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    WTAB....

    hey not sure how it started. think it was dan v corn. but the 1v1's at wtab was fun
    all except for the one tool that didnt respect it. but other than that lots o fun. loved
    dan v zara.. went for about 10m with no winner. second fight lasted as long with dan
    winning.. supercrash won a few. i lost a few and fun was had by all.. thanks

    stanach rk9 hunter

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    Is the 1v1 thing normal on Vilya? I have not logged into my Vilya characters in about 3 years. Went to see what pvmp was like and was told that it was 1v1 night. So I stroll up to wtab to check it out on my r4 reaver, and I am annihilated. It was a bit shocked to think that this 1v1 thing is like that, not very respectful.

    I'm not sure this 1v1 thing is really a 1v1 thing. Maybe it would be respected where 1v1 was within 3ranks (blue+), and each side let the 2 individuals go standing at opposite parts of the field. Rather than what I saw, where several freeps and creeps were bunched up running around in circles. Makes it kinda hard to see who to fight, and who is fighting who since there is alot going on at once.

    It made me also think that the freeps/creeps on Vilya don't respect pvmp like other servers do, and that there was some subtle manipulation to get easy renown/infamy by one or two kins. That is speculation and in no way a verdict against the pvmp on Vilya.

    I will have to check it out another time. I guess I need to just look at the forums pre-login.

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    Re: WTAB....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ollorin View Post
    Is the 1v1 thing normal on Vilya? I have not logged into my Vilya characters in about 3 years. Went to see what pvmp was like and was told that it was 1v1 night. So I stroll up to wtab to check it out on my r4 reaver, and I am annihilated. It was a bit shocked to think that this 1v1 thing is like that, not very respectful.

    I'm not sure this 1v1 thing is really a 1v1 thing. Maybe it would be respected where 1v1 was within 3ranks (blue+), and each side let the 2 individuals go standing at opposite parts of the field. Rather than what I saw, where several freeps and creeps were bunched up running around in circles. Makes it kinda hard to see who to fight, and who is fighting who since there is alot going on at once.

    It made me also think that the freeps/creeps on Vilya don't respect pvmp like other servers do, and that there was some subtle manipulation to get easy renown/infamy by one or two kins. That is speculation and in no way a verdict against the pvmp on Vilya.

    I will have to check it out another time. I guess I need to just look at the forums pre-login.
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    Re: WTAB....

    well... all was ok 1v1s and stuff... then xzealot started to kill random ppl and ailious helped, a few creeps was not helping the other to kill aillious and xzealot, then i started to kill everything there is no respect here. why should i have?
    the last 2 things like that ended in the same thing. always will happens.. and is almost the same thing in brandy.

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    Re: WTAB....

    Sounds like uncle Wertes just needs a good ol' internet hug... haha /hug

    Back to my question. Is the 1v1 thing normal? Like 1 night a week or something? kinda looks like it from a brief overview of the other treads.

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    Re: WTAB....

    Ah perfect landrau/Lunmaz, thanks for replying ...

    I will probably log in again at some point. Its too bad I didn't continue to rank my creeps on Vilya since the server I am currently playing on has a pretty low population in the moors during my normal play time at the moment. Schedule changes suck...

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    Re: WTAB....

    Hey Guys! Zara here. I had a blast 1v1 with you guys. I'm actually suprised I did pretty well. I spend 99% of my time healing in pvp and pve as well. So dps and 1v1 is farely new to me. Thanks for the great practice. Anyways it is a shame some people dont have respect but it happens and theres nothing we can do about it except move on and have a good time fighting eachother. Cya guys in the moors. <3

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    Re: WTAB....

    1v1s are usually reserved for Candy Mountain. Everywhere else is fair game. It would be very unfortunate and saddening if 1v1 circles started popping up everywhere on Vilya..

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    Re: WTAB....

    Quote Originally Posted by PanickingPanda View Post
    1v1s are usually reserved for Candy Mountain. Everywhere else is fair game. It would be very unfortunate and saddening if 1v1 circles started popping up everywhere on Vilya..
    This... Vilya is not E (or how E used to be)... If you do get a 1v1 in open field, it's usually spontaneous, however, don't be surprised if a raid maps in on you... even CM gets zerged... so chose your opponents, location, and timing of 1v1 events wisely.
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    Re: WTAB....

    Any 1v1s that do not occur on CM are fair game to be rolled/messed with.

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    Re: WTAB....

    If you don't want your 1v1s to be rolled anywhere (Even CM on this server) you'd better have a lot of creeps/freeps there, or you make a note of who zerged them and you retaliate.
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    Re: WTAB....

    Plenty of good fights, though it did get a bit stupid at the end.

    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfBlackarrows View Post
    Any 1v1s that do not occur on CM are fair game to be rolled/messed with.
    I've never been ganked in a 1v1 off CM, but have been numerous time on, whats up with that, eh?

    Edit: I take that back, DP tried to gank me on his reaver yesterday, but got annihilated by 3-4 freeps as soon as I flopped

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    Re: WTAB....

    You know what I'll acknowledge that anywhere on the map, even CM, is fair game for fights, any which way you can get em, 1v1, groups, raids, so on and so on. I get it. It's a PvP zone and if I don't like getting attacked out of nowhere, I should head back to Freepside. And any amount of whining or moaning that I might have wanted to do after Xealot and Allious started doing their thing, is mostly going to fall on deaf and generally unsympathic ears. "Welcome to the Moors. Don't let the door hit yer @$$ on the logout."


    To me, the most annoying part of how the fights ended last night wasn't that it came out of nowhere and with no warning, but that it was done by two of the servers strongest players who really don't need to pull #### like that to get their points. Allious owned me in all three of our 1v1s and I never came close to getting him past 1/2 health. Again, I get it, I can't come close to beating him 1v1 and he's the better player than I am. So, why the need to DPS me when I'm on Xealot, who's doing just fine on his own with his own bubbles and heals, against three or four creeps! It's just really douchy, ya know? For both of them.


    Like so many of us on either side, I would imagine that as we rank up and the infamy incline gets so damn steep, it gets a little boring and tedious to just chase the infamy night after night in the same raid v raid fashion. 1v1s offer any player the chance to really test themselves against other classes and ranks and see what kind of player they are against a single opponent. It's not for everyone of course (although it is a PvP zone ) and some folks really hate these when they come across them anywhere on the map and do their best to muck up the works. And they can certainly do that. It's open world, virtually no rules, there's really no "safe" zone on the map, and I'm not paying your subscription fee, am I?


    Anyway, enough of the rant. Thanks to the Freeps who gave us the fights we had, who gave as good as they took, and who gave it their all in a great spirit of player of player competition. Thanks to Smugo, Veldehar, Nilmade, and big thanks to Zara who came back for a 2nd fight after our first fight was interrupted by a rude Orc NPC. Those were some long fights and they could have gone either way at any point. And a special finger of salute to Allious and Xealot for their antics that ended the night for all. Not that my opinion matters one whit to you, but was it really necessary to prove your true colors like that? Stay classy guys...whatever.

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    Re: WTAB....

    I like where this is going

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    Re: WTAB....

    It is funny how respect on this server works, out of convenience. I was even doing CC for aggro'd NPCs on my hunter before all of this happened.

    I killed a reaver that wasn't participating in the 1v1/recently showed up on my hunter and i get rolled by 5 creeps. Guess what, that kinda ticked me off.... You would be too. So I brought out the big guns and proceeded to claim my revenge.

    To the wargs sitting at the bottom of the bridge that I didn't try to kill, don't be flattered you most likely would have sprint/disappeared. To the warg that did attack me and did do both and then the 3rd time w/o CDs available, lul.

    I want to give a special thanks to everyone that took the time to come and comment on this subject and personally tell the new guy, 1v1 circles in high traffic areas are not normal behavior and will not be honored in any location other than CM by me at any point in time on Vilya ever save for the occasional spontaneous 1v1 that occurs when two players run into each other. Also want to thank Zarralyn for her first official forum post ever!

    Hope you all had fun because I did!
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    Re: WTAB....

    1v1s are cool, but never should one be angry when they get zerged doing so. It's just pointless. If you want a fight club pick people you trust and make it an undisclosed location. Don't make the entire server bow to your almighty rule of respecting the 1v1 circle!

    'course i usually don't start nuffin if people are 1v1'ing, and usually join in. To do otherwise would be mean!

    I like spontaneity, 1v1's open field are waaaaay funner than preplanned fights.
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    Re: WTAB....

    Quote Originally Posted by Driverman23 View Post
    It is funny how respect on this server works, out of convenience.
    Usually... added with the Dunning-Kruger effect... I rolled face in that 1v1, was very good! OMG you beat ###? OP EZMODER! GOD MODING MINSTREL!

    Truthfully though... minis are OP.
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    Re: WTAB....

    Quote Originally Posted by jodala View Post
    Yes u should be shocked. Its Vilya 2012. we're f'd-up. Whatever happens, Happens. Deal with it and move on. Adapt and improvise or transfer.

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    Re: WTAB....

    Quote Originally Posted by Smugo View Post
    I've never been ganked in a 1v1 off CM, but have been numerous time on, whats up with that, eh?
    Really? I'm sure that isn't exactly true.

    I can reword what I meant. I will respect 1v1s on CM, nowhere else. However an exception does occur when I get word that the same people are 1v1ing over and over on CM.. then I lead my freight train up there and wreck the party

    Although I will say that 1v1ing has not been as common on Vilya as it used to.. which in my opinion is a good thing. Less of the bickering of what is fight clubbing and what is not.

    Funny one key person resurfaces and so does the strife

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    Re: WTAB....

    I'm guessing KingofBlackarrows is Rash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfBlackarrows View Post
    Really? I'm sure that isn't exactly true.

    I can reword what I meant. I will respect 1v1s on CM, nowhere else. However an exception does occur when I get word that the same people are 1v1ing over and over on CM.. then I lead my freight train up there and wreck the party

    Although I will say that 1v1ing has not been as common on Vilya as it used to.. which in my opinion is a good thing. Less of the bickering of what is fight clubbing and what is not.

    Funny one key person resurfaces and so does the strife
    It is exactly true. I have never been jumped in a proper 1v1 except by DP as I said.

    I have seen less respect from you than anyone on CM, you've felt it necessary to bring half a raid to jump me up there twice now, and in neither case had I had more than two fights...so ya, BS.

    I'll take 1v1s over drastically outnumbered creeps or freeps any day. When the 1v1s were happening there were 4-5 ranked creeps and 3-4 low ranks. Freeps on the other hand had 10+ with significant experience. Had we not been having fun with some 1v1s the creeps would have been sitting in a rez or a keep feeling miserable, and the freeps would have been bored.

    If there are even numbers however, 1v1s are not what should be happening. Why waste a time for good even fights when those times are so rare?

    Truthfully, the only bickering that resulted from the 1v1s was on the topic of ganking once the creeps were rolled. I had numerous creeps flip to talk afterwards, and not one had a negative thing to say of the 1v1s themselves.

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    Re: WTAB....

    I have always enjoyed 1v1s and had fun that night. I respect most random 1v1s, unless I really want the KB. I started killing people that night because X got zerged. Whatever, it happens, but then you guys are going to die. I could care less about points. Who cares about rank anyways, besides the symbol for looks?

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    Re: WTAB....

    Quote Originally Posted by Turin_Turambar_The_F View Post
    Usually... added with the Dunning-Kruger effect... I rolled face in that 1v1, was very good! OMG you beat ###? OP EZMODER! GOD MODING MINSTREL!

    Truthfully though... minis are OP.
    nonsense, minnies are so underpowered these days.....

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    Re: WTAB....

    Quote Originally Posted by Smugo View Post
    It is exactly true. I have never been jumped in a proper 1v1 except by DP as I said.

    I have seen less respect from you than anyone on CM, you've felt it necessary to bring half a raid to jump me up there twice now, and in neither case had I had more than two fights...so ya, BS.

    I'll take 1v1s over drastically outnumbered creeps or freeps any day. When the 1v1s were happening there were 4-5 ranked creeps and 3-4 low ranks. Freeps on the other hand had 10+ with significant experience. Had we not been having fun with some 1v1s the creeps would have been sitting in a rez or a keep feeling miserable, and the freeps would have been bored.

    If there are even numbers however, 1v1s are not what should be happening. Why waste a time for good even fights when those times are so rare?

    Truthfully, the only bickering that resulted from the 1v1s was on the topic of ganking once the creeps were rolled. I had numerous creeps flip to talk afterwards, and not one had a negative thing to say of the 1v1s themselves.
    I do cannot recount any times you were zerged on CM, though my memory often fails me. Maybe some screenshots to jog it?

    10 freeps with significant experience all on at the same time? Interesting.. Something like that hasn't happened for a while. Don't act like freeps absolutely hate rezcamps.. They are done all the time.

    You want to 1v1 in the middle of the map.. Go ahead. But that isn't going to stop a raid from rolling over you and they have every right to.

    The bickering is not caused by the 1v1s, they are caused by the zerging afterward as you said. However it is a given that zerging will always happen as will people not respecting the 1v1s, therefore it is easily avoided by not have them at all.

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