Play Dead
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You are talented at playing dead, causing enemies to ignore you completely.
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My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
I think my warg has that. It seems to activate randomly every 5 minutes of so, except that mine will also pretend to have 0 morale.
Tried /faint in the water once as a freep raid passed by. They went over me and on to a creep trying to run away. I got up after they'd left and walked out laughing (this sadly only ever worked once for me, but omg! it was hilarious)
Nice idea though would be somewhat fitting for wargs to have (anyone ever trained their pet dog to do that trick?). But then again I've seen what usuallyt happens to minstrels who play dead and fail to call in enough allies fast enough so not sure how useful it would be. On my server any warg that actually used the skill if it was implemented would likely find freeps waiting all around in a circle. Possibly even a full raid if unlucky.
However, it would be extremely cool and while we're at it a /growl, /chasetail, /fetch, /sit and /cower emote would be nice too (never understood why wargs can't even sit as one of the warg trainers is actually sitting down. and considering the amount of damage we regularly take and the number of freeps eager to go hunting wargs /cower would be a most fitting emote as well)
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Of course all the Freeps who spam FD on their Hobbits and Minis are opposed to it
Imagine that
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
uhhh wargs definitely don't need another escape skill. maybe give it to WLs? and even that, i don't know...
But its cool for Hobbit Burg to have FD and Double-HiPs
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Many burgs would rather have a 200% sprint. Your point? The classes are two different classes. Why the hell does everybody ALWAYS compare classes that are not the same?
Many burgs would rather have a 200% sprint. Your point? The classes are two different classes. Why the hell does everybody ALWAYS compare classes that are not the same?
Because someone said "Wargs do not need ANOTHER escape skill"
Hobbit Burgs have 3
And a man burg can Manheal
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Play Dead
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Channel Duration: 30s
You are talented at playing dead, causing enemies to ignore you completely.
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You are talented at Trolling, causing forum readers to ignore you completely.
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
uhhh wargs definitely don't need another escape skill. maybe give it to WLs? and even that, i don't know...
Obviously you haven't watched any minis or burgs that try this (or maybe creeps are sad on your server). On E, this isn't an escape skill, it is a "let me lie here and admire your pretty skins before I get torn to pieces 1 second after this wears off" :P
But still, I don't want to be some stinking mini or burg who thinks that lying on the ground will save them.... I'd much prefer something that would give us an aoe to be completely honest :P. Just some small aoe (ehh... maybe 5m range and 300-500 or so dmg) that I can use to knock those burgs out of stealth that just restealthed in front of me :P
I'd much prefer something that would give us an aoe to be completely honest :P. Just some small aoe (ehh... maybe 5m range and 300-500 or so dmg) that I can use to knock those burgs out of stealth that just restealthed in front of me :P
And I'd say r9 for it :P.
Howl of Unnerving or Fleas
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Sure, but I don't see why you'd want this. The number of times that my feign on my Minstrel or my burrow on my Weaver have saved me are... miniscule. Especially if my brand isn't up. Wouldn't a long-cooldown aoe slow similar to the one RKs have be more useful?
Narlinde, level 85 Minstrel, Rank 10, Member of Trucido ~ Windfola
Sorry Commander, this one should go to BA or Defiler
If you want a reason, here is why:
BAs Moving Target only works against hunters and it never saves you from debuffs as distracting shot, stagger, hamstring + the tact classes
Defilers... do they even have a escape skill?
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And logically, Weavers (Spiders) got a Safe Fall recently
Continuing on the same path of logic....what species is best at playing dead?
Dogs/Wargs
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Defilers need an escape skill. All we do when freeps start hitting us is run the opposite direction and hope our 2 on-the-run heals can burn through the immense incoming damage (which of course, hardly ever works)
Sorry commander, wargs aren't the only class on the creepside. The rest of us need buffs too.
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"With that, I ran back to Hobbiton, Land of the Noobs" - TSK
Defilers need an escape skill. All we do when freeps start hitting us is run the opposite direction and hope our 2 on-the-run heals can burn through the immense incoming damage (which of course, hardly ever works)
Sorry commander, wargs aren't the only class on the creepside. The rest of us need buffs too.
Dying Rage
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Sure death after 10s? A dead defiler is not of much use.
My friend if you wish to speak as a Defiler then use the correct Signature
All I see is a worried Champion trying to shoot down an excellent and much-needed new Racial for Wargs
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
My friend if you wish to speak as a Defiler then use the correct Signature
All I see is a worried Champion trying to shoot down an excellent and much-needed new Racial for Wargs
hence my previous post, warg is the best creep class atm. more than I can say for the others >.< Sorry Commander, but not this time.
What wargs need is a +1% damage for each pat they receive stacks 5 times for 5 minutes
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Yes, they die and click "Retreat" and are instantly teleported across the map. On Freepside this is referred to as the "Champ port."
But seriously, Defilers and WLs need some "escape" skills (I prefer to call them "survival" skills, as that's their purpose). Better (more efficient) heals, shorter CDs on those heals, and some type of AoE wound/fear that slows the targets and can't be potted, but can be resisted would help. (Yes I know Defilers can fear, but only 'grey bars' freeps, this one would slow them, and yes WLs can slow one target with their intimidating shout [percentage chance].) Put this on a long cooldown (5m?) and available at some rank above 5.
Worg, I don't want a FD skill. I would prefer an attack speed/speed buff when targets die of 15% for 10s, no cd, but non-stackable (Frenzy/Blood Lust: the smell of blood in the air causes you and your brethren to revel in the carnage wrought by the minions of Mordor.), or possibly change a Warg's Sprint to be longer in duration if we trait for it (currently, for those who don't know, we can only trait to reduce the cooldown on our sprint).
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"If you're smart. You don't want me for an enemy." --Wolverine
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
While I like the idea of having a new racial for my warg I'm not sure that FD is the best choice. Another idea would be to give us the same jump ability as a horse whenever we pop sprint. Running at 200% you would think you could jump farther and perhaps higher. It would also put an end to having folks on top of rocks, bridges or other obstacles where creeps currently cannot climb. OP- please keep the new ideas coming, they get us all thinking.
As for FD for WLs- thanks for thinking about us but I don't think I would ever use it. I've noticed that normally I'm one of or the last to be defeated in a group (so maybe I'm not the best at healing?) so I would probably be surrounded anyways when it expired. Give me a fast melee skill with non-common damage in brawler's so I can hit something. I'd also take dying rage or even better give me "last stand"!
Maybe they could also introduce a "stick" to the store which the freeps can throw causing the 5+ wargs that jump them on the way from the gy to chase that instead of themselves
Warg becomes adept at digging. Warg is now capable of carrying more items than any other creep by digging holes throughout the ettenmoors. The warg can then off load some of his inventory and bury it so no one else can have it.
New Stance digger. Warg can now dig warg sized tunnels and pass unseen and untracked through the moors. He can then dig back up through the ground as an induction and attack unsuspecting freeps.
I created a rough map of the moors that describes how the warg can move through the moors. Now mind you this is a rough draft so don't be too critical
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(this sadly only ever worked once for me, but omg! it was hilarious)
would be somewhat fitting for wargs to have (anyone ever trained their pet dog to do that trick?). But then again I've seen what usuallyt happens to minstrels who play dead and fail to call in enough allies fast enough so not sure how useful it would be. On my server any warg that actually used the skill if it was implemented would likely find freeps waiting all around in a circle. Possibly even a full raid if unlucky.
and while we're at it a /growl, /chasetail, /fetch, /sit and /cower emote would be nice too 
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