So basically the moors on this server is gonna be a zergball of froobs because 95% of the actual freeps who are good and know what they're doing are leaving?? ive been missing the good ainur raid vs creep raid fights, if u guys are gone then pvp on this server is gonna fail. I'll miss you guys, thank you for giving us good fights while you were here.
./quit dwarrow pvp
Nuuuuuuuuu...... now who's going to kill meh........... guess I can get my k/d ratio up, but it was actually fun most of the time when u guys were out :\
The Fungus-Infested-Tumor-Ridden-Royal-Spiderwarg has come online.
Don't worry Glora, you guys have the 400-man warg packs to roam around and keep everything afloat, and if that isn't enough, your trade chat will be spammed to bring in more to share those 1 points of inf trololololol (but to your sentiments, we appreciate the acknowledgement, hopefully a new batch of players will come up and provide the fight, solo, small group, or raid; but again, it is difficult when 40% of the server consists of wargs not really giving other new freep an opportunity to learn pvp >> )
Is Ainur transferring to another server or something? This is the first I've heard about it.
Did their feats in the moors finally force the elves to send them all on boats across into the Undying Lands?
All jokes aside though, I'm really gonna miss you guys. I've got a lot of respect for all the older players from Ainur. Good bunch of standup individuals who never shied from a fight. Getting a KB on Doomsie in particular was always something I felt should have had it's own deed associated with it.
Not sure if there's any hope for the rest of the huntards if Atador leaves as well. Never seen anyone play the class nearly as well as you.
Wherever yall end up, have fun, and thanks for all the great fights!
Come to Riddermark Atador, we can be kinnies again
I miss all y'all (this is Melchrondel/Canuck!) Would be sweet seeing you guys again
Dude Mel!!!! Wasn't expecting to see you here I'm not sure what im gonna be doing as far as Ata, ive been creeping on E and its been a blast. But I dont wanna ditch my beloved hunter If any other creeps/freeps wanna come there we have a tribe (as long as ur not a nub lol).. glora u should join us there.
PS: Thanks Andrag Your sentiments were kind amongst some of the flaming we have gotten saying the server is gonna be the same... Lol.
PVP atleast wont be. I'm sorry people can think what they want but there will never be another Ainur Raid/type group out there for a long time atleast.
Don't worry Glora, you guys have the 400-man warg packs to roam around and keep everything afloat, and if that isn't enough, your trade chat will be spammed to bring in more to share those 1 points of inf trololololol (but to your sentiments, we appreciate the acknowledgement, hopefully a new batch of players will come up and provide the fight, solo, small group, or raid; but again, it is difficult when 40% of the server consists of wargs not really giving other new freep an opportunity to learn pvp >> )
So your telling me not to worry about all the wargs running around ganking my hard earned infamy? I'll be honest I love playing my warg, but i don't want to because whenever i try to 1v1 gank something off the spawn or w/e at least 5 other wargs jump it too, then i feel horrible for being apart of a warg gank. Dont get me worng, i never warg pack, and I hardly group with my warg. I hate players who feel that they need to make a warg pack to be successful in the moors with the most OP creep class ./QQ off
So your telling me not to worry about all the wargs running around ganking my hard earned infamy? I'll be honest I love playing my warg, but i don't want to because whenever i try to 1v1 gank something off the spawn or w/e at least 5 other wargs jump it too, then i feel horrible for being apart of a warg gank. Dont get me worng, i never warg pack, and I hardly group with my warg. I hate players who feel that they need to make a warg pack to be successful in the moors with the most OP creep class ./QQ off
I was being severely sarcastic lol. I think the raid groups of wargs ruins the Moors, more so for new freep AND creep trying to get a feel for pvp .
This news is about Ainur being disbanded is somewhat disconcerting. Not just because the freep population is declining but because the new freeps that do show up will have less leadership there to guide them as they learn the ups and downs of the 'moors. I think that for there to be a healthy PvP environment we need experienced players on freep and creepside who are willing group with noobs, patiently show them the ropes, and contribute to the overall growth of PvP on Dwarrowdelf server. As far as the issue of too many noob wargs ganking every lone freep, I think that derives, once again, from the lack of leadership; as we all know low ranked wargs can't do sh!t by themselves and grouping is one of the only ways in which they can receive infamy and commendations. Personally, I tired of it and that's why I rolled a WL, a little more raid oriented
This news is about Ainur being disbanded is somewhat disconcerting. Not just because the freep population is declining but because the new freeps that do show up will have less leadership there to guide them as they learn the ups and downs of the 'moors. I think that for there to be a healthy PvP environment we need experienced players on freep and creepside who are willing group with noobs, patiently show them the ropes, and contribute to the overall growth of PvP on Dwarrowdelf server. As far as the issue of too many noob wargs ganking every lone freep, I think that derives, once again, from the lack of leadership; as we all know low ranked wargs can't do sh!t by themselves and grouping is one of the only ways in which they can receive infamy and commendations. Personally, I tired of it and that's why I rolled a WL, a little more raid oriented
Glad to see someone not going with the flow of people saying Ainur leaving is nothing and everything is fine. Granted there are others but that number has dropped significantly now. And Ainur did run raids that had open invites, how many other high ranks do that? drakk? karoc? Not calling them out but they dont start raids...
ainur leaving is very sad, going solo into moors they helped me when they could freepside, creepside they provided good fights, freepside will heal. What i worry about is creepside, people thinking that if your rank 6 under you are no use to the group and provide little to no help. Creepside needs to step up more then freepside /QQ off
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ainur leaving is very sad, going solo into moors they helped me when they could freepside, creepside they provided good fights, freepside will heal. What i worry about is creepside, people thinking that if your rank 6 under you are no use to the group and provide little to no help. Creepside needs to step up more then freepside /QQ off
Just how exactly is creepside supposed to be able to "step up" when all the freeps (except for Ainur, who is now gone) want to zerg/rez camp?
When we actually do group up and make a raid, freeps either call in more help (Just happened tonight in fact) so they have overwhelming numbers again, or if they get rolled more than twice they immediately log.
It's hard for creeps to group up and work together when freeps refuse to fight on even terms. There were some good solid fights going on tonight, with a lot of back and forth battling. But once freeps had even numbers they still refused to leave ec. Eventually a few of them logged and the creeps rolled the rest. After that more than half of them left.
And for all your talk about elitism on creepside, most creeps don't want to split their hard-earned infamy with someone who isn't likely to help get a kill. Good infamy/renown gaining fights don't come that often on Dwarrow, and we prefer to maximize as much infamy as possible when they do.
Prove your worth at the lower levels, grind it out, and you'll start being rewarded for your efforts. Whine and QQ about elitists and you're more than likely to ruin any chances you ever had of grouping with them.
The fact of the matter is though, there's more than one side to this coin, and freeps needs to step up just as much, if not more than creeps.
Agreed, it's sickening to watch all the freeps say oh if we get more players they will log, or creeps saying the same thing, suck it up, and pvp like it should be, rvr, or quit pvp in general, im tired of walking out there getting ganked on either said becuase the raid decides to be funny not group or fight like players and run off and leave everyone to die, why doesnt anyone truly help eachother? do it if you really want pvp to be exciting in this server, or not, i dont care, i basically lost a huge amount of rating, which im just pointing out, for the fact today a lot of freeps did the same thing as i said above, let's all just ditch them and use em as bait, rather fighting and trying for a kill. stop the QQ, get a good group, and target and play ur class the way it was ment to be, and the moors would be upto par slightly. that's a huge reason why a lot of ainur's creeps are switching servers, it's better and there's always a fight, not this imma hug everyhting while i take an entire creep onto this one tiny burg, mini so i dont die.
"Long, Thick and Sharp, From the shadows, I'll stick you from behind, deep and bloody, Mmmm the joy of pleasure..."
Agreed, it's sickening to watch all the freeps say oh if we get more players they will log, or creeps saying the same thing, suck it up, and pvp like it should be, rvr, or quit pvp in general, im tired of walking out there getting ganked on either said becuase the raid decides to be funny not group or fight like players and run off and leave everyone to die, why doesnt anyone truly help eachother? do it if you really want pvp to be exciting in this server, or not, i dont care, i basically lost a huge amount of rating, which im just pointing out, for the fact today a lot of freeps did the same thing as i said above, let's all just ditch them and use em as bait, rather fighting and trying for a kill. stop the QQ, get a good group, and target and play ur class the way it was ment to be, and the moors would be upto par slightly. that's a huge reason why a lot of ainur's creeps are switching servers, it's better and there's always a fight, not this imma hug everyhting while i take an entire creep onto this one tiny burg, mini so i dont die.
Couldn't agree more.
If there's one thing that's sickening it's when a few creeps (I don't freep so I can't really use them as an example) decide to just run off and/or not push with the rest of the creeps when the freeps are on the run. Usually ends up getting most of the creeps dead, or costing several people some good infamy.
I also wish people would throw in a helping hand more often. On my warg if I see a creep running away from someone, but looks as though they won't make it, I'll try and pounce the pursuer and give them time to run away. Same goes for defilers and WLs too. You'd be amazed how much a bubble here, a heal there would make a difference between life and death. I can't count the number of times I've died in a fight right as the creeps start to push and watched defilers run right past me. I understand, they want to get their share of infamy too, but if they've got any sense they'll have grouped up, which means they don't need to dps. Sometimes they do stop, but it seems as if more often than not you get totally ignored on the battlefield unless you're grouped with a defiler.
Could just be me, but I've always felt like the most important job of a defiler was to rez, rez, and rez some more. Yet now I feel like I have to IM the defiler if I want to even dream of getting a rez out-of-fellowship.
It's Monster play not PVP. Zone was designed for killing slugs and wargs to sniff each others butts. Freeps get to clear out NPCS and fight 12 year olds playing orcs. It's fun at times on both sides. But the over all experience is blah. Turbine doesn't really care to develop it any further. I suggest trying SWTOR , Terra, or GW2 if you want some actual pvp. Staring at NPCS doesn't really count
So your telling me not to worry about all the wargs running around ganking my hard earned infamy? I'll be honest I love playing my warg, but i don't want to because whenever i try to 1v1 gank something off the spawn or w/e at least 5 other wargs jump it too, then i feel horrible for being apart of a warg gank. Dont get me worng, i never warg pack, and I hardly group with my warg. I hate players who feel that they need to make a warg pack to be successful in the moors with the most OP creep class ./QQ off
I feel exactly the same.
Whenever i try to get a freep solo, one or more wargs suddenly popup.
I love killing freeps 1 on 1 on Hurzu.. But with this many wargs in a pack everywhere it just feels bad.
I have yet to see those wargs going to cm to 1v1 :')
You'll see me more on my minstrel now untill these noob wargs who can only get kills by packing go away.
It's Monster play not PVP. Zone was designed for killing slugs and wargs to sniff each others butts. Freeps get to clear out NPCS and fight 12 year olds playing orcs. It's fun at times on both sides. But the over all experience is blah. Turbine doesn't really care to develop it any further. I suggest trying SWTOR , Terra, or GW2 if you want some actual pvp. Staring at NPCS doesn't really count
I miss Chaco :3
And anywho, there's plenty of good freepers ./pat Karoc
But do continue. I luff to see flame wars about the Moors
I feel exactly the same.
Whenever i try to get a freep solo, one or more wargs suddenly popup.
I love killing freeps 1 on 1 on Hurzu.. But with this many wargs in a pack everywhere it just feels bad.
I have yet to see those wargs going to cm to 1v1 :')
You'll see me more on my minstrel now untill these noob wargs who can only get kills by packing go away.
Glad to finally see the good wargs stepping up against these nub warg packs. I know thats why I left, because like you said, one good warg would jump me, so id be like "Ok cool im gonna try and kill this warg" then 3-4 more come. Pointless pvp.
As far as freeps always having numbers, nothing I can do against that honestly, nothing anybody can do. You can't just tell people "Hey, you cant come out". Another problems lies in the fact that most of your creeps are lying in stealth at a rez or path from the rez in packs and are therefore unreliable to help in the fight. Wargs just wanna gank solo freeps, more infamy. Why would they wanna group for less?
But, now most of the good creeps on dwarro are leaving as well, so it'll be interesting to see how Dwarro turns out now.
Who cares. There was PvMP before Ainur and there will be after. Yes this server does suck with people hugging npc's when they could easily get a kill, but wont because they will most likely die doing it.
Turbine please REMOVE rating from the game. Erase K/D ratio and every other useless stat that people use to justify NPC hugging and generally playing like a coward.
I agree with roudy, the only reason i had a 1900 rating is because it involves more renown to have it and try to maintain it( i try to do this because it's not star hugging but it's still a challenge to keep it up...) the sad part is when this challenge is destroyed because people don't want to give a dang, it kinda stinks, because i dont really benefit ranking much anyways on freep, i just rank and pvp for the heck of it, but either or, rating would be useless imo if they get rid of it good, k/d well no offence i like seeing that i usually get around 12 kills per death, watch it go up and down, its really easy to get a good k/d back up, k/D Itself means nothing, again, k/d should be based in an fps game only.
"Long, Thick and Sharp, From the shadows, I'll stick you from behind, deep and bloody, Mmmm the joy of pleasure..."
rofl! Lavsnack once again proved how open minded you are, maybe some good and skilled guys left but generally moors will be a better place. there is no glory raiding against freevers and unorganized selfish BAMF, tell your jokes elsewhere....
Before you start complaining lets take a walk in their shoes mkay? Firstly theres cooldowns and maybe the fact they want to save it for their group somewhat anoying but understandable, next, theres always the off chance a healer didnt notice you being focused, you die, you wonder why they dont help/rez unless you ask for one. Theres the chance said person just had no idea you were going down. Im not trying to excuse those actions (the person could be purposely withholding help and thats their problem) if you haven't figured out already DD is survival of the fittest with alittle good in it, if you dont like it change servers like ainur, and yes their leaving affects us all, seeing as they had some of the best raid leaders. So dont be so quick to judge others actions and when you do...well hey you stuck around here, deal with it.
rofl! Lavsnack once again proved how open minded you are, maybe some good and skilled guys left but generally moors will be a better place. there is no glory raiding against freevers and unorganized selfish BAMF, tell your jokes elsewhere....
Not sure what you're talking about? Perhaps you have me confused for someone else? I've only posted on this thread once and it wasn't really a joke?
Ya Karoc is good, I miss some of y'all from BR, but still, sadly not many "Good freepers" left
I miss you babydoll. We should chat on fb some time if you still have it? I stay out of the Moors mostly b/c I'm trying to work on my burg with what little time I have to play.
rofl! Lavsnack once again proved how open minded you are, maybe some good and skilled guys left but generally moors will be a better place. there is no glory raiding against freevers and unorganized selfish BAMF, tell your jokes elsewhere....
I don't even know what to say to this... first i guess who are you, then what are you talking about, next wat the heck is BAMF? Atm its just some tiny tribe with a few ppl in it who like the name BAMF, if you don't even know what your talking about don't talk in the first place.
How exactly will it be a better place? Most of the best freeps are leaving, as well as some of the servers best and highest ranked creeps. Tell me how that makes DD moors a better place, because i don't get it
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If any other creeps/freeps wanna come there we have a tribe (as long as ur not a nub lol).. glora u should join us there.
Your sentiments were kind amongst some of the flaming we have gotten saying the server is gonna be the same... Lol.
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