You raid babies really stick up for each other, don't ya Azadino? She's not complaining about anyone's play style but those who interfere with hers; which is reasonable. Don't be so offended when someone calls out one of your kind for being intolerant of other play styles.
Raid babies often complain about soloers interfering with their play style by soloing them on their way back to the raid from a rez circle; and that's alright. So what do we do about it? We LOL!
This solo guy was lose to me an he rans out of combat to use Desporate Flights.
Let's keep the personal attacks aimed towards the person for whom this thread was made for whoever that guy is. And for the love of all that is great and wonderful, can we please talk about how amazing my drawing is? You know, the one Tbow took the liberty of posting.
Thanks guise love ya, mean it.
Oh you drew that one? Well then, you can have a cookie!
And for the love of all that is great and wonderful, can we please talk about how amazing my drawing is? You know, the one Tbow took the liberty of posting.
You made the lemming pic and Tbow gave no credit? Bad Tbow.
My final take on Adino after watching his raids the second time around. I was able to hear chat in his raids but not actually participate. It gave me a new perspective on the entire situation. The first time Adino was doing this 4-5+ months ago I enjoyed it being the newb I was. I didn't know much about the moors and got a lot of easy renown from it. The second time I look at it a little different. I think its safe to agree Adino makes a group within 15-30 minutes of being out in the moors. Like most of you said he then proceeds to charge the keeps and take them back one by one. Then he will usually sit his raid infront of grams and declare it a free for all(aka destroy what little creeps remain because he zerged them into oblivion) I also think its safe to say that in doing this, it destroys any chance of small group / solo play. If and when you try to run around solo with one of his raids out you will either
a)run into the opposing raid and get zerged
b)never find anyone soloing because of the point above
c)turn to staying near a rez to get people as they stream back until they tell Adino who will bring the raid in to take you out
That being said Adino is allowed to do as he pleases. Obviously it gets ridiculous because its an everyday raid with as many people as possible being invited.
I heard him say a lot of things over the mic the past couple days..here were some of my favorites
"The way to deal with reavers is focus fire them all night over and over until they log and stop playing."
Sitting outside grams with atleast 15+ person raid
"I hate rez campers"
"We aren't rez camping them, they can go the back way to DG, or map out)
-And proceed to do what? You have gathered every freep on the map
-Also...with that being said what exactly is rez camping? There is always a different way to get out of a rez...
"All these creeps hate me because I teach you all how to play..I teach how to use teamwork to win fights"
"This is why I take keeps. The creeps never want to fight us."
These so called creeps were about 12(if that) compared to his 20ish person group.
Take what you want from it. I'm not going through this Adino zerg/rage again. Wasn't fun the first time sure as hell won't be fun this time.
My final take on Adino after watching his raids the second time around. I was able to hear chat in his raids but not actually participate. It gave me a new perspective on the entire situation. The first time Adino was doing this 4-5+ months ago I enjoyed it being the newb I was. I didn't know much about the moors and got a lot of easy renown from it. The second time I look at it a little different. I think its safe to agree Adino makes a group within 15-30 minutes of being out in the moors. Like most of you said he then proceeds to charge the keeps and take them back one by one. Then he will usually sit his raid infront of grams and declare it a free for all(aka destroy what little creeps remain because he zerged them into oblivion) I also think its safe to say that in doing this, it destroys any chance of small group / solo play. If and when you try to run around solo with one of his raids out you will either
a)run into the opposing raid and get zerged
b)never find anyone soloing because of the point above
c)turn to staying near a rez to get people as they stream back until they tell Adino who will bring the raid in to take you out
That being said Adino is allowed to do as he pleases. Obviously it gets ridiculous because its an everyday raid with as many people as possible being invited.
I heard him say a lot of things over the mic the past couple days..here were some of my favorites
"The way to deal with reavers is focus fire them all night over and over until they log and stop playing."
Sitting outside grams with atleast 15+ person raid
"I hate rez campers"
"We aren't rez camping them, they can go the back way to DG, or map out)
-And proceed to do what? You have gathered every freep on the map
-Also...with that being said what exactly is rez camping? There is always a different way to get out of a rez...
"All these creeps hate me because I teach you all how to play..I teach how to use teamwork to win fights"
"This is why I take keeps. The creeps never want to fight us."
These so called creeps were about 12(if that) compared to his 20ish person group.
Take what you want from it. I'm not going through this Adino zerg/rage again. Wasn't fun the first time sure as hell won't be fun this time.
I wasn't saying I was a victim, I took the SS because I know creeps had been upset about Adino's EC camp/farms and I wanted to expose the hypocrisy I saw.
Originally Posted by ivan11787
I like how you went through the trouble to make your own memes
I wasn't saying I was a victim, I took the SS because I know creeps had been upset about Adino's EC camp/farms and I wanted to expose the hypocrisy I saw.
One of these is not like the other.
The first one depicts an organized raid charging into OC for one kill.
The second depicts a foolhardy player purposely running into an unorganized number of creeps and attacking them and somehow claiming it to be an EC zerg.
In order to "expose hypocrisy", there needs to be hypocrisy. In order for that to be correct, both actions must be the same which you clearly demonstrated isn't the case. Nobody on creepside is complaining about an Adino raid standing there and defending itself if a single crazed lunatic decides to charge at them.
Want to try again? I'll give you 2 more chances. A toy teddybear if you finally get it right.
there are a select few who see what is happening and stop following adino, but what i dont get is why so many still follow him all the time when he bails on them the second things go badly.
Note the lack of adino here... he ran to GV and left this lone warden to cover his retreat when they failed to take SOP. Why do people let him do this all the time? I would be pissed
there are a select few who see what is happening and stop following adino, but what i dont get is why so many still follow him all the time when he bails on them the second things go badly.
Note the lack of adino here... he ran to GV and left this lone warden to cover his retreat when they failed to take SOP. Why do people let him do this all the time? I would be pissed
Because without him, they think they have no way to gain points and comms. It's all many of them know.
I still remember all the times I watched creeps turning the tide and him standing in safety in the back mapping out of the fight.
Because without him, they think they have no way to gain points and comms. It's all many of them know.
I still remember all the times I watched creeps turning the tide and him standing in safety in the back mapping out of the fight.
<3 Bonnie
The problem is that a lot of new people on freepside don't have anyone helping them out. If some of the vets helped them out by training them, they would be a lot less dependent on big raids.
Your screenshot was not exactly like Thunderbow's: there is a difference between a raided up zerg and an ungrouped zerg. I will now continue to vomit words about how I believe you purposely charged from EC into a creep zerg just TO be zerged so you can cry about it with your SS -- because it clearly isn't that you made a generalization about EC/OC farms and the hypocrisy both creeps and freeps have for them!
As you can tell from my SS I was the only one pushing for my kills
Originally Posted by ivan11787
One of these is not like the other.
The first one depicts an organized raid charging into OC for one kill.
The second depicts a foolhardy player purposely running into an unorganized number of creeps and attacking them and somehow claiming it to be an EC zerg.
In order to "expose hypocrisy", there needs to be hypocrisy. In order for that to be correct, both actions must be the same which you clearly demonstrated isn't the case. Nobody on creepside is complaining about an Adino raid standing there and defending itself if a single crazed lunatic decides to charge at them.
Want to try again? I'll give you 2 more chances. A toy teddybear if you finally get it right.
The problem is that a lot of new people on freepside don't have anyone helping them out. If some of the vets helped them out by training them, they would be a lot less dependent on big raids.
/Aza
You're a vet and you play freepside, start training.
I do think this is rather a cop-out statement to justify the behavior though. Many people who go out, just go out. You don't need a training course to PvP, you just need to go out and fight. It's not much different from PvE in a way, usually no one is holding your hand when you first start, you wander, explore and try to kill things. This just happens to be PvE on hardmode. You learn as you go, but yes, if you go out and are immediately recruited to a raid and drink the kool-aid, it's going to be a struggle to do anything else. Thankfully, many players who started that way did branch out and start doing more.
My final take on Adino after watching his raids the second time around. I was able to hear chat in his raids but not actually participate. It gave me a new perspective on the entire situation. The first time Adino was doing this 4-5+ months ago I enjoyed it being the newb I was. I didn't know much about the moors and got a lot of easy renown from it. The second time I look at it a little different. I think its safe to agree Adino makes a group within 15-30 minutes of being out in the moors. Like most of you said he then proceeds to charge the keeps and take them back one by one. Then he will usually sit his raid infront of grams and declare it a free for all(aka destroy what little creeps remain because he zerged them into oblivion) I also think its safe to say that in doing this, it destroys any chance of small group / solo play. If and when you try to run around solo with one of his raids out you will either
a)run into the opposing raid and get zerged
b)never find anyone soloing because of the point above
c)turn to staying near a rez to get people as they stream back until they tell Adino who will bring the raid in to take you out
That being said Adino is allowed to do as he pleases. Obviously it gets ridiculous because its an everyday raid with as many people as possible being invited.
I heard him say a lot of things over the mic the past couple days..here were some of my favorites
"The way to deal with reavers is focus fire them all night over and over until they log and stop playing."
Sitting outside grams with atleast 15+ person raid
"I hate rez campers"
"We aren't rez camping them, they can go the back way to DG, or map out)
-And proceed to do what? You have gathered every freep on the map
-Also...with that being said what exactly is rez camping? There is always a different way to get out of a rez...
"All these creeps hate me because I teach you all how to play..I teach how to use teamwork to win fights"
"This is why I take keeps. The creeps never want to fight us."
These so called creeps were about 12(if that) compared to his 20ish person group.
Take what you want from it. I'm not going through this Adino zerg/rage again. Wasn't fun the first time sure as hell won't be fun this time.
Good luck to you all!
Good stuff Bigears.
There's nothing wrong with playing how you want to play, but sometimes it's nice to not have a zerg blow up soloer's or at least respect the known soloers trying to get a pitiful scrap of infamy/renown from mama-zerg's teat.
Eh, I've said it again and will say it again - Respect your opponents, and you will gain the same in return. If you feel the other side isn't having fun or gaining points, why should your opponent stay and fight? If you make it fun for everyone, everyone wins. Period.
There's nothing wrong with playing how you want to play, but sometimes it's nice to not have a zerg blow up soloer's or at least respect the known soloers trying to get a pitiful scrap of infamy/renown from mama-zerg's teat.
Eh, I've said it again and will say it again - Respect your opponents, and you will gain the same in return. If you feel the other side isn't having fun or gaining points, why should your opponent stay and fight? If you make it fun for everyone, everyone wins. Period.
I wish more people would figure this out. Treat your opponent like garbage, it won't be long before you are only playing with yourself.
My final take on Adino after watching his raids the second time around. I was able to hear chat in his raids but not actually participate. It gave me a new perspective on the entire situation. The first time Adino was doing this 4-5+ months ago I enjoyed it being the newb I was. I didn't know much about the moors and got a lot of easy renown from it. The second time I look at it a little different. I think its safe to agree Adino makes a group within 15-30 minutes of being out in the moors. Like most of you said he then proceeds to charge the keeps and take them back one by one. Then he will usually sit his raid infront of grams and declare it a free for all(aka destroy what little creeps remain because he zerged them into oblivion) I also think its safe to say that in doing this, it destroys any chance of small group / solo play. If and when you try to run around solo with one of his raids out you will either
a)run into the opposing raid and get zerged
b)never find anyone soloing because of the point above
c)turn to staying near a rez to get people as they stream back until they tell Adino who will bring the raid in to take you out
That being said Adino is allowed to do as he pleases. Obviously it gets ridiculous because its an everyday raid with as many people as possible being invited.
I heard him say a lot of things over the mic the past couple days..here were some of my favorites
"The way to deal with reavers is focus fire them all night over and over until they log and stop playing."
Sitting outside grams with atleast 15+ person raid
"I hate rez campers"
"We aren't rez camping them, they can go the back way to DG, or map out)
-And proceed to do what? You have gathered every freep on the map
-Also...with that being said what exactly is rez camping? There is always a different way to get out of a rez...
"All these creeps hate me because I teach you all how to play..I teach how to use teamwork to win fights"
"This is why I take keeps. The creeps never want to fight us."
These so called creeps were about 12(if that) compared to his 20ish person group.
Take what you want from it. I'm not going through this Adino zerg/rage again. Wasn't fun the first time sure as hell won't be fun this time.
Since you clearly misinterpreted my post, let me explain it to you in more clear words; if it's even possible. I said we LOL when the raid babies complain about us soloing them on their way to the zerg. What this means is, when a raid baby leaves the rez, and is then "ganked" by a solo freep, and then complains about said ganking and makes a forum post about it; we (we being the solo players) LOL (it's a commonly used initialism to explain that we are "Laughing Out Loud"). So basically, we (again, we being the soloers) "Laugh Out Loud" when the raid babies [those who never come to the moors (short for Ettenmoors) without a raid] complain about getting killed by a soloer (someone who PvPs, or Player Versus Players, by himself or herself) kills them solo (by themself).
I hope you can more easily interpret this, as I feel that I've described more in depth the parts that could have confused you.
I did not say anyone Laughs Out Loud when they rage log (log off due to anger and frustration at the game or its players), I said that some people Laugh Out Loud when others complain about getting solod. Have a good day sir.
My final take on Adino after watching his raids the second time around. I was able to hear chat in his raids but not actually participate. It gave me a new perspective on the entire situation. The first time Adino was doing this 4-5+ months ago I enjoyed it being the newb I was. I didn't know much about the moors and got a lot of easy renown from it. The second time I look at it a little different. I think its safe to agree Adino makes a group within 15-30 minutes of being out in the moors. Like most of you said he then proceeds to charge the keeps and take them back one by one. Then he will usually sit his raid infront of grams and declare it a free for all(aka destroy what little creeps remain because he zerged them into oblivion) I also think its safe to say that in doing this, it destroys any chance of small group / solo play. If and when you try to run around solo with one of his raids out you will either
a)run into the opposing raid and get zerged
b)never find anyone soloing because of the point above
c)turn to staying near a rez to get people as they stream back until they tell Adino who will bring the raid in to take you out
That being said Adino is allowed to do as he pleases. Obviously it gets ridiculous because its an everyday raid with as many people as possible being invited.
I heard him say a lot of things over the mic the past couple days..here were some of my favorites
"The way to deal with reavers is focus fire them all night over and over until they log and stop playing."
Sitting outside grams with atleast 15+ person raid
"I hate rez campers"
"We aren't rez camping them, they can go the back way to DG, or map out)
-And proceed to do what? You have gathered every freep on the map
-Also...with that being said what exactly is rez camping? There is always a different way to get out of a rez...
"All these creeps hate me because I teach you all how to play..I teach how to use teamwork to win fights"
"This is why I take keeps. The creeps never want to fight us."
These so called creeps were about 12(if that) compared to his 20ish person group.
Take what you want from it. I'm not going through this Adino zerg/rage again. Wasn't fun the first time sure as hell won't be fun this time.
Good luck to you all!
Great post, +rep. Careful now, Adino might shun you as a solo elitist jerk, and make fun of you in OOC!
Speaking of EC deaths, at least your not that scrub mini, hmm, what was his name, rank 10, fail, hmmm....ah yes! Who makes a living in EC kiting rank 1s around npcs, flopping and full heal, bubble, blah blah blah. Keep up the good work X#$%!
Your such an inspiration for all of the things a mini never ever should be. We award you the eager beaver award
So you see.....its a double edged sword. Those fails who cant come out and fight one on one, need EC to make them feel brave...a security blankie of sorts. The hunter that lives on the ramp, surrounded by triple traps and snares....living in paranoia. Fun experience there brother. Blaze on! Oh, have I said too much? Wanted to keep him anonymous.
Speaking of EC deaths, at least your not that scrub mini, hmm, what was his name, rank 10, fail, hmmm....ah yes! Who makes a living in EC kiting rank 1s around npcs, flopping and full heal, bubble, blah blah blah. Keep up the good work X#$%!
Your such an inspiration for all of the things a mini never ever should be. We award you the eager beaver award
So you see.....its a double edged sword. Those fails who cant come out and fight one on one, need EC to make them feel brave...a security blankie of sorts. The hunter that lives on the ramp, surrounded by triple traps and snares....living in paranoia. Fun experience there brother. Blaze on! Oh, have I said too much? Wanted to keep him anonymous.
Lol. This is somewhat like what I was trying to say earlier: the freeps that hide out in EC/stealthed on bridges shouldn't complain about being zerged.
However, tis odd that we have people on both sides complaing about zerging when many of them do the same thing to others on a regular basis. A lot of hypocrisy going on right now, on both sides.
Since you clearly misinterpreted my post, let me explain it to you in more clear words; if it's even possible. I said we LOL when the raid babies complain about us soloing them on their way to the zerg. What this means is, when a raid baby leaves the rez, and is then "ganked" by a solo freep, and then complains about said ganking and makes a forum post about it; we (we being the solo players) LOL (it's a commonly used initialism to explain that we are "Laughing Out Loud"). So basically, we (again, we being the soloers) "Laugh Out Loud" when the raid babies [those who never come to the moors (short for Ettenmoors) without a raid] complain about getting killed by a soloer (someone who PvPs, or Player Versus Players, by himself or herself) kills them solo (by themself).
I hope you can more easily interpret this, as I feel that I've described more in depth the parts that could have confused you.
I did not say anyone Laughs Out Loud when they rage log (log off due to anger and frustration at the game or its players), I said that some people Laugh Out Loud when others complain about getting solod. Have a good day sir.
That post was directed towards Akara. Why are you speaking for her? Do you not think that she is capable of defending herself? Are you calling her incompetent? Seriously dude. Apologize to her now. That is unacceptable behaviour on your part.
That post was directed towards Akara. Why are you speaking for her? Do you not think that she is capable of defending herself? Are you calling her incompetent? Seriously dude. Apologize to her now. That is unacceptable behaviour on your part.
There's nothing wrong with playing how you want to play, but sometimes it's nice to not have a zerg blow up soloer's or at least respect the known soloers trying to get a pitiful scrap of infamy/renown from mama-zerg's teat.
That post was directed towards Akara. Why are you speaking for her? Do you not think that she is capable of defending herself? Are you calling her incompetent? Seriously dude. Apologize to her now. That is unacceptable behaviour on your part.
/Aza
You quoted my post, genius; so I replied. You need to stop indicating to everyone that you are incompetent. Seriously dude, have some self-respect.
Oh, and you I take it you still had trouble understanding the simplified and dumbed-down version of my post since you had no real response to it. I guess I wouldn't be a good special needs teacher
Can you read post #248 for me. After you read that, I will like to know your response. Something tells me you won't respond or you will be saying what bigears said is lies.
Funny, Rank 0's did better than you and Gundamir( HELP ADINO IM GETTING ZERGED... 1 r3 warg is a zerg)
Bigears post was really the only non-trolling post on this whole thread. I wish I could give him more rep, alas! It was the best post I have seen in a long time.
Bigears post was really the only non-trolling post on this whole thread. I wish I could give him more rep, alas! It was the best post I have seen in a long time.
I haven't trolled once! My posts have all been derail attempts, unfortunately the butthurt is flowing too strongly for derailment of this thread.
Trolling ≠ expressing a differing opinion, commenting on someone's actions or arguing against something. It's unfortunate so many people are unable to differentiate between the two and instead think "You disagree with me or don't like something I do, therefore you are a troll." That's not how it works.
Many posts in here are actually not trolling. Some specifically are.
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