most raids will only put out a fraction of their potential. I have seen groups of 6 perform better than a raid if 12. Anyone who has lead knows the frustration of having 5 ranged DPS classes and only having 2 on target. And its not just my raids, any raid I have been has performed like that.

In regards to cappys or minis being forced to heal in raids, I have personally played both classes (and know the dps potential of a mini) and when joining a raid I want to bring the most I can offer. Which is more often then not healing. I wouldn't force someone to retrait or change how they are playing, but of you aren't contributing anything to the raid don't except us to be successful and don't expect to be invited again.

In regards to most people staying solo, for one refer to my above statements, and two, 9 times out of 10 a raid isn't necessary. Although it is needed more often on creepside then freepside. I also do quite well solo and have built my RKs to be all about solo survival (40% tac. mitigation helps this). I also believe grouping to be stressful due to the added (unwanted) responsibilities. If I group its most often with a good friend or a kinmate. And it is much more effective in terms of renown gain to solo. The only time I go looking for a group is on my WL for obvious reasons.

And now a word on the OPs problems. If you find soloing difficult, and can't get into bigger groups due to reluctant freeps as myself, simply send a tell to an RK or hunter, maybe even a champ. Honestly all you would have to say is HoH cappy trading bubbles and love for dead crepes and renown. I have doued with some of the best cappys and trust me it's like having a raid in your pocket. We would bring in double the renown the raid next to us would. It may be due to only having to split the renown halfway but I would attribute it to 2 players playing effectively rather then a raid if freeps pulling every NPC in TA three times over and only coming out with a few kills.

I think I covered most of it, excuse any spelling and/or grammar mistakes as I am in my phone at work.

Good day windy
-Cupo

Zitat von EmmeraldFireFox

For me its one thing and one thing only, leaders. In the moors there are not many that can lead. I am not talking about the leaders that scream, KILL KILL KILL WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?!?!?! No, thats not leading, thats just screaming!

Freep side there are a few leaders that I respect and I know can lead well. There are only a handful of leaders that can do it (on both sides). Perfect example was a few weeks ago, we had a horrible leader that had no idea what he was doing. The raid was bad because the leader had no idea what to do and how to handle things. Then Annoula comes to the moors and says lets form up. Everyone left the raid to join Annoula's raid, why? Because we know he is a good leader.

Same for the creeps! Why should we sit there and grp up with a leader that has no clue! Its the sad truth, if we had more "good" leaders things would be a lot different.

I agree with 99% of what you said, except that last bit there. I don't claim to personally know anything about Annoula's style or quality of leading, or their character, or anything of the sort. That said, I have been on the receiving end of his (her?) "PvP'ing". Suffice to say it left me both underwhelmed and - ironically - overwhelmed. Go figure.

Anyone that comes out to the moors at peak hours to PvE zerg the map and swat any creep flies (no, I don't mean the R14 defiler traited ones...) who, by trying to fight them (the gall of some folk!), distract them from their PvE objectives will get very little credit from those of us who're actually there for the fight. Zerg us when we're solo 'cause you're actually looking for PvP action? Well and good, we'll probably form up a c'raid to take you on. Zerg us just 'cause we happened to be at TA when you wanted to flip it, pick up comm's and kill off what remains of the PvP action on this dwarf of a server? Sorry, you have another think coming.

On a less cheery note, it's true both sides lack leaders. Funny thing though: the people who deride the current batch of leaders are the very people who will do nothing to help. If I feel like I'm doing even worse a job leading than I usually do, I make it a point to ask if anyone wants to take over. And you know what I get? Either silence, or long-time players telling me my target calling is bad, I did so-and-so wrong, etc. And yet, if I privately ask them to either gimme help or take up lead, they'll refuse. If you can't say or do anything good, please, save your breath.

./End_rant

Zitat von CirdalvalSilnuviel

On a less cheery note, it's true both sides lack leaders. Funny thing though: the people who deride the current batch of leaders are the very people who will do nothing to help. If I feel like I'm doing even worse a job leading than I usually do, I make it a point to ask if anyone wants to take over. And you know what I get? Either silence, or long-time players telling me my target calling is bad, I did so-and-so wrong, etc. And yet, if I privately ask them to either gimme help or take up lead, they'll refuse. If you can't say or do anything good, please, save your breath.

./End_rant

I'm with Shaparo on this. If someone is doing the work to lead then I think those who join up and get the benefit of their leadership should be thankful, and not snarky. Sure there are people who overwhelm me or who's leadership style doesn't work well for me, but at the end of the night at least they stepped up and tried to organize, and help all of their fellow group members. I think that someone who is stepping up and trying to lead deserves the benefit of the doubt, at the very least we should be assuming that their intentions where in the right place.

I have had overwhelmingly positive experiences when I do group. I have found the people who lead by and large are knowledgeable, helpful, give clear instructions, and are easy going and understanding. This has resulted in me learning a lot, and I appreciate that other people are willing to step up and lead, certainly sheparding the noob around isn't easy but they do it and I am thankful for it.

Soooo I am a bit "Rusty" on my captain... Granted there are things I need to upgrade on him, and I am still relearning the most effective build. I havent really PVPed with him since lvl 60ish. Most of you have seen me out on my BA a LOT more than my captain. I dont necessarily think my "play style" is bad, and yes I still typically own on 1v1s. Even without the new jewelry, banner, and all the aud set yet.

As far as the landscape exploiting, no...I dont think its debatable... Going to a specific area where you can not be attacked by either ranged or melee to avoid dying is... stupid. I am not talking about standing on the pillars at the bridge either... I actually dont mind it when people do that, because my brother and I both R7 BA will just kill them anyways, or they will run off when the freeps move on and then we kill them all the same. Exploiting is just as bad as farming in my book.

I am so not the type of captain to sit in the back and heal..I do heal occasionally when I see someone being focus fired on, or throw a bubble, but traited red my heals suck... I run with 5 reds 1blue 1yellow...still looking for the best combination, but I typically am running out front. Because I cant out sprint any of the creep slows I don't even bother trying to run away, but fight until I eventually die (especially with LS) LS is not a defensive skill.

So many things to sayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yy

I could write a book

But I wont, hereby making my post, irrelevant and pointless!

Hahaha, well, I have a lot more fun on my BA than my captain...at least for the time being, and at least for moors content. Ehh, whatever, I guess I will just pew pew with my creep and hack n' slash with my cappy. Nothing more fun than branding and being in LS with a good amount of power to spare.

Zitat von Ryuc

So many things to sayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yy

I could write a book

But I wont, hereby making my post, irrelevant and pointless!

Gg.

./Moarwords

Zitat von Ellery01

I solo for two main reasons: One, I get a lot more renown since the only real use a group has to me is increasing my survivability. Two, I earnestly feel like it'd be unfair to creeps if I were to run around duo'd with a cappy all the time, or in a 3-6 man group at all. It's fairly unusual (at least in my limited experience) that creep #s are just so overwhelming that there is no choice but to group. And if freeps and creeps are evenly matched, the freep group is going to dominate assuming player skill and class diversity is equal. So I prefer it when creeps have numbers, and I choose not to group unless the numbers are so overwhelming that there's no chance to get a kill otherwise.

But, I'm probably going to be trying to convince Vindikator to duo with me now that he's got his new cappy at 75 :P Just for old time's sake!

Funny you should say that, seeing as today all I saw you do was run around in the 'solo' zerg. Also, good of you to start PvPing on your RK again now that they're even more easymode than late-SoM.

Zitat von MaroonDragoon

Funny you should say that, seeing as today all I saw you do was run around in the 'solo' zerg. Also, good of you to start PvPing on your RK again now that they're even more easymode than late-SoM.

I dunno whatchoo talking about, I loved Ygaer's solo pushes today!

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You know, the one where he had 4 other RK's, 2 mini's and others backing him up.

And now it turns into a QQ thread.....

Zitat von TylerM95

And now it turns into a QQ thread.....

It wasn't already?

Zitat von MaroonDragoon

Funny you should say that, seeing as today all I saw you do was run around in the 'solo' zerg. Also, good of you to start PvPing on your RK again now that they're even more easymode than late-SoM.

Haha, what am I supposed to do? Segregate myself from the other freeps in the moors so the 5 warg group can have their way with me? When creeps spend almost the entire day grouped up with a bunch of wargs on the prowl, there's really no choice for me is there? It's not like I can go ride off somewhere else and find a magical utopia of soloers waiting for me haha. I push plenty and I don't hug my starz. What else can you ask of an ez-mode RK? I get renown and I give infamy, and I generally have fun in the process. Sorry if it's not living up to your standards of PVP purity!

And windy hasnt changed at all wooooo

Zitat von Ellery01

Haha, what am I supposed to do? Segregate myself from the other freeps in the moors so the 5 warg group can have their way with me? When creeps spend almost the entire day grouped up with a bunch of wargs on the prowl, there's really no choice for me is there? It's not like I can go ride off somewhere else and find a magical utopia of soloers waiting for me haha. I push plenty and I don't hug my starz. What else can you ask of an ez-mode RK? I get renown and I give infamy, and I generally have fun in the process. Sorry if it's not living up to your standards of PVP purity!

It's more that your idea of soloing isn't really soloing at all. But whatever, you're right. Compared to most people you're a saint.