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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by PurebloodWorg View Post
    When Purebloodnakh starts thinking about becoming a Charr Thief

    So it has finally all come to an end... after 5 years...

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by PurebloodWorg View Post
    When Purebloodnakh starts thinking about becoming a Charr Thief

    You think we have trouble finding a groomer as Wargs? Good luck with that getup. Do you have any idea what those plates will do to your fur?!
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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

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    You think we have trouble finding a groomer as Wargs? Good luck with that getup. Do you have any idea what those plates will do to your fur?!
    His fur, or plate armour won't protect him from me and my 6 minions.

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    ...freeps and creeps steam roll the map then flip to the other side to steam roll the keeps back.
    ...freeps at the end of flipping the keeps scream in ooc to NOT FLIP LUGS so the creeps won't log.
    ...freeps kill the Tyrant at lugs then insist that they don't need to flip the keep because they already got the quest credit.
    ...wargs complain about being underpowered but pack up and stay stealthed around any force half their size or greater and gank solos with zero risk of being killed.
    ...a substantial % of the population believes fightclubbing is "soloing" and that their 1:1s are real PvMP.
    ...most of the remaining % believes that if you're not in one big group you're doing it wrong because the only way to win is through overwhelming numbers.
    ...others believe that any fight that isn't voluntarilly entered by both parties facing off at each other and jumping up and down like a fool to indicate their readiness is a "gank"
    ...store bought buffs/consumables are more powerful than items earned through literally YEARS, and hundreds if not thousands of hours of play.

    Sheesh, I could go on all day...
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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thane9 View Post
    ...freeps at the end of flipping the keeps scream in ooc to NOT FLIP LUGS so the creeps won't log.
    ...freeps kill the Tyrant at lugs then insist that they don't need to flip the keep because they already got the quest credit.
    If i am around i will always go up and flip lugz blue.
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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    ...people complain about comms cost for skills not scaling with rank when the reality is turbine doesn't police against farmers.

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    ...you just don't do it anymore.

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Fewer sheep come out on fully blue maps, you guys new here?

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    ... when each time you head out to the moors, you log 5 mins later.

    Not funny. True.

    Commendations grind sucks.

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    ... you're bummed they took away your warg's favorite /rude targets by
    renaming the dummies at grams.

    ... you're also bummed they removed players only interaction with
    Kelsen when they renamed the dummies at grams.
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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by harman097 View Post
    ... when each time you head out to the moors, you log 5 mins later.

    Not funny. True.

    Commendations grind sucks.
    Same here :/ Used to creep frequently pre-u6. I log in everytime in hope that I may at least start the commy grind, but then realize I want to have fun in a game

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    ... you're also bummed they removed players only interaction with
    Kelsen when they renamed the dummies at grams.
    I lol'd very hard. +rep

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    ....when a zerglet RK kills your flayer warg in 3 hits

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    When you'd rather pve and grind as a freep since you don't get ambushed trying to build comms to build toons.

    When most of the well know/vets are either taking a break because freeps are op, switching back to the server because freeps are op meaning ez mode for them, or switching from creep to freep because they're easy and op.

    Having to have multiple creeps to take out a minni or a heavy when they slice through you like a hot knife through butter. I think they unbalance the moors so more people will subscribe to be more powerful and get easy kills.

    When our only class that's at a decent place in its development is the warg, and people complain about them being OP because it evens the playing field.

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thane9 View Post
    ...freeps and creeps steam roll the map then flip to the other side to steam roll the keeps back.
    ...freeps at the end of flipping the keeps scream in ooc to NOT FLIP LUGS so the creeps won't log.
    ...freeps kill the Tyrant at lugs then insist that they don't need to flip the keep because they already got the quest credit.
    ...wargs complain about being underpowered but pack up and stay stealthed around any force half their size or greater and gank solos with zero risk of being killed.
    ...a substantial % of the population believes fightclubbing is "soloing" and that their 1:1s are real PvMP.
    ...most of the remaining % believes that if you're not in one big group you're doing it wrong because the only way to win is through overwhelming numbers.
    ...others believe that any fight that isn't voluntarilly entered by both parties facing off at each other and jumping up and down like a fool to indicate their readiness is a "gank"
    ...store bought buffs/consumables are more powerful than items earned through literally YEARS, and hundreds if not thousands of hours of play.

    Sheesh, I could go on all day...
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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...Runescape's Wild starts looking good again.

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    You know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad when I'm getting worried every time one of my characters are close to rank up, coz of the commendations it will cost me for new skills/traits.

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When... you cant solo more than 5 veteran high-ranked creeps at once

    LOLZ, besides the funny-troll part, i believe that class ballance is the greatest issue on lotro pvp atm. For example on my hunter, I can't even dream the things I am able to do on my DPS traited warden.

    PS: im not only crying from a freep's point of view, I am talking about class ballance in general. (Look at defilers for example)

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...you roll a Captain for the 1st time and marvel at receiving your own pocket Creep.

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by darnd View Post
    ... you're bummed they took away your warg's favorite /rude targets by
    renaming the dummies at grams.

    ... you're also bummed they removed players only interaction with
    Kelsen when they renamed the dummies at grams.
    At least the Kelsan in Grams nodded, giving the illusion he was listening to you.
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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by Vladulain View Post
    You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...Runescape's Wild starts looking good again.
    LoL Mine craft is looking good.
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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by Yelloweyedemon View Post
    You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When... you cant solo more than 5 veteran high-ranked creeps at once

    LOLZ, besides the funny-troll part, i believe that class ballance is the greatest issue on lotro pvp atm. For example on my hunter, I can't even dream the things I am able to do on my DPS traited warden.

    PS: im not only crying from a freep's point of view, I am talking about class ballance in general. (Look at defilers for example)
    Just wondering... Are yuou saying defilers are overpowered or underpowered?

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    ...you'd rather stare at your GW2 login screen knowing there's no beta event on to connect to.

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by Glorahealz View Post
    Just wondering... Are yuou saying defilers are overpowered or underpowered?
    underpowered in RvR (you need 2 Defilers and a WL for the same job that one RK or Minstrel can do), but strong in 1vs1

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by Shedera View Post
    ...you'd rather stare at your GW2 login screen knowing there's no beta event on to connect to.
    Is it usual that every time I load up the screen and hear that music I just get a lovely feeling inside?

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    ... when you reaver charge into a group of freeps to kill a lvl40 and die with blade toss in mid-air ...

    ... when you try rp'ing with goblins in grothum, and a burg devs on you for 10k >.>
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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    When Kelsan only posts once every 6 months
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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    When a RK that is lower ranked than you crits on you for 10k damage with Epic Conclusion. I had 9k health.
    When the whole top floor of TA (including the tyrant) +6 creeps ( many vets) can't kill a warden with the relic.
    When wardens think they can solo TR (Ta, LC....other quests meant for groups).
    When a 24-man raids sits on a single spiders burrow.
    When you log into OC and find that you logged in the middle of a freep raid with no other creeps in OC.
    When you log into Lugz Rez and get one shotted, even though the map was freepless 25 minutes ago.
    When 4 hunters track you all at the same time.
    When a raid is dispatched to kill 6 creeps who took an outpost on a completely blue map.
    When the raid leaders leaves, freeps hug the one shotters at the rez.
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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    You see 4 freeps during a weekday primetime after roaming for an hour on arguably one of the top 2 busiest North American servers and GW2 hasn't released yet.


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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    ppl say bad things about Kelsan...cause he is not the one doing pvp changes anymore

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangaar View Post
    ppl say bad things about Kelsan...cause he is not the one doing pvp changes anymore
    I wonder why would they remove such a successful dev ;P

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by Louvre View Post
    I wonder why would they remove such a successful dev ;P
    From what i learned he made really good changes that they were never implemented on live but only on his server on palantir.

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    When every day you log on you see "24-man Fraid at ___ location"
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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by Selebrimbor View Post
    When every day you log on you see "24-man Fraid at ___ location"
    LOL to be fair I think that problem is specific to Riddermark. We get the outnumbered buff sometimes and I'm still waiting to see a Troll .

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    It's bad when i'm reading these forums and online news between, during and even atm, while i'm fighting in the moors and when I die, I just shrug and go back to finishing a thread or a news article because it's more interesting.


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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by apb8808 View Post
    LOL to be fair I think that problem is specific to Riddermark. We get the outnumbered buff sometimes and I'm still waiting to see a Troll .
    Lol it probably is specific to Riddermark. I don't think I have seen it anywhere else xD. I want to see a troll too!
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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by Selebrimbor View Post
    Lol it probably is specific to Riddermark. I don't think I have seen it anywhere else xD. I want to see a troll too!
    Come to Firefoot. Freeps have the outnumbered buff daily.

    Though be warned, if you want to fight our creeps, you'll need to fight all 20+ of them inside a keep they own with your group of 3.

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by DreagonMK View Post
    Come to Firefoot. Freeps have the outnumbered buff daily.

    Though be warned, if you want to fight our creeps, you'll need to fight all 20+ of them inside a keep they own with your group of 3.
    It's usually the opposite on Brandywine.

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stevo6 View Post
    It's usually the opposite on Brandywine.
    Its the opposite on Riddermark as well. Map is flipped, freeps sit on the keeps, creeps stay (or get camped at) Grams and ragelog due to annoyance or because they don't want to feed the zergers.
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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by Selebrimbor View Post
    Its the opposite on Riddermark as well. Map is flipped, freeps sit on the keeps, creeps stay (or get camped at) Grams and ragelog due to annoyance or because they don't want to feed the zergers.
    Same on Evernight .

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    Re: You Know Ettenmoors PvMP is Bad When...

    Quote Originally Posted by Selebrimbor View Post
    Its the opposite on Riddermark as well. Map is flipped, freeps sit on the keeps, creeps stay (or get camped at) Grams and ragelog due to annoyance or because they don't want to feed the zergers.
    Well that too, but freeps on Brandywine make a raid to fight against a unranked defiler. There have been many times where freeps almost double creeps numbers yet hide in a keep.

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