Thread: Cappies as main heal for NCF T2 last boss Thadur

Hey guy, is it possible for cappies to main heal ncf T2 last boss- Thadur? I have a level 65 cappy but have problems healing last boss - with insufficient heals. Do you have any advice? Thanks!

Originally Posted by weiminc38

Hey guy, is it possible for cappies to main heal ncf T2 last boss- Thadur? I have a level 65 cappy but have problems healing last boss - with insufficient heals. Do you have any advice? Thanks!

Yes, it's pretty easy. You can heal on run, and you will be running around a lot because of the boss mechanics.
Try to keep your healing mark and maxed SoW on your tank. BtW, who's tanking - Guard, Wrd, Champ, Burg ? Depending on your dps you may have to switch your brother and mark skills during the fight.

Originally Posted by StarofLs

Yes, it's pretty easy. You can heal on run, and you will be running around a lot because of the boss mechanics.
Try to keep your healing mark and maxed SoW on your tank. BtW, who's tanking - Guard, Wrd, Champ, Burg ? Depending on your dps you may have to switch your brother and mark skills during the fight.

Thanks! Warden is tanking.


I was using revealing mark and words of courage for heals but seem not enough. I was also using SOW on tank.

In between the WoC spamming you should be dropping VS and your BS>DB chain for crits to open defeat responses for Rallying Cry

Originally Posted by Uron

In between the WoC spamming you should be dropping VS and your BS>DB chain for crits to open defeat responses for Rallying Cry

Thanks! How much critical rating should a cappy have in order to open the crit chain for defeat responses?

I healed this fight with my Captain on lvl 65 as well. Once I went in there with a Warden as a tank and once with a (red) Champion, both from the same player. The Warden was quite difficult to heal while the Champ was ridiculously easy despite him being in Fervour with a -30% incoming healing penalty. Don't ask me why.
Back then a Captain could swap Shield-Brother without losing the buffs which is no longer possible. So I could hold Strength of Will (+20% incoming healing) and Inspire on the Warden and To Arms on the Hunter. Being a main healer meant a challenge for the Captain whereas supporting was too boring for me therefore my Cappy is still lvl 66.

Anyway try the following:
Trait for Hands of Healing if you haven't done so already. Shield of the Dunedain may help if needed.
Keep Revealing Mark on Thadur and Shield-Brother on your tank and use a Banner of Hope.
Always keep Strength of Will with its legacy up which increases the tank's incoming healing by 20%.
Hit Inspire and To Arms (with 30 sec duration) every time they are off cooldown.
Spam Words of Courage on the tank and use traited Muster Courage to heal yourself.
Use Valiant Strike if you think you need more healing but be sure that all party members are near you. Hunters far away may not gain the hot.
Use Devastating Blow or Pressing Attack for a chance to get a defeat response and Blade of Elendil to remove the corruption if present.

In short: Use all your skills to improve the tank's sturdiness and heal with every skill available but beware not to run out of power (which you can solve by using Song-Brother).

Originally Posted by StarofLs

Yes, it's pretty easy. You can heal on run, and you will be running around a lot because of the boss mechanics.
Try to keep your healing mark and maxed SoW on your tank. BtW, who's tanking - Guard, Wrd, Champ, Burg ? Depending on your dps you may have to switch your brother and mark skills during the fight.

"Easy" is a relative term. I did this at 65 to. It is not so forgiving with a Captain healing if the tank doesn't get the mechanics right or is very squishy. i.e. it may be a cakewalk with a skilled/geared guardian, but not easy with a less skilled/equipped warden...

Originally Posted by weiminc38

Thanks! How much critical rating should a cappy have in order to open the crit chain for defeat responses?

Well, at 65 I couldn't tell you, but most captains run with a critical chance of at least 12-15%. Having a +Critical for Devastating Blow legacy is a must for any captain, so that would increase your critical rating immensely for the crit chain.

In a pinch, you could always use Time of Need for a defeat response.

My personal suggestion when healing is to enable Skill Target Forwarding in the combat options. This will enable you to keep the tank targeted, but allow you to attack the boss through him. So you could easily switch from WoC spamming to your normal BS rotation.

From what I understood the problem is that you're trying to heal with only WoC. Something else to note is that revealing mark hardly helps a warden cause he doesn't really do any damage (champ tanking will benefit the most out of revealing mark).

The heals coming from all sources are quite important and this includes WoC, Inspire, Valiant strike, Rally cry. You need to be using every tool you have.
Trait 5 blue and HoH capstone, also go for Expert attacks to increase the chance of critting with Dev. blow which should at least once proc during the fight. You will also probably need to use ToN during the fight when you've fallen behind in heals for the free rally cry and last thing don't forget to watch your own morale during all of this. Don't be afraid to use all cds if you see you're losing touch with the fight.

Originally Posted by Despotis

From what I understood the problem is that you're trying to heal with only WoC. Something else to note is that revealing mark hardly helps a warden cause he doesn't really do any damage (champ tanking will benefit the most out of revealing mark).

The heals coming from all sources are quite important and this includes WoC, Inspire, Valiant strike, Rally cry. You need to be using every tool you have.
Trait 5 blue and HoH capstone, also go for Expert attacks to increase the chance of critting with Dev. blow which should at least once proc during the fight. You will also probably need to use ToN during the fight when you've fallen behind in heals for the free rally cry and last thing don't forget to watch your own morale during all of this. Don't be afraid to use all cds if you see you're losing touch with the fight.

yes thanks! I can't seem to get the critical response to go off to initiate defeat response for RCs.