Thread: Words of Courage

I've seen some cappies use Words of Courage on themselves, does anyone know how do I do it? Thanks!

Are you sure they're not using Muster Courage? Muster Courage can be traited to give a self-heal.

Also, if there are two Captains in the group, the other Captain might have healed the first one with WoC and this is what you saw (or even an outside Captain might have thrown it.)

Just some random ideas, but WoC cannot be used on oneself unless some kind of bug or exploit has been discovered.

Originally Posted by Galaxiana

Are you sure they're not using Muster Courage? Muster Courage can be traited to give a self-heal.

Also, if there are two Captains in the group, the other Captain might have healed the first one with WoC and this is what you saw (or even an outside Captain might have thrown it.)

Just some random ideas, but WoC cannot be used on oneself unless some kind of bug or exploit has been discovered.

Thanks! He must be traited to self heal with MC!

Agreed, I wish we could though. I hate relying on a slow...very slow self healing HoT skills. RC is unreliable unless you kill something or crit. I would like a heal that you can self heal with for a decent spot heal. Perhaps 500-1000 with a 10s cooldown.

Thoughts?

Yeah, the icon for the heal on MC is the same yellow plus as with WoC.

Originally Posted by aadaboy19

Agreed, I wish we could though. I hate relying on a slow...very slow self healing HoT skills. RC is unreliable unless you kill something or crit. I would like a heal that you can self heal with for a decent spot heal. Perhaps 500-1000 with a 10s cooldown.

Thoughts?

Actually I think VS when traited HoH is excellent. When traited healing I never have a problem staying up (+20% revealing mark helps). Dps is another story. VS is pretty sad when not traited and MC is decent but not enough. Another HoT would be nice, but I would honestly prefer a large ungated selfheal since we have none.

Originally Posted by Fendrone

Actually I think VS when traited HoH is excellent. When traited healing I never have a problem staying up (+20% revealing mark helps). Dps is another story. VS is pretty sad when not traited and MC is decent but not enough. Another HoT would be nice, but I would honestly prefer a large ungated selfheal since we have none.

I personally, would rather have a skill with 5-15min cd which gave back 25% morale and 25% power.

Originally Posted by Witch0King

I personally, would rather have a skill with 5-15min cd which gave back 25% morale and 25% power.

Would be nice, but I never have problems with power if I have song or blade brother up.

Originally Posted by Fendrone

Would be nice, but I never have problems with power if I have song or blade brother up.

naaw, comon, once in a while even your pretty little cappy falls apart due to lack of power ?

Originally Posted by Witch0King

naaw, comon, once in a while even your pretty little cappy falls apart due to lack of power ?

Pfft, she's got tons of power, especially with power banner. But the morale part of your suggestion is nice. Manheal doesn't cut it every hour.

Originally Posted by Fendrone

Pfft, she's got tons of power, especially with power banner. But the morale part of your suggestion is nice. Manheal doesn't cut it every hour.

Still, the power heal is a nice touch as im never using the power banner anyways :P

Originally Posted by Witch0King

Still, the power heal is a nice touch as im never using the power banner anyways :P

Hehe, alright, yes Tingur the power would be nice.

Originally Posted by aadaboy19

Agreed, I wish we could though. I hate relying on a slow...very slow self healing HoT skills. RC is unreliable unless you kill something or crit. I would like a heal that you can self heal with for a decent spot heal. Perhaps 500-1000 with a 10s cooldown.

Thoughts?

Captains used to be able to use Words of Courage on themselves. It was changed because we were soloing everything, and it made us too powerful.

Muster Courage isnt' much, but it does help. I think we are about right with our self-healing abilities. We are pretty powerful right now at keeping ourselves alive if geared right. I can solo the trees and spiders for example in Limelight gorge without much trouble - and that puts us on par with other classes in most respects.

So I think things are fine. Our self-healing is limited, but I think that's appropriate.

Originally Posted by Jeremi

Captains used to be able to use Words of Courage on themselves. It was changed because we were soloing everything, and it made us too powerful.

Muster Courage isnt' much, but it does help. I think we are about right with our self-healing abilities. We are pretty powerful right now at keeping ourselves alive if geared right. I can solo the trees and spiders for example in Limelight gorge without much trouble - and that puts us on par with other classes in most respects.

So I think things are fine. Our self-healing is limited, but I think that's appropriate.

Perhaps a compromise then, what if WoC had a significantly longer cooldown when used on yourself, lets say 15-30 seconds.
You wouldn't be able to use it below a certain morale threshold by the morale cost and you would have to use it wisely so that you don't sacrifice your ability to heal others

Originally Posted by jchudz

Perhaps a compromise then, what if WoC had a significantly longer cooldown when used on yourself, lets say 15-30 seconds.
You wouldn't be able to use it below a certain morale threshold by the morale cost and you would have to use it wisely so that you don't sacrifice your ability to heal others

That might be ok, but the point I was trying to make in my earlier post is I believe our self-healing is already about where it should be.

I can solo the trees and spiders in Limelight Gorge for the gold coin quests for example, something I've seen some other classes struggle with. So I'd say our survivial is already comparative with most other classes out there, so I don't really feel it's a real problem of ours that needs attention. That's mostly what I was trying to say.

That being said though, I am a Hands of Healing Captain with the benefit of having Valiant Strike. This may be more of an issue for Lead the Charge Captains. I'm not sure - so take my comments in that context.