Trying to 1 vs 1 LM spamming 3-4 stacks of Embers ticking for 300+ each
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Trying to 1 vs 1 LM spamming 3-4 stacks of Embers ticking for 300+ each
I'm not in-game at the moment to verify, but if my memory serves, the new Level 74 LM skill allowed the DoT of Burning Embers to stack up to three times. LM LI legacies allow +DoT and +pulses, so it's best to always carry a bucket of water when fighting an LM.
Yes, improved burning embers stacks up to 3 times now. Really is a non-issue though. You should be able to counter it easily in PvP. Just don't let the LM get any inductions off. Also the LM has to face you to hit you with BE. LMs are one of the weaker solo PvP classes right now.
LMs are one of the weaker solo PvP classes right now.
Not really
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
A flayer warg should have no problem at all ripping the flesh out of any LM. Don't come to the class forums to complain about one of the weaker freep pvp classes. Embers hits under 150 a tick (and pulses only once every 5 seconds per dot, and is curable) on flayer wargs with 7 audacity, and a LM shouldn't be getting off this skill much on a flayer warg in the first place with the insane bugged brutal raking claw brute bonus and two interrupt skills. And BTW, brutal raking claw stacks just as many times as burning embers.
yea, the induction + animation on lore master ar a pain atm.
For sure if you use rising dawn versus a rank1 audacity you can stun at first time fo more than 2 sec but you never can't use 2 burning ember with 1,1 sec cast while target still under the stun :P
If you are not the target, sure !You can do a good aoe/spam dot but really ... the dps of a lore master can't be more higth than 600 800 !!!!!
A flayer warg should have no problem at all ripping the flesh out of any LM. Don't come to the class forums to complain about one of the weaker freep pvp classes. Embers hits under 150 a tick (and pulses only once every 5 seconds per dot, and is curable) on flayer wargs with 7 audacity, and a LM shouldn't be getting off this skill much on a flayer warg in the first place with the insane bugged brutal raking claw brute bonus and two interrupt skills. And BTW, brutal raking claw stacks just as many times as burning embers.
Nice try to dodge the issue
The fact is that LMs can stack the Embers faster than they can be cured
Only a THREE second CD
At the very least the CD needs to be increased
As far as Flayer Raking Claw interrupts, its at best at 20% chance to apply using a Brute Bonus limited buff
NICE TRY BUT NO DEAL
Improved Burning Embers
30m Range
Tactical Skill
Induction: 1.5s
Resistance: Tactical
Red-hot embers swirl around the target, causing damage over time and slowing movement. The damage-over-time can now stack up to three times on a single target.
... Fire Damage
... Fire Damage every 5 seconds for 10 seconds.
Slows movement speed by 30%
Duration: 30s
Cost: ... Power
Cooldown: 3s
Last edited by PurebloodWorg; Apr 12 2012 at 07:45 AM.
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
LM LI legacies allow +DoT and +pulses, so it's best to always carry a bucket of water when fighting an LM.
No kidding
The Lore-master's Staff Legacy Burning Embers Initial Damage increases the initial damage caused by this skill by up to 15%.
The Lore-master's Staff Legacy Burning Embers Range increases the range of this skill by up to ten meters.
The Lore-master's Staff Legacy Fire Skills Critical Multiplier increases the critical magnitude of this skill by up to 25%.
The Lore-master's Staff Legacy Tactical Skills Direct Damage increases the initial damage caused by this skill by up to 10%.
The Lore-master's Book Legacy Burning Embers Pulses extends the duration of this skill by up to forty-five seconds (nine extra pulses).
The Lore-master's Book Legacy Fire Damage Over Time increases the damage over time caused by this skill by up to 15%.
The Lore-master's Book Legacy Fire Skills Critical Rating increases the critical rating of this skill by up to 648.
The Lore-master's Book Legacy Target Resistance (Damaging Skills) decreases the resistance to this skill by up to 1580.
The Lore-master's Book Legacy Target Resistance (Fire Skills) decreases the resistance to this skill by up to 1580.
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
The induction is 1,1 sec if you trait right and you have to face the target so if you 1v1 a melee they can run around run and interrupt you almost just by using auto attack due to induction setback... So BE is not that OP.
I had an ember crit 2106 on hit and one of the dots critted 537 on me.
nice...
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
LOL thanks for the thread really was needing the lulz...
If a warg (one of the strongest creep classes in the moors atm) is complaining about ONE skill, which can do a lil bit of damage, of one of the most underpowered freep class in the moors at the moment......I dont want to say it, but you give me no other option.... "learn2play"
And we'll add a few fun facts to support said suggestion.....
The legacies you listed above cannot all be maxed at the same time you know so its pointless to list them like that.....so only some of them will be ranked high enough and not even maxed......
Burning Embers - a 1.1 second (traited) induction skill with a 30 mt range (very few to no LMs will have place for BE range legacy on their staves when much more useful ones are available....)
Has roughly 30 sec - 45 sec DoTs of 300-350 (average LM non-crit) per 5 seconds....that is 2000-3000 damage from DoTs in that amount of time....considering the average morale pool of a mediocre ranked warg, say 11k?
So thats a 3k DoT from 11k spread out over a span of 45 seconds....that is even excluding resists, induction interrupts, misses, excluding the warg tactical mitigation which is far more better now....and most importantly, excluding Audacity.......and also putting in the fact that it is the only induction skill which any LM these days would dare use in close combat.....if that is strong, you really need to fight some Minis and Champs out there....
Oh no the worst pvp freep class has an okish skill!
Rather than focussing on individual skills, start considering the whole. The reason BE hits pretty hard and ticks for quite a while is because LMs are induction based and have to spend time doing things other than dps skills all while standing still.
If a mini or rk had a BE then yes, it would be OP. But due to the massive drawbacks that LMs have right now, coupled with audacity which is a bigger nerf for LMs than any other class from either side I really don't see what the problem is.
I'm not saying LMs are weak, but they are the worst freep class in my opinion (certaintly when solo). Yes at first LMs where the best pvp class, but we have slowly but surely been sliding down the PvP ladder.
Asking for a cooldown increase is ridiculous and never going to happen, the entire class's dps is based around 3 second BE and using other skills around it. BE is never going to get nerfed, deal with it ^^
Lieutenant Belegardo the Veteran, Reaver-Foe, Stalker-Foe, Rank 10 Warden
Oh no the worst pvp freep class has an okish skill!
Rather than focussing on individual skills, start considering the whole. The reason BE hits pretty hard and ticks for quite a while is because LMs are induction based and have to spend time doing things other than dps skills all while standing still.
If a mini or rk had a BE then yes, it would be OP. But due to the massive drawbacks that LMs have right now, coupled with audacity which is a bigger nerf for LMs than any other class from either side I really don't see what the problem is.
I'm not saying LMs are weak, but they are the worst freep class in my opinion (certaintly when solo). Yes at first LMs where the best pvp class, but we have slowly but surely been sliding down the PvP ladder.
Asking for a cooldown increase is ridiculous and never going to happen, the entire class's dps is based around 3 second BE and using other skills around it. BE is never going to get nerfed, deal with it ^^
Worst ? Try one of the best, if the player is skilled
LM is not a facerolling class, but in the right hands is one the deadliest. I solo 90% of the time and Ive had 2 other Wargs jump in my 1 vs 1 and the LM still defeated all of us. The Wargs were low ranked but the point still stands.
Yes while the stacked Embers are ticking, the "other things" the LM is free to focus on like Improved Staff Strikes for 1K+, Sticky Gourds, spamming an arsenal of CC damage debuffs, while both the LM and the Pet are free to attack with full stun immunity.
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Interesting how all the rank 8 LMs say "we are weak" but the R12 LM says " Not really"
I wonder who knows more what they are talking about?
Last edited by PurebloodWorg; Apr 12 2012 at 11:31 AM.
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Worst ? Try one of the best, if the player is skilled
LM is not a facerolling class, but in the right hands is one the deadliest. I solo 90% of the time and Ive had 2 other Wargs jump in my 1 vs 1 and the LM still defeated all of us. The Wargs were low ranked but the point still stands.
Yes while the stacked Embers are ticking, the "other things" the LM is free to focus on like Improved Staff Strikes for 1K+, Sticky Gourds, spamming an arsenal of CC damage debuffs, while both the LM and the Pet are free to attack with full stun immunity.
The point is (and the sad truth) more and more players are using store brands, trackers, pots etc. All of which impact more on the LM style of play than other classes. They remove the ability to control fights, and reduce the class to hoping for crits and hoping the opponent is bad.
In freep spars I can count my losses on LM on one hand over 5 years (in serious spars). This is because things actually work and thus skill and cooldown use etc is rewarded. In the moors right now I can kill creeps as well as the next LM, but lets face it, skill levels have been lowered on the class. If I crit a couple of times I generally win, if I don't I generally lose.
It wasn't too bad before audacity, but it was starting to emerge as a problem for the class. Audacity isn't the final nail in the coffin, because LMs are still capable of PvPing competitvely, it's just that the soul of the class isn't viable out in the moors anymore.
If you can't beat an LM 3 on 1 with 3 wargs then I'm not sure what to say. I can win with those odds on my Warden on occasion but rarely if ever on LM.
Lieutenant Belegardo the Veteran, Reaver-Foe, Stalker-Foe, Rank 10 Warden
The point is (and the sad truth) more and more players are using store brands, trackers, pots etc. All of which impact more on the LM style of play than other classes. They remove the ability to control fights, and reduce the class to hoping for crits and hoping the opponent is bad.
In freep spars I can count my losses on LM on one hand over 5 years (in serious spars). This is because things actually work and thus skill and cooldown use etc is rewarded. In the moors right now I can kill creeps as well as the next LM, but lets face it, skill levels have been lowered on the class. If I crit a couple of times I generally win, if I don't I generally lose.
It wasn't too bad before audacity, but it was starting to emerge as a problem for the class. Audacity isn't the final nail in the coffin, because LMs are still capable of PvPing competitvely, it's just that the soul of the class isn't viable out in the moors anymore.
If you can't beat an LM 3 on 1 with 3 wargs then I'm not sure what to say. I can win with those odds on my Warden on occasion but rarely if ever on LM.
I see your point about Store Brands (I dont use them) but I think the LM still has the advantage vs a Warg because the LM cannot be stunned with Sign protection. Im assuming that you are referring to the CC reduction benefit of Audacity, which hurts all CC classes , not just LMs. Wargs rely heavily on stuns/knockdowns especially versus a skilled Freep
As far as the 3 vs 1, I lost the to the LM and the other 2 Wargs attemped to KB him at the end of our fight. I was not pleased with the outcome. Those two players are a disgrace to the Warg family.
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Worst ? Try one of the best, if the player is skilled
LM is not a facerolling class, but in the right hands is one the deadliest.
Agreed. So what you're saying is you don't want classes that reward players who are skilled, instead of certain freep classes that are facerollers? You are against facerollers and classes that reward skill?
To play the LM right in the Moors takes a lot of skill. It is true that stun immunity makes us immune to stuns, but by default it is a 30 second cooldown. With the proper traits one can bring it to 90 seconds. Most LM's do not stop every so often to reapply the stun dot because they forget or are lazy, and that is the best time to get them.
As far as defeating an LM goes, it is simple. Close to melee range. Do not let go. Hit him with everything you have, as fast as you can. A fear is your best defense against him. Fear him and all he can do is stand there and watch you tear him to shreds. Do not let him go. And keep kiting around him. Again, do not let him go and never stop hitting him. Some of his skills (burning embers included) are directional. So if you get behind him his BE will be cancelled.
If it is any consolation, wargs are my most feared class to fight in the moors with my LM. So terrified that I make it a point to stop my horse every 50 seconds to reapply the stun dot, which is a pain. It usually takes every cooldown for me to have a chance to survive.
This far into the game rank is also a sign of persistence as well as skill. You can rank in the middle of a raid chatting tom friends so leave rank aside.
Apart from that its further evidence that PvP is pretty much broken and attracts the same sort of argument that plaguews the Apple vs Android fraternity:-)
I think maybe you just need to accept the fact that some of the better LMs are going to be able to beat you 1v1, instead of complaining about one of our skills like it's the most OP skill ever to exist in the game. Can BE be pretty awesome? Sure, if the target of the skill has poor mits, and lets the LM get it off 3 times in the first place. But the fact is that you can counter it. When you're dealing with skilled players vs skilled players class will matter less. You can always find ways to counter each other and minimize certain benefits your opponent can gain. Just my two cents, go ahead and keep whining.
I think maybe you just need to accept the fact that some of the better LMs are going to be able to beat you 1v1, instead of complaining about one of our skills like it's the most OP skill ever to exist in the game. Can BE be pretty awesome? Sure, if the target of the skill has poor mits, and lets the LM get it off 3 times in the first place. But the fact is that you can counter it. When you're dealing with skilled players vs skilled players class will matter less. You can always find ways to counter each other and minimize certain benefits your opponent can gain. Just my two cents, go ahead and keep whining.
I can handle losing 1 vs 1 to any class and do all the time (16K+ deaths)
What I do not approve of is any class that can dominate a 1 vs 1 without the other player having any chance
LMs debuffing my damage to that of a level 50 Warg and then stacking 3-4 Burning Embers...something has got to go
High DPS + High -Damage Debuff = OP
Same as Champs or Minis who have High DPS + High Healing/Shielding = OP
As a Warg I have to trade off damage for armor (Shadow vs Flayer)
Freeps need to all have the same trade off
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
I can handle losing 1 vs 1 to any class and do all the time (16K+ deaths)
What I do not approve of is any class that can dominate a 1 vs 1 without the other player having any chance
LMs debuffing my damage to that of a level 50 Warg and then stacking 3-4 Burning Embers...something has got to go
High DPS + High -Damage Debuff = OP
Same as Champs or Minis who have High DPS + High Healing/Shielding = OP
As a Warg I have to trade off damage for armor (Shadow vs Flayer)
Freeps need to all have the same trade off
LMs are squishy, have relatively long inductions that are easily interrupted, and the skill in in question requires the LM to face their target for it to go off. We also have little in the way of an escape skill compared to many other classes. There are trade offs that LMs face too. Burning Embers can help make up for some of the countless interrupted/set back inductions that otherwise can cripple the LM. I know of many wargs who don't have trouble with LMs. Maybe the good ones give them a good fight, but in general I would say LMs are not your biggest threat right now. But hey, I'm not rank 12, what do I know?
LMs are squishy, have relatively long inductions that are easily interrupted, and the skill in in question requires the LM to face their target for it to go off. We also have little in the way of an escape skill compared to many other classes. There are trade offs that LMs face too. Burning Embers can help make up for some of the countless interrupted/set back inductions that otherwise can cripple the LM. I know of many wargs who don't have trouble with LMs. Maybe the good ones give them a good fight, but in general I would say LMs are not your biggest threat right now. But hey, I'm not rank 12, what do I know?
-Wargs also have to face their opponent for every attack
-LMs have Wisdom + Manheal
-Im not concerned about low ranked, unexperienced, or Zergling LMs . I am concerned about the high ranking, battle-experienced, soloing LMs who know what they are doing.
-Gandalf was a LM so clearly a well-played LM is a threat to everyone
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
-Wargs also have to face their opponent for every attack
-LMs have Wisdom + Manheal
-Im not concerned about low ranked, unexperienced, or Zergling LMs . I am concerned about the high ranking, battle-experienced, soloing LMs who know what they are doing.
-Gandalf was a LM so clearly a well-played LM is a threat to everyone
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Not all LMs are men.
If you play your class well, a good LM should be a challenge, but not even close to unbeatable.
Gandalf was a wizard, which is not the same as a LM.
The fact is that LMs can stack the Embers faster than they can be cured
Only a THREE second CD
At the very least the CD needs to be increased
As far as Flayer Raking Claw interrupts, its at best at 20% chance to apply using a Brute Bonus limited buff
NICE TRY BUT NO DEAL
Improved Burning Embers
30m Range
Tactical Skill
Induction: 1.5s
Resistance: Tactical
Red-hot embers swirl around the target, causing damage over time and slowing movement. The damage-over-time can now stack up to three times on a single target.
... Fire Damage
... Fire Damage every 5 seconds for 10 seconds.
Slows movement speed by 30%
Duration: 30s
Cost: ... Power
Cooldown: 3s
"As far as Flayer Raking Claw interrupts, its at best at 20% chance to apply using a Brute Bonus limited buff."
Oh god... Save me. You play a warg and don't know that it is a 100% chance to apply? At best a 20% chance? It is supposed to be a 25% with brute but it is bugged at 100%, just like many other warg mechanics that are bugged and extremely overpowered.
If you are SERIOUSLY complaining about LM dps then you are an absolute ezmoder and obviously have no skill (no offense but lmfao...) and don't want to pvp for a challenge, you want to have ezmode wins. You want burning embers to have an increased cd ("at the very least") LOL? I'm 99.9% sure you've never played this class. Sounds like someone got killed by a fire dot and is mad. Want some complaints? How about bestial claws and maul having a 35% crit chance hitting for 1k+ per hit on light/meds and being unable to be bped? Nah, that's balanced. And you'll keep going to the monster play forums to ask for more buffs to an already overpowered class. AoE warg rez? Lol? I'm not dodging any issue. I'm jumping right on top of it. Wargs are ridiculous. I like how you don't mention the fact that a flayer warg can stack 3 claw bleeds, savage wound, and maul, adding up to 5 bleeds that are INCURABLE (the LM one is curable and has an induction yet you are complaining about it!) and has endless interrupts which can easily counter any skill a LM has.
Worst ? Try one of the best, if the player is skilled
LM is not a facerolling class, but in the right hands is one the deadliest. I solo 90% of the time and Ive had 2 other Wargs jump in my 1 vs 1 and the LM still defeated all of us. The Wargs were low ranked but the point still stands.
Yes while the stacked Embers are ticking, the "other things" the LM is free to focus on like Improved Staff Strikes for 1K+, Sticky Gourds, spamming an arsenal of CC damage debuffs, while both the LM and the Pet are free to attack with full stun immunity.
The point is, if you and your fellows all suck and you're fighting a good player, you can lose? I see no problem with that, I've won 3v1s all the time on my creeps. Actually I do see a problem with that. I have no clue how the LM even got off a skill with 3 wargs on him. Was your face still rolling on your keyboard from the last LM you killed?
My Warg shall not rest until the staff of every Lore Master is shattered into dust
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
"As far as Flayer Raking Claw interrupts, its at best at 20% chance to apply using a Brute Bonus limited buff."
Oh god... Save me. You play a warg and don't know that it is a 100% chance to apply? At best a 20% chance? It is supposed to be a 25% with brute but it is bugged at 100%, just like many other warg mechanics that are bugged and extremely overpowered.
If you are SERIOUSLY complaining about LM dps then you are an absolute ezmoder and obviously have no skill (no offense but lmfao...) and don't want to pvp for a challenge, you want to have ezmode wins. You want burning embers to have an increased cd ("at the very least") LOL? I'm 99.9% sure you've never played this class. Sounds like someone got killed by a fire dot and is mad. Want some complaints? How about bestial claws and maul having a 35% crit chance hitting for 1k+ per hit on light/meds and being unable to be bped? Nah, that's balanced. And you'll keep going to the monster play forums to ask for more buffs to an already overpowered class. AoE warg rez? Lol? I'm not dodging any issue. I'm jumping right on top of it. Wargs are ridiculous. I like how you don't mention the fact that a flayer warg can stack 3 claw bleeds, savage wound, and maul, adding up to 5 bleeds that are INCURABLE (the LM one is curable and has an induction yet you are complaining about it!) and has endless interrupts which can easily counter any skill a LM has.
So in protest of Wargs being "ridiculously OP"....you have a 5-Star Warg ?
All those bleeds mean nothing if the LM has debuffed your damage to that of a level 40 Warg
5 stacks of Warg Dots ticking for 37 damage.....ridiculous lol ?
Ridiculous is 4 stacks of Embers ticking for 370 each
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
So in protest of Wargs being "ridiculously OP"....you have a 5-Star Warg ?
All those bleeds mean nothing if the LM has debuffed your damage to that of a level 40 Warg
5 stacks of Warg Dots ticking for 37 damage.....ridiculous lol ?
Ridiculous is 4 stacks of Embers ticking for 370 each
Instead of posting all of these stupid not-funny pictures, Screenshot the embers damage unbuffed from the game or BS broski. Rofl! My TOOLTIP is barely more than 370 at a max hit, and embers stacks only 3 times, not 4. You're just a ridiculous failtroll, honestly. I don't even think you're serious. You DO NOT get hit for even half what you are saying embers hits.
The damage went from 50 to 40 in a few of your posts har har .
Someone is running out of trolling ideas ?
Funniest thing is , you complain about Flayer not being "good enough" vs LMs , when it's so much faster to kill them in Shadow stance .
Guess that's too simplistic for someone as cool as you , am I right ?
Apparently a -30% base damage debuff (about 20% actual damage) lowers a wargs damage to a level lower than wargs have ever been. Lmao there's no point feeding a troll, I don't know why I do it. Just trying to make sure nobody actually believes that LMs are even close to overpowered.
The evidence of the first two pages would suggest LM's are rather easy. Long BE DoT is one of our few advantages.
-Synlas
Is there even any point in discussing this any longer?.....the responses of the majority of creeps in the thread mentioned above sums it up pretty well.....
...the responses of the majority of creeps in the thread mentioned above sums it up pretty well.....
What Creeps?
All I see are rank 8 (or less) LMs saying "We are weak leave us alone"
The only honest player is the R12 LM
And I will post a combat log soon
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
LM's are good, LM's do damage and they are perfect as they are... If they get even more nerfs I will get sad...
LM = CC
EM = Deminishing returns, Audacity, POT's, Get out/Immune of stun/daze/root skills, store POT's.
If you wan't DPS roll a hunter, If you wan't DPS and survival roll Minstrell, burg or champ, If you wan't DPS or HoT and Survival roll an RK, if you wan't Survival roll a Guardian or Warden... If you wan't decen't AoE DPS (Damage Per Second) roll an LM... What do you wanna play?
While an LM bakes his/her BE a champ has already chingchingeddead the LM's target... i.e: During this chingching the champion made total of 12k damage... And by that time the LM's(Above everage) BE hit's for the second time and does a crit of 2,5k damage. The numbers a fictonal and no fact...
But that's how it feels sometimes playing an LM.
I am proud of my LM in EM, but a DPS nerf would render her rather useless... The point isn't that a skilled LM is able to solo a warg... The point is, if no LM can solo anything .... then the LM is useless.. if the LM can solo everything, then it needs a nerf... I don't know if I am a skilled LM player... But I know I can play it and I loose most of my spars... Do my LM need a nerf? No thanks. Do my LM need improvement's? Would be fun but I don't need it so No thanks, just fix some bugs and I am happy.
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Originally Posted by PurebloodWorg
What Creeps?
Originally Posted by PurebloodWorg
All I see are rank 8 (or less) LMs saying "We are weak leave us alone"
The only honest player is the R12 LM
And I will post a combat log soon
Please post a combat log against a Minstrell, Champ, Hunter, Burglar... Even spar Wargs, reaver and so on... Post your combat log and take account to DPS.
And don't compare only the hardest DPS LM on your server.
I am not r12 but I am not lying. I have my opinion and I don't wan't a BE nerf... But I don't say LM's are weak but they don't need another nerf in EM.
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so its pointless to list them like that.....so only some of them will be ranked high enough and not even maxed......
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