Is it just me or are my packs filling up with stuff I can't sell or drop?
I already have pack full of crafting items I need, I have another pack filling with items the game is giving me that I can't sell or drop, so my last remaining pack gets full fast. Is there some reason for this other then trying to force me to buy another pack?
Also I see what looks like game store money being built up; think I have 10 or 15, will I get enough to actually buy anything in the store?
Sorry, after being burnt twice I don't let these games anywhere near my bank account.
Does it seem rather absurd that hunters can't have a dog or hawk? That seems to me like it would be "gimmy" for the class.
So far I like the game, looks nice, players ok, crafting{or what ever it is called here} seems deep enough to be fun but not so complex as to put a person off. It's also nice to see a game where the animals don't have weapons and armor; I always thought it was hilarious to find a full suit of armor on a bear when you loot it lol
I really hope I can play through this with out coughing up some cash. Like I said after having to cancel 2 bank cards and change my account number I don't spend money on these games.
Is it just me or are my packs filling up with stuff I can't sell or drop?
I already have pack full of crafting items I need, I have another pack filling with items the game is giving me that I can't sell or drop, so my last remaining pack gets full fast. Is there some reason for this other then trying to force me to buy another pack?
This is normal - storage space is an issue for all characters, regardless of level. First of all, head to nearest Vault (Bree, Michel Delving, Celondim, Thorin's Hall), where you can put some items into long-term storage. You can also buy a house, where you get extra storage in chests.
Originally Posted by manstan
Also I see what looks like game store money being built up; think I have 10 or 15, will I get enough to actually buy anything in the store?
Sorry, after being burnt twice I don't let these games anywhere near my bank account.
Most deeds only award 5-10 TP, but they do add up. If you're determined to play purely F2P, it's possible, but be prepared to grind. After a while money sounds like a reasonable alternative.
Originally Posted by manstan
Does it seem rather absurd that hunters can't have a dog or hawk? That seems to me like it would be "gimmy" for the class.
LOTRO is not WOW. Here, Hunter is the ranged class and Lore-Master is pet class, with animals following him around. Think of it, did Legolas had a cute animal sidekick?
Originally Posted by manstan
So far I like the game, looks nice, players ok, crafting{or what ever it is called here} seems deep enough to be fun but not so complex as to put a person off. It's also nice to see a game where the animals don't have weapons and armor; I always thought it was hilarious to find a full suit of armor on a bear when you loot it lol
I'm not so much determined to play this through for free, as determined I am not buying anyone else in Europe computers. Or paying for someone elses subscription for a year to play on my account.
For your bank accounts I'm sorry to hear what happened to you. If you want to spend money on LOTRO and not use your Bank Account for it, just buy TP point cards at gamestop, Walmart and some other places. If you don't have one near you, Amazon has them as well. With that TP you can buy nearly everything that LOTRO has to offer. Even the additional bags.
But no one forces you to buy more bag space. If you feel your bags fill up to fast but you still want to store everything you need/want, don't complain about that two tiny bags are not enough for that. And of course this is a way for Turbine to make money. But there is nothing bad about it, cause it a free game - you just buy bonus stuff. You will find a lot of stuff you probably will say "Hey, I thought this game is free to play". But if everything would be accessible for everyone, what reason would there be for VIPs to pay their monthly fee and who should pay the Turbine employees.
I strated as pure f2p as well and without spending any real money on the game i was able to buy all Bags, the currency removal, two Quest Packs and some trait slots. Than I started spending money on the game cause it is totally worth it. Each of the starter Areas that are free for everyone have like between 200 and 350 TP that you can earn. A lot to earn and a lot to spend again
Having a Hunter as my main, I personally would like to have the chance to have a Pet dog too. But of course not with that many options as the Lore Master has. Just being able to summon it, chance to switch stances (neutral & aggressive), attack and stop. Thats all. Something like everyone now has with the option to call and use your skirmish soldier in PvE.
I really hope I can play through this with out coughing up some cash.
No. That won't work. Someone out there did the math. There aren't enough TP that you can earn to buy everything you need to play the game completely. But you nearly can. All you need to do is to buy the Moria Expansion Box in a sore somewhere. Not the one from the LOTRO store cause this doesn't give you the additional bonus TP.
When you buy the Moria Expansion you can buy one low level QP (Angmar or Evendim would be the best cause you can earn the most TP here). Than Moria gives you a freakin lot of TP as well. Than you can buy Enedwaith QP and save up the rest of your TP for either Isengard or the Great River Region.
A few weeks agao i posted a list of how to level up and earn TP easily. Go here to read about it. There is a list of how much TP you can earn in certain Areas compared to their price from the store.
Buy Evendim QP (costs 595 TP) … (you can earn 275 TP here from deeds)
or buy Angmar (costs 795 TP) … (you can earn 480 TP here from deeds)
Buy Moria QP (costs 1495 TP) … (you can earn around 900 TP here: 330 TP from regular deeds and another 580 from instances deeds)
Also I see what looks like game store money being built up; think I have 10 or 15, will I get enough to actually buy anything in the store?
Sorry, after being burnt twice I don't let these games anywhere near my bank account.
I earned at least 15k TP since I started playing in September 2010 by just playing the game.
So yes it is possible but it will not happen overnight.
It averages about 25 TP per day since then which I do not think is a very high value overall as I did not do specific grinds for TP (only for virtues/rep).
It however helps if you decide to spend some money on the game.
Originally Posted by JanTATW
No. That won't work. Someone out there did the math. There aren't enough TP that you can earn to buy everything you need to play the game completely. But you nearly can. All you need to do is to buy the Moria Expansion Box in a sore somewhere. Not the one from the LOTRO store cause this doesn't give you the additional bonus TP.
Me thinks someone needs to redo the math.
Of course it is possible besides the things that you cannot get for TP at all (like being able to send gold by mail, permanent swift travel, freep access to the moors).
You can (possibly) create an infinite(*) number of characters if you decide to delete them and use them just for grinding deeds.
So the number of TP you can earn is only limited by your free time to grind for TPs.
Whether that is fun and a proper evaluation of what one does with his time is a totally different story though.
(*)As you do not have infinite time you will not be able to do that but you can create a large enough number of characters to actually get enough TP to buy all the content in the game.
Well you are right. I was more replying from the view of having one character that you play. I was not talking about the multi character repeatably TP grind.
Because I think when you are new to the game you want to have fun playing it and have a reason to go on playing. Creating like 10 new characters in a row and do every single deed (and a freaking lot of quests for the quest number deed and the reputation deed) in The Shire, Bree-Land, Ered Luin and Lonelands is so freaking boring and everyone who is new to the game will start loosing fun in the game really fast.
I was thinking about way to being able to play as f2p until he reaches end-game while having fun. The f2p project that one guy did one year back shows how to do that. You can watch all ofhis videos of one (!) f2p character on his way to lvl 65, with only buying Moria.
Well you are right. I was more replying from the view of having one character that you play. I was not talking about the multi character repeatably TP grind.
Ok now I understand .
That is of course something to agree with.
In my case I never did that "create character for TP" grind but still accumulated over 15k TP.
I also have only the character in my sig at 75. I have a lot of alts though that are stuck somewhere at almost every level range.
However I did spend some money on the game to make life easier and more fun.
And having just one toon for me would just not do it. Maxing a single toon is not what I get the most fun out of but I agree that the content is not that interesting anymore when you do it over and over again.
Is it just me or are my packs filling up with stuff I can't sell or drop?
I already have pack full of crafting items I need, I have another pack filling with items the game is giving me that I can't sell or drop, so my last remaining pack gets full fast. Is there some reason for this other then trying to force me to buy another pack?
What are the items you can't sell or drop? Maybe something is bugged.
I know the gift box a new character gets will have store items that are bound and can't be sold, but I believe you can destroy them if you won't use them. Other than that I'm not sure what goes in the bags that has a restriction early on.
Well as I said I started as pure f2p too. I honestly don't know how much TP I earned from in-game deeds. But my Hunter (my main), has all virtues that I use at lvl 15 (all in all I think I have like 15 Virtues above lvl 10) and he is World renowned (plus kindred with Lothlorien & Mirkwood, both Isengard factions and both Great River factions are kindred as well) and I have the 2 Moria Meta Deed Mounts - I think that speaks for itself regarding the deeds I have done. Should be something between 8k and 10k I guess.)
But until today I already spend around 200$ to buy TP and two months of VIP. But I did that because I wasn't able to buy a lifetime subscription anymore (I started a little to late for that). So I decided to buy me a fake lifetime subscription in the LOTRO store, which I now have.
I have everything a VIP / lifetimer has, except for PvP as freep. But I don't like PvP that much anyway. Other than that I have everything else. Expansions, Questpack, Instances, Raids, Skirmishes, maxed Shared Storage and Wardrobe, Auction Hall slots, 5 additional Milestones, Swift travel (for already discovered stables), the Warden and RK class, the Dusky Nimblefood Goat, crafting guild access for 5 characters and everything else there is.
I did some math (this thime myself ) with the values from the LOTRO wiki store rice list (here) and if I count all my purchases together I get close to 24.500 TP as the result. But I got like half of the Questpacks that i bought on sales (Angmar even for 70% off) and i got both the Mirkwood and Moria Expansion as well as the Store Goat for 50% off. So I guess I have spend like 18 to 20k TP.
But I also do buy some other convenience stuff from time to time, like Morale and Power Booster, perks, maps and other things that i need. And of course some cosmetics from time to time. I guess that are additional 4000 TP in the 1,5 Years that I play now.
Oh and I have two lvl 75 characters (Hunter & RK), a lvl 51 Guardian, a lvl 43 Warden and two low level characters (Burglar and Lore-Master).
Why is it called hobby when there is only one? Fishing. It should just be called fishing. Others that would work would be bird watching, insect collecting, and whittling.
Note: I'm country boy. The closest walmat is 50miles way, and the rest of those are 80 miles way. If I had a clue where they were in Columbia; MO.
Why is it called hobby when there is only one? Fishing. It should just be called fishing. Others that would work would be bird watching, insect collecting, and whittling.
They added Hobby system back in 2008, with Fishing as the first one available. Since then - nothing: no new hobbies, no word of any new hobbies, just small tweaks to fishing now and then. They have not renamed Hobby tab to Fishing tab - so people can hope we'll see another some day. Players have been throwing ideas at them for years - dozens of potential hobbies that could work. Apparently, Fishing showed that too few players ever bothered with it to waste developer resources again on another one.
I really hope I can play through this with out coughing up some cash. Like I said after having to cancel 2 bank cards and change my account number I don't spend money on these games.
You can play a good chunk of the game before you need to buy anything. However, even spending $15 on a one month subscription is worth the money.
I had concerns about using my bank card but another way to do it is to get a pre-paid Visa card from the grocery store or even some gas stations carry them. Put $30 on it and then when Turbine runs the $9.99 per month special, if you buy 3 months. If you have 2 toons, this will unlock the extra bags and gold for those toons and any other that you create while you are VIP. (Note... I believe that is how it works, so for any more experienced players please correct me if Im wrong). This would also get you 1500 TPS for buying additional regions if you save them up.
Overall I have spent around $100 (I bought Rise of Isengard Legendary to get the Path of the Fellowship for $60 or somewheres in there) and have played the game for one year, and I'm just hitting Moria now with my main character. It really doesnt come less expensive than this for a quality game.
Well now I am having to deal with some frustrations in the game. Finally figured out what to do about tool tips constantly poping up and blocking the screen; set up the delay in UI. But what to do about all the garbage in the chat? I don't need a blow by blow description of what I am doing, I don't need the chat to repeat what NPCs say, and I don't want to read everything an NPC says as I walk by. I keep turning more and more off in the chat but haven't yet figured out how to get it to just player posts.
Also can I get a cloak with UPS on the back? I am doing a lot of pick up and delivery quests LOL
Well now I am having to deal with some frustrations in the game. Finally figured out what to do about tool tips constantly poping up and blocking the screen; set up the delay in UI. But what to do about all the garbage in the chat? I don't need a blow by blow description of what I am doing, I don't need the chat to repeat what NPCs say, and I don't want to read everything an NPC says as I walk by. I keep turning more and more off in the chat but haven't yet figured out how to get it to just player posts.
Also can I get a cloak with UPS on the back? I am doing a lot of pick up and delivery quests LOL
For the tooltips, there is another option that I find works better for me. I check off "Enable Static Placed Tooltips" in the options. This Allows you to choose where on the screen the tooltips appear and stick all of them there rather than having them appear at the pointer. Don't know if that would work for you, but wanted you to know it is possible.
In chat, unfortunately there is no way to separate player "say" from NPC "say", but for everything else, I just make a tab that has only Regional, OOC, Trade, Advice, and whatever userchat channels I'm using. Then I leave all the system stuff in its own tab in case I want to reference it later.
The delay on the tool tips is fine for me. It was just aggravating have them popup and block my view; like when selecting an attack during a battle.
A problem has come up that is really aggravating and has to be a bug. The quest pointer keeps changing quests while I am doing a quest. Been many times I have been running along; after getting the paper work to ride I didn't have the silver left for a horse, have a battle or some thing and I think I have turned myself around, only to see; later, that the quest pointer has changed to a different quest. Is there some way to lock this down?
Whom came up with the anniversary quests? I'm working on the one where all you have to do is visit some places, I had already been on the ruin for a while when I got to the last one, and after running across 2 lands and entering the dwarf kingdom I saw I still had to run to the other end of it. I shut it down for the night then.
I also seem to have out leveled the quests in the area I am working in; Bree land. I think I spent too much time hunting for pelts lol
The delay on the tool tips is fine for me. It was just aggravating have them popup and block my view; like when selecting an attack during a battle.
A problem has come up that is really aggravating and has to be a bug. The quest pointer keeps changing quests while I am doing a quest. Been many times I have been running along; after getting the paper work to ride I didn't have the silver left for a horse, have a battle or some thing and I think I have turned myself around, only to see; later, that the quest pointer has changed to a different quest. Is there some way to lock this down?
Whom came up with the anniversary quests? I'm working on the one where all you have to do is visit some places, I had already been on the ruin for a while when I got to the last one, and after running across 2 lands and entering the dwarf kingdom I saw I still had to run to the other end of it. I shut it down for the night then.
I also seem to have out leveled the quests in the area I am working in; Bree land. I think I spent too much time hunting for pelts lol
The quest pointer will always point to the closest location of any quests you currently have in your quest tracker. But if you right click on the quest in the tracker, you can select to lock the quest pointer (as well as having the option to the lock the quest itself to stop it getting kicked out of the tracker when you get new ones).
But I'm afraid you'd better get used to travelling around Middle Earth on wild goose chases for quests. A lot of quests do tend to do that (particularly many of the Epic quests that I've done so far). If you have the silver, you can make life easier for yourself by buying stable horses. The early areas are easiest to get to, since you can buy a journey between Bree, Thorin's Hall, Michel Delving and Celondim for only 1 silver, and it's swift travel so no long wait while the horse rides either. As you get further in the game you can also earn some reputation travel skills which can make getting about easier, and set your milestone skill to somewhere you are frequently travelling to.
Outlevelling an area is pretty common. You don't have to do all quests (though doing enough for the quest deeds in the area is helpful), but if you're having fun don't feel you have to stop either
Helpful strategies I found for keeping some bag space and making life easier:
1) If it's loot, sell it (if you're F2P this means vendor or non-cash barter, you can't list on AH or use cash for trades) unless it meets one of 3 conditions: a) you can turn it in for faction rep/bounty; b) it's something you can use yourself for crafting; or c) it's one of those rare equipment items you'll be able to use a few levels from now.
2) The vault is your friend! Swing by a vaultkeeper every time you're near one.
3) Pay repairs, use stables for travel, and buy potions if you can't self-heal, but otherwise save up all your cash for a mount (and TP for the riding skill if you're not VIP). This speeds up your ability to generate cash by 66%! I found I repaid the cost of the mount within a few hours of gameplay. You will get better equipment as quest rewards than you can buy from regular vendors, anyhow.
4) Once you have a mount, start saving for a house, because once you have the house, you can buy a chest, which equals 20 more storage slots. A house doesn't burn TP, just cash, and the weekly upkeep is easy to afford once you amass enough cash to purchase the house. If you're F2P you can only have 2 gold active at a time anyhow unless you spend TP to get the cap lifted, so you might as well see the cash used for something instead of disappearing into the currency overflow. A house also gives you a milestone-like skill; since I bought a house near Thorin's Hall, I use my house-return skill to get into Ered Luin and use my milestone skill for Bree.
5) Stables save you much hassle! If you see a stable symbol anywhere nearby on the map, make sure you swing by and right-click on the stablemaster. You will see his/her list of available destinations, and you can get back there from those destinations at any time once you have officially "discovered" the stable. Some of these will be swift travel routes (you don't have to ride through all the intervening countryside), and some will be slow travel---you'll be placed on a horse that then rides at regular horse speed across the landscape. Even slow travel can be useful, because you won't be attacked by anything while on a stable horse, and it is a safe time to take a quick break to get a drink, use the restroom, rearrange your inventory, wait out a negative effect like recent revival or disease, etc.
Thanks. I'm working on building up the silver for a horse. May buy a house, need to some place to drop my stuff.
But right now I seem to have an undoable quest. It's an escort mission and every time I get the woman out of the cage she runs and hides in a corner till I am swamped with guards and get killed. Three times in a row, same thing.
Thanks. I'm working on building up the silver for a horse. May buy a house, need to some place to drop my stuff.
But right now I seem to have an undoable quest. It's an escort mission and every time I get the woman out of the cage she runs and hides in a corner till I am swamped with guards and get killed. Three times in a row, same thing.
Thanks. I'm working on building up the silver for a horse. May buy a house, need to some place to drop my stuff.
But right now I seem to have an undoable quest. It's an escort mission and every time I get the woman out of the cage she runs and hides in a corner till I am swamped with guards and get killed. Three times in a row, same thing.
The escort quests drove me up the wall too! Talk about stupid NPCs! I suggest letting them ride for a while in your quest queue until you're at least two levels higher than the quest level; as long as they're still in your queue you can go back to complete them even six or seven levels later. If you can either heal the NPC you're supposed to escort, or make sure you can pull all aggro off the escortee (and survive), you have a shot of getting them out. This is easier if you're overlevelled for it. But I've decided there's one hobbit girl in the Barrow Downs that can just stay stuck, she made me so mad!
Some of these will be swift travel routes (you don't have to ride through all the intervening countryside), and some will be slow travel---you'll be placed on a horse that then rides at regular horse speed across the landscape. Even slow travel can be useful, because you won't be attacked by anything while on a stable horse, and it is a safe time to take a quick break to get a drink, use the restroom, rearrange your inventory, wait out a negative effect like recent revival or disease, etc.
Just to correct this slightly, 'slow travel' is still faster than riding on your own personal horse. So if you are impatient or just have a very long journey ahead, buying the stable ride rather than riding it yourself can save you time.
Originally Posted by manstan
But right now I seem to have an undoable quest. It's an escort mission and every time I get the woman out of the cage she runs and hides in a corner till I am swamped with guards and get killed. Three times in a row, same thing.
I think I know this quest. It's up in the brigand camp in Breeland, correct? You can ask in LFF channel for help (type /lff then your message). Someone can probably sweep by to help you out (I've helped a couple of people who had asked for help for that same quest). Alternatively there is no harm in leaving it for a while and levelling up doing something else. It's always a wonderful feeling coming back stronger and wiping the floor with those who used to kill you as soon as look at you.
Thanks. I'm working on building up the silver for a horse. May buy a house, need to some place to drop my stuff.
But right now I seem to have an undoable quest. It's an escort mission and every time I get the woman out of the cage she runs and hides in a corner till I am swamped with guards and get killed. Three times in a row, same thing.
Sounds to me like it's the Prologue: Chapter 7: The Hideout! Oh, what sarcastically fun times I had my first time escorting that [CENSORED] [CENSORED] of a rabid [CENSORED] known as Sara Oakheart. That's exactly what she does in that private instance; run, hide, cower, and totter along slower than a hobbit in an eating contest. And that's all she does, and if she wasn't so slow before you get to the exit, that poor bloke Toragan [REDACTED FOR SPOILER REASONS].
And trust me. You'll have plenty of room to hate Sara Oakheart in the future.
It's a very good idea to avoid rescuing Lalia in the Barrows or that suicidal sheep in the goblin camp in the Shire. I've come to the conclusion that they both want to die and we should respect their wishes.
To be very blunt and from reading your posts and the very helpful responses given, I just have to say this is not WoW or FFXI where you are handed everything in one package to get you from level 1 to cap asap. You actually have to work through the content to earn the rewards. If you decide to continue to play, I would highly recommend joining an active Kinship that are willing to guide, help and advise.
If you right click on the gold ring off to the right hand side of your screen beside each quest you have acquired, you get a menu that allows you to select from a number of Options. Select the one that allows you to set that quest as your tracker and it should always point you in the right direction to complete your goal.
Collect and save/use the resources you gather to level your chosen craft and NPC the rest. You will have a fair # of items in your bags that are bound to your account like morale and power potions, enhanced xp, repair mitigations, a free horse whistle that summons a mount for 24 hours, 25% skirmish mark gains, food etc that you get from your Blue Gift Box at various levels. You should use these up as soon as you can to free up more space. They are useful and should not be dropped or discarded.
Completion of most deeds award 5 to 10 TP. Others, like gaining Aquaintance > Friend > Ally > Kindred with various Factions will earn you 5, 10, 15 and 20 TP respectively. Quests completed in any given area can also award more than the standard 5 or 10 TP. Regardless, it all adds up.
You will be able to F2p until level 32 or so on 2 characters, but will have a money cap of 2 gold. You might have accumulated enough TP over 2 characters at this time to perhaps purchase at least one expansion pack if it happens to be on sale. Do not unlock your trait slots via the LoTRO Store, they are fairly easy to earn at the lower levels. You can F2p beyond the starter areas, but will be unable to pick up any of the quests offered. You will only be able to follow the Epic line of quests. So, unless you want to buy all your virtues via the LoTRO Store from earning or buying TP, the best advise is to purchase the 3 month offer of V.I.P membership. You just have to pay the $30 + tax up front and you will get 500 free TP each month as a bonus, all the expansion areas except for MoM, Mirkwood and RoI, plus 5 more character slots and the gold cap removed.
I completely understand about not wanting to use a bank account. You can buy TP cards at Game Stops, Walmart and K-mart. Just make sure they carry them. A pre-paid debit card is perhaps the best advise given here and they are accepted by Turbine.
Good luck in your endeavors and welcome to Middle -earth.
"There will be no Dawn for Men" ~ Saruman the White
Yup, that is what I decided to do, put it off till I level up a bit. I should be able to do it once I can drop the guards faster then new ones show up.
Something I discovered when I got to the dwarf kingdom is a lot of low level quests. I can assume I will stumble on these everywhere, is there some list of free quests by level some place?
Right now I am running around Breeland cleaning up lower level quests I missed and would like to do the same else where.
And how do I get the pole to cast? I've read the instructions, got the pole in my action bar, have it equipped, step on to the dock, click it and...... I'm fairly sure I am doing it right, but the guy just wont fish.
You should acquire a new skill - fishing, you just need find it in your character screen and pull to some quickslot.
To start fishing, you click on the skill icon, not on your fishing pole.
Personally i place that skill on some numerical icon - either 1 or 0 - swapping with what real skill i had placed there. After fishing, i jsut swap the other skill back. This makes fishing a lot easier that mouseclicking.
as for list of quests ...
There's are some quest lists, but they tend to change with updates, and latest changes not always get reflected in static lists. A Lorebook in forums is your best bet to actual list, but it had to be learned to use a bit.
Thank you, Turbine, for listening and giving us an opt-out of FE! Good work!
Yup, that is what I decided to do, put it off till I level up a bit. I should be able to do it once I can drop the guards faster then new ones show up.
Something I discovered when I got to the dwarf kingdom is a lot of low level quests. I can assume I will stumble on these everywhere, is there some list of free quests by level some place?
Right now I am running around Breeland cleaning up lower level quests I missed and would like to do the same else where.
All quests/deeds in The Shire, Erid Luin, Bree-land, and the Lone-lands are free. The Shire, Erid Luin, and Bree-land (the Archet/Combe/Stasddle/Chetwood parts) are the low-level starting zones, so each will have lots of low-level quests. They all funnel into Bree-land at some point, so that will have more quests that can take you up into the low 20s, level-wise. Then you can head to the Low-lands for another free zone.
Edit: Also, if you have not already, you might want to have low-level quests show on your mini-map. There is an option to check off (in UI Settings, I think) to display rings for low-level quests on the map so you don't just have to run around hoping to see the grey rings.
And how do I get the pole to cast? I've read the instructions, got the pole in my action bar, have it equipped, step on to the dock, click it and...... I'm fairly sure I am doing it right, but the guy just wont fish.
It isn't the pole you put on the action bar, it is the fishing hobby skill. The pole just needs to be equipped. To get the skill on your bar, open the hobby panel (I think it is one of the links on the bottom of the character panel you can open with 'C') and drag the icon that is next to the fishing level bar over. Then you click once to cast and click again once you get a bite to reel it in.
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Yup, that is what I decided to do, put it off till I level up a bit. I should be able to do it once I can drop the guards faster then new ones show up.
Something I discovered when I got to the dwarf kingdom is a lot of low level quests. I can assume I will stumble on these everywhere, is there some list of free quests by level some place?
Right now I am running around Breeland cleaning up lower level quests I missed and would like to do the same else where.
And how do I get the pole to cast? I've read the instructions, got the pole in my action bar, have it equipped, step on to the dock, click it and...... I'm fairly sure I am doing it right, but the guy just wont fish.
I thought I would toss out a few generic ideas as you are new.
1. Green gear/bling I call death gear - surviving sux. Stay in purple and or teal and you can fight 2 - 3 mobs in the yellow to red range. More xp for time expended. I try to keep my gear within 3 levels of my own. If you are not in a kin and have issues getting gear on the cheap, the best quest gear and bling come from the epic quests.
Colors - White on level
yellow - easy
orange - most competant MMOers can beat these
red - you are seriously gonna be challanged
Purple - you cannot win
If the quest says go kill 10 Orcs, why not get 250xp per orc versus 75 xp per Orc?
blue and green mobs - wasting time....
2. Pay attention to your slayer deeds, no sense in leaving the Barrows if you are 10 wights away from a virtue point and the tp from the deed.
3. Pick up quests for the same area of the map - makes travel and time questing more economical.
4. I try to keep my crafting level for basic and mastery equal to the mats dropped/found for the area I am questing in. I hate going back to places once I leave. YMMV.
I thought I would toss out a few generic ideas as you are new.
1. Green gear/bling I call death gear - surviving sux. Stay in purple and or teal and you can fight 2 - 3 mobs in the yellow to red range. More xp for time expended. I try to keep my gear within 3 levels of my own. If you are not in a kin and have issues getting gear on the cheap, the best quest gear and bling come from the epic quests.
I have never seen green gear in LoTRO. White/grey is bad, it comes from a vendor and doesn't have stats. Yellow is average quest rewards and sometimes mob drops. Purple is crit and very good (unless it's generic skirmish camp stuff - don't waste your marks on it, as it's about the same stats as yello), teal is excellent, at end game there are a very few orange things that are epic. Sometimes you find purple stuff with better stats than teal, so don't assume teal is always the best.
Which gear is green? Serious question, I've never come across any in this game.
I have never seen green gear in LoTRO. White/grey is bad, it comes from a vendor and doesn't have stats. Yellow is average quest rewards and sometimes mob drops. Purple is crit and very good (unless it's generic skirmish camp stuff - don't waste your marks on it, as it's about the same stats as yello), teal is excellent, at end game there are a very few orange things that are epic. Sometimes you find purple stuff with better stats than teal, so don't assume teal is always the best.
Which gear is green? Serious question, I've never come across any in this game.
I think someone had a wow moment or something.
LOTRO is
white/grey (not really usable, vendor trash quality, possibly used below level 5)
yellow (usable from levels 1-20, even crafted at these levels, after that, vendor trash/random junk loot)
purple (standard quality gear for higher level crafting, quests, and so on)
teal (epic gear, the best crafted or the best quested or raided stuff)
orange (epic+ gear, only a few items in this category and all are from raid level content to my knowledge?? or crafted from a raid drop*)
Draegon:
"stack all the morale you want but dont come on here wonderin why you aint hittin hard! "
I have never seen green gear in LoTRO. White/grey is bad, it comes from a vendor and doesn't have stats. Yellow is average quest rewards and sometimes mob drops. Purple is crit and very good (unless it's generic skirmish camp stuff - don't waste your marks on it, as it's about the same stats as yello), teal is excellent, at end game there are a very few orange things that are epic. Sometimes you find purple stuff with better stats than teal, so don't assume teal is always the best.
Which gear is green? Serious question, I've never come across any in this game.
Yellow/green in lotro looks the same to me. The "blue" trait lines (as I have heard soe call them) really do not look all that blue to me either. Regardless, purple and above is the only gear worth wearing. That is the point I am trying to make.
Bought the documents of ownership, 500 silver. Worked it up till I had the 500 silver for a good horse, cool. Went to buy the horse, could I have to buy the skill to ride it with TP. .... ya. Right. Free racing game, the car is free, the tracks are free, the drivers license you need so you can actually race is $. Sounds about right for a f3p game, guess I'll be running everywhere.
Can I get my 500 silver back on the useless documents of owner ship?
Bought the documents of ownership, 500 silver. Worked it up till I had the 500 silver for a good horse, cool. Went to buy the horse, could I have to buy the skill to ride it with TP. .... ya. Right. Free racing game, the car is free, the tracks are free, the drivers license you need so you can actually race is $. Sounds about right for a f3p game, guess I'll be running everywhere.
Can I get my 500 silver back on the useless documents of owner ship?
Unless you never ever plan to get the riding skill and buy a festival horse, the document can be held and used when you are ready. That item does not change from festival to festival like the tokens do.
Bought the documents of ownership, 500 silver. Worked it up till I had the 500 silver for a good horse, cool. Went to buy the horse, could I have to buy the skill to ride it with TP. .... ya. Right. Free racing game, the car is free, the tracks are free, the drivers license you need so you can actually race is $. Sounds about right for a f3p game, guess I'll be running everywhere.
Can I get my 500 silver back on the useless documents of owner ship?
Wait a minute, the Riding Skill is only 95 TP, you should at least be close to having this much if you're up to Level 10 or 15. Check your deed list to see if you're close to finishing up some that grant more TP; you might only need to kill a couple more bears or find one more "flagpole" in an area. Honest, it really wasn't much trouble to get to 95 TP in-game on one character. If you're still under L15, and you started in Bree, then it's probably worthwhile to take a quick stable horse trip over to Thorin's Hall or Gondamon in Ered Luin to find a few more TP-granting quests/deeds if you're short. A straight purchase at the LOTRO Store from your in-game-earned TP requires no bank account info of any sort. In fact, the only way to check your TP level that I've found is to click on the Store link, it's not shown in your wallet.
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Yes I checked, up to 75TP, at 19th level. I've dropped all my other quests concentrating on the body count ones; since they only gave reputation I never thought much of them and never went out of my way to do them.
None the less a popup telling me I couldn't do anything with the ownership documents with out having bought the riding skill would have been appreciated.
I did stop at the quest board and grab all the collection quests, and found how to check to see what to do to get TP.
Now about all these tokens. The one place I have found where I can barter them said I was too high level, have I missed out on being able to do anything with these? Or was I at the wrong shop? I'm doing a search for more info on the tokens now.
I'm running through the dwarf kingdom doing the low level quests there, seems there is a bit of a gap in quests between 15th and 22nd level.
Well I'm not walking now and found out there is a limit to deeds you can turn in in a day. Just more stuff cluttering up my packs lol.
Fishing seems sort of dead in the water, my level is going up but the same old branch for a pole. If the devs need help I've been fishing most of my life and can model and texture; CG is my other hobby lol . If the need some suggestions I could have something wrote up in a few days. I mean my head is already working on it so I might as well right it up lol
Like of coarse better poles mean better fishing; not really but sounds good for the game. Also leveling up in your fishing ability adds new fishing styles; bait, spin-cast, fly. And it not like those lours are free or don't get lost lol And better bait means better fish.
Really my head obsesses on this stuff some times, I could go on for a while lol
Lets see, better fishing line means bringing in bigger fish, could be a hunter skill but more likely and explorer skill/tailoring. Hand weaving your own line with the threads already available in game.
Oh ya, a scroll to make a bait casting net.
Mighty shovel of worm excavation?
Well I'm not walking now and found out there is a limit to deeds you can turn in in a day.
Did you mean Tasks or Class Trait deeds?
By default, you can only turn in 5 tasks per day. Though, you can purchase task limit increases and resets in the store. This limit will reset naturally at 0300EST.
Deeds, which earn you Class traits by using your abilities, are limited as how many times they can be advanced per day. This limit will reset at 0000EST.
Like of coarse better poles mean better fishing; not really but sounds good for the game.
There are better, player made Rods which give you a bonus to your fishing skill; Yew +1, Crit Yew +3, Lebethorn +4, Crit Lebethorn +5.
Well I'm not walking now and found out there is a limit to deeds you can turn in in a day. Just more stuff cluttering up my packs lol.
I think you may be confusing tasks with deeds and missing the class/slayer/explorer deeds. Tasks and class deeds do have daily limits (to how many tasks you can turn in or how many times using a skill counts toward a class deed) but you can finish any number of explorer or slayer deeds. Those deeds give you tp for completion and also often give you virtues that can be slotted at a bard to improve your stats. You can also earn reputation with various factions in the game either through tasks or quests (and sometimes crafting), and each level of reputation (acquaintance, friend, ally, kindred) gives TP. Although it is not up to date, this site has a pretty good list of the deeds you can do and the tp you can earn in the earlier areas.
For tasks, usually I find you get enough task items in a given day of playing to fill you tasks. You can also turn in the same task 5 times, so if I am interested in the rep from tasks, i just keep one or two items I know I can use for tasks that will give me that rep, lock them so I don't vendor them, and vendor all others. That way my bags won't fill up as much.
As for non-vendorable, non-destroyable items, the only ones I can think of are items that give you a quest. They will disappear once you finish the quest, but stay in your inventory until then. Even those you can actually destroy, but it will cancel the quest. Sometimes I am unable to destroy something because the place i have dragged it to on my screen is too close to something else...if i drag it a bit further out, I can destroy the item.
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