Now before you all flame me, I do realize there is a fair amount of creeps who will 1v1.. but it seems the amount of gankers/haters is growing.
The purpose of this thread is for those who oppose to civilly explain why, and hopefully I can understand the reasoning and possibly change your mind.
Meneldor used to be have a thriving 1v1 community! ... now it seems like you're labeled a cheater of the worst degree if you engage in them... very depressing for guys like me who used to be big time 1v1ers.
The last time I played on this server 1v1 was labelled Taboo.
By both Ranked Freeps and Creeps, mostly freeps because it was "Farming"
Yeah and for a while it was just a small minority that opposed, the rest being for, or passive about it... now it seems the ratio has swapped.. :'(
Perhaps the new generation just hasn't tried them as much, or had a bad first experiance. If this is the case, then somebody needs to bust out Green Eggs and Ham, asap.
Yeah and for a while it was just a small minority that opposed, the rest being for, or passive about it... now it seems the ratio has swapped.. :'(
Perhaps the new generation just hasn't tried them as much, or had a bad first experiance. If this is the case, then somebody needs to bust out Green Eggs and Ham, asap.
Id say the majority of creeps enjoy 1v1s but you have the few who dont Galthone/Jawws/Websturz and a few others
“There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.”
I don't have to be on 24/7 to know this. I know what classes exist in the game. The fundamental differences between Creeps and Freeps cheapen 1v1s. There is no 'accomplishment' in winning or losing 90% of all 1v1 scenarios. Usually when you do win it is because your class was OP against the one you fought vs, or the person you played against was bad. That's the truth, that's Lotro. The only thing of significance one can derive from 1v1s is if someone knows how to play (not that this would necessarily grant than any margin of success), outside of that it's futile exercise in almost every way.
Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL
Ahhhh the "I win button" excuse yeah id love to get me one of those could you buy it for me please
I don't have to be on 24/7 to know this. I know what classes exist in the game. The fundamental differences between Creeps and Freeps cheapen 1v1s. There is no 'accomplishment' in winning or losing 90% of all 1v1 scenarios. Usually when you do win it is because your class was OP against the one you fought vs, or the person you played against was bad. That's the truth, that's Lotro. The only thing of significance one can derive from 1v1s is if someone knows how to play (not that this would necessarily grant than any margin of success), outside of that it's futile exercise in almost every way.
Sticky Tar.
Sprint vs Sticky who wins? Sprint Once again you're clueless regarding LM
Lets look again Sticky vs Ba/WL/Defiler Yeah omg it sooooo affects them because they need to stand in it
What 2 classes do you play oh thats right ezmode warg and OP Minny yeah you know all
“There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.”
Sprint vs Sticky who wins? Sprint Once again you're clueless regarding LM
Lets look again Sticky vs Ba/WL/Defiler Yeah omg it sooooo affects them because they need to stand in it
What 2 classes do you play oh thats right ezmode warg and OP Minny yeah you know all
And if the Warg doesn't have Sprint up? It's a 10 min CD you know. And if the Creep is a Reaver? In those 2 scenarios, an LM with Tar will utterly destroy the Creep in question. I didn't say it applied in every scenario, only that it's an I win button - not necessarily all the time. Of course you'd have to have an agenda other than trolling or qq or whatever you want to call what it is you do to realize that. Obviously Tar does nothing vs BAs...SO I OBVIOUSLY MEANT IT IS GODMODE IN EVERY SCENARIO BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU CAN REFUTE IT.
Just because you can't win on a class doesn't mean it is broken.
And I don't really play anything atm. Bored with Lotro. Not that Warg is easymode. A Warg will lose to the majority of Freep classes, the only thing they really have a shot against are LMs and Hunts and MAYBE Captains. So easymode, they can usually beat a third or less of Freep classes! If a Freep loses to a Warg that isn't on those classes they are very likely bad. And there are a lot of Freeps in our Moors who manage that. And naturally this contributes to the plethora of misinformation about PvP floating around here- the chief contributor for which, of course, is Elmo.
Simple answer to the question: Cuz its harder to win 1v1's as a creep than as a freep. And 95% of the people playing this game don't want a challenge, they just want a faceroll, ezmode victory.
Example: I show up to 1v1's and almost no one will fight me. Random noob hunter rolls in and then all the sudden every warg that appeared afk when I was trying to get them to fight immediately dashes over to them and starts jumpin around.
Kudos to the 5% that don't apply to my response, though.
Simple answer to the question: Cuz its harder to win 1v1's as a creep than as a freep. And 95% of the people playing this game don't want a challenge, they just want a faceroll, ezmode victory.
This, I have brought my r2 spider to GTA once and lots of people started jumping in front of me, and it does happen both sides, as I have logged my lvl 43 cappie at GTA and I had creeps jumping over me for a 1v1. (Yes, hard to believe, but this is true.)
Freep: Esegar
Creep: Alberigo, Tocu, Parasect, Flamenguista, Seroxat and Tylerdurdenn
Simple answer to the question: Cuz its harder to win 1v1's as a creep than as a freep. And 95% of the people playing this game don't want a challenge, they just want a faceroll, ezmode victory.
Example: I show up to 1v1's and almost no one will fight me. Random noob hunter rolls in and then all the sudden every warg that appeared afk when I was trying to get them to fight immediately dashes over to them and starts jumpin around.
Kudos to the 5% that don't apply to my response, though.
I poked you with arrows yesterday! Then dingo showed up... and then that burg... and then I died .
Akurnakh: R6 Warg
The incredible Bhongos!: R4 Reaver
Remember, you're unique... just like everyone else.
And if the Warg doesn't have Sprint up? It's a 10 min CD you know. And if the Creep is a Reaver? In those 2 scenarios, an LM with Tar will utterly destroy the Creep in question. I didn't say it applied in every scenario, only that it's an I win button - not necessarily all the time. Of course you'd have to have an agenda other than trolling or qq or whatever you want to call what it is you do to realize that. Obviously Tar does nothing vs BAs...SO I OBVIOUSLY MEANT IT IS GODMODE IN EVERY SCENARIO BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU CAN REFUTE IT.
Just because you can't win on a class doesn't mean it is broken.
And I don't really play anything atm. Bored with Lotro. Not that Warg is easymode. A Warg will lose to the majority of Freep classes, the only thing they really have a shot against are LMs and Hunts and MAYBE Captains. So easymode, they can usually beat a third or less of Freep classes! If a Freep loses to a Warg that isn't on those classes they are very likely bad. And there are a lot of Freeps in our Moors who manage that. And naturally this contributes to the plethora of misinformation about PvP floating around here- the chief contributor for which, of course, is Elmo.
1. Havent found a warg yet who doesnt have sprint up in a 1v1
2. Reavers i dont doubt that
3. Warg is ezmode and just because YOU cant fight on one properly dont mean they're broken
4. Never have i EVER said my class is broken i stated i dont have a i win button which mean i win everytime or close to it so please learn the meaning of it
Sorry you dont know much about Lms but you're learning someday you might actually get it right
“There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.”
Simple answer to the question: Cuz its harder to win 1v1's as a creep than as a freep. And 95% of the people playing this game don't want a challenge, they just want a faceroll, ezmode victory.
Example: I show up to 1v1's and almost no one will fight me. Random noob hunter rolls in and then all the sudden every warg that appeared afk when I was trying to get them to fight immediately dashes over to them and starts jumpin around.
Kudos to the 5% that don't apply to my response, though.
I'll fight you with my creep or freep anytime, #### i'll dust off the spider just to entertain you but yeah i do agree with most of what you said.
“There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.”
1. Havent found a warg yet who doesnt have sprint up in a 1v1
2. Reavers i dont doubt that
3. Warg is ezmode and just because YOU cant fight on one properly dont mean they're broken
4. Never have i EVER said my class is broken i stated i dont have a i win button which mean i win everytime or close to it so please learn the meaning of it
Sorry you dont know much about Lms but you're learning someday you might actually get it right
I don't 1v1 anymore and never did like to. Never could keep track of the ever-changing list of rules and guidelines designed to make either side win or feel better about losing. Besides, the best pvp are with small groups of friends that know how to play.
1. Havent found a warg yet who doesnt have sprint up in a 1v1
2. Reavers i dont doubt that
3. Warg is ezmode and just because YOU cant fight on one properly dont mean they're broken
4. Never have i EVER said my class is broken i stated i dont have a i win button which mean i win everytime or close to it so please learn the meaning of it
Sorry you dont know much about Lms but you're learning someday you might actually get it right
Cough cough.. Uhm What about me?? I only pop sprint when the other person does, and you know that. Don't make all of us wargs the same there Mr. Elmo.
Simple answer to the question: Cuz its harder to win 1v1's as a creep than as a freep. And 95% of the people playing this game don't want a challenge, they just want a faceroll, ezmode victory.
Example: I show up to 1v1's and almost no one will fight me. Random noob hunter rolls in and then all the sudden every warg that appeared afk when I was trying to get them to fight immediately dashes over to them and starts jumpin around.
Kudos to the 5% that don't apply to my response, though.
Awww. This makes Alkemist sad. Miss our fights....
Now before you all flame me, I do realize there is a fair amount of creeps who will 1v1.. but it seems the amount of gankers/haters is growing.
The purpose of this thread is for those who oppose to civilly explain why, and hopefully I can understand the reasoning and possibly change your mind.
Meneldor used to be have a thriving 1v1 community! ... now it seems like you're labeled a cheater of the worst degree if you engage in them... very depressing for guys like me who used to be big time 1v1ers.
Post away!
You killed my BA twice at slugs.
First time you got jump while I had slug aggro and low power, some life gone... slug actually stole KB from you.
Retreated, ran back out to fight you without some health missing and some range if I track you.... but mez pot was on CD from first attempt.. and some warg jumped in, and disappeared or died, not sure, when I got back you were at 80% health.. got you down to 400 hp, and I died, you walked away. Cureable fire dot.. fails again.
So I log on my warg thinking you want a "more fair" 1v1.. you are gone.
I go to TA where the fighting is and find you.
Attack 3 times and 2 times there are hunters pairing up tracking me.. (think vapt and gilrod?) so I died 3 times, you never.
Even the time it was 2 creeps vs you and I seen it and after first creep died, jumped in.. still died and you didn't..
Frustrated, checked combat logs. This is by memory but it is pretty close since I was surprised at the numbers:
Your AUTO ATTACK crit hit 650.
My Claws hit immediately after that crit for only 520..
Max claw was 920, didn't get a dev the whole fight.
Your max was 2k from flashing blade..
I didn't use CA at the time, nor threw in numbers in excel, but EVERY attack I had was only equal or less than yours (outside of auto attacks sometimes were less than claw.. maul was worthless.. 30 or less).
My audacity on warg is 3.
Not sure what yours is.
Now some of you like elmo will say this is QQ...
Why I don't desire to 1v1:
I can try to position and strafe circle and joust, positioning used to make the difference in 1v1..
ie running through the last second before a HS, getting out of range of champ and jousting claws "through" them to get behind damage.
Now the game mechanics have changed, there is more slack in this.. don't know if it was documented, but it seems it came around the same time the weapon delay change happened.
So if you can't mechanics wise gain an advantage by moving, then you rely totally on developer set rules.
I can't change the amount a skill does (except for using frenzy after a crit to hopefully make it crit)..
I can't change if I hit or miss.. I can't press buttons harder.. or use the mouse to focus the attack.. it is "If in range, if facing target, execute vs bpe and modified miss chance on level diff"
So could I win a 1v1 vs a burg like you? Maybe.. if you mess up totally or the rng favors me considerably. Neither of which is really 1v1 pvp in my eyes.
But any time you want a "fair" pvp by us having equal footing.. play me in csgo. A game that actual planning, movement, and aim make a difference!
Member Online status:
Reputation:
Grand Member Online status:
Originally Posted by Murtanion
Grand Member Online status:
Grand Member Online status:
Senior Member Online status:
Grand Member Online status:
Senior Member Online status:
“There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.”
Grand Member Online status:
Poster of Note Online status:
Senior Member Online status:
Senior Member Online status:
Senior Member Online status:
my favorite animal is a snow leopard 
Poster of Note Online status:
“There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.”
Senior Member Online status:
Senior Member Online status:
Grand Member Online status:
Reply With Quote
Posting Permissions
