Turbine does not know what balance is, there never has been balance in the game..
SoA - LM could chainstun 2-3 targets
MoM - Hunters were OP ?
SoM - There was fair balance, but most depended on gear - I think the most OP class was runekeeper back then (I'm speaking pre OD)
RoI - Freeps were OP
RoR - I can't tell ;p
little bit late but: Nokor and Woromis r best RKs now, anyway,... i learned so many things from Nokor, his playstyle etc... best LM is Joeman and minstrel Skilrien... but he is now playing PvE.... im not very interested in other classes, so sorry, idk who is best in other
Being mentioned as a good RK, awesome! Being mentioned along with Woromis as a good RK, meh!
Freeps were OP, now they are anything but. Champs, Minstrels and LMs are now balanced, all other classes are just useless in a 1v1. In a group I think it is about equal, the only problem is that most freeps aren't geared for the occasion making most creeps miles better than any other freep. Nor do freeps use all their skills, primarily due to the quantity where as on creep there are hardly half the skills and you can easily be good at your class.
Which means: awful creep > awful freep.
Combine this with an almost constant higher number of creeps, a consistent need to use keeps for protection and a gigantic (even more so for freeps) lag issue. Then you have a creep side that when grouped cannot be beaten 95% of the time.
little bit late but: Nokor and Woromis r best RKs now, anyway,... i learned so many things from Nokor, his playstyle etc... best LM is Joeman and minstrel Skilrien... but he is now playing PvE.... im not very interested in other classes, so sorry, idk who is best in other
Only want to nominate one class. Burglars. There is only one good Burg on this server, Mere. Others burgs are a total joke. Athryl, Aruaka etc have mastered the art of losing, getting to about 1k (after 2 HIPS and a TnG, and don't forget KO) then kiting whilst healing, and still losing 9/10s. It's hilarious to watch. Then there are the gankers, ranging from r12 to r9 Supersaiyan and friends, also probably want to learn your class. It then stems down and down to the point where you get to people like Gimbus, get to about 1k, HIPS, and don't come back.
Only want to nominate one class. Burglars. There is only one good Burg on this server, Mere. Others burgs are a total joke. Athryl, Aruaka etc have mastered the art of losing, getting to about 1k (after 2 HIPS and a TnG, and don't forget KO) then kiting whilst healing, and still losing 9/10s. It's hilarious to watch. Then there are the gankers, ranging from r12 to r9 Supersaiyan and friends, also probably want to learn your class. It then stems down and down to the point where you get to people like Gimbus, get to about 1k, HIPS, and don't come back.
To the Burgs of Snowbourn, y'all rock.
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Only want to nominate one class. Burglars. There is only one good Burg on this server, Mere. Others burgs are a total joke. Athryl, Aruaka etc have mastered the art of losing, getting to about 1k (after 2 HIPS and a TnG, and don't forget KO) then kiting whilst healing, and still losing 9/10s. It's hilarious to watch. Then there are the gankers, ranging from r12 to r9 Supersaiyan and friends, also probably want to learn your class. It then stems down and down to the point where you get to people like Gimbus, get to about 1k, HIPS, and don't come back.
To the Burgs of Snowbourn, y'all rock.
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thats a bit exaggerated but one thing is true mere is a freaken strong one :-) at least i killed him 2 times from 4 or 5 duells but very close and i used nearly all skills with my spider.
Only want to nominate one class. Burglars. There is only one good Burg on this server, Mere. Others burgs are a total joke. Athryl, Aruaka etc have mastered the art of losing, getting to about 1k (after 2 HIPS and a TnG, and don't forget KO) then kiting whilst healing, and still losing 9/10s. It's hilarious to watch. Then there are the gankers, ranging from r12 to r9 Supersaiyan and friends, also probably want to learn your class. It then stems down and down to the point where you get to people like Gimbus, get to about 1k, HIPS, and don't come back.
To the Burgs of Snowbourn, y'all rock.
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Turbine does not know what balance is, there never has been balance in the game..
SoA - LM could chainstun 2-3 targets
MoM - Hunters were OP ?
SoM - There was fair balance, but most depended on gear - I think the most OP class was runekeeper back then (I'm speaking pre OD)
RoI - Freeps were OP
RoR - I can't tell ;p
SoA - Lm could chainstun 2-3 targets. Really? While it's true they could do this for some time, it wasn't the case for whole SoA period.
That's kind of a joke view of balance. You know SoA had many changes, same with MoM. :>
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Turbine does not know what balance is, there never has been balance in the game..
SoA - LM could chainstun 2-3 targets
MoM - Hunters were OP ?
SoM - There was fair balance, but most depended on gear - I think the most OP class was runekeeper back then (I'm speaking pre OD)
RoI - Freeps were OP
RoR - I can't tell ;p
*SoM: You forgot the guards and burgs now didnt you ?
*RoR: Turbine now made it crystal clear that they dont give a flying **** about ballance. They introduced gamebreaking buffs obtained through pve, so they wont have to care about ballance anymore. Whoever got the buffs got the upper hand.
Originally Posted by Nokor
Freeps were OP, now they are anything but. Champs, Minstrels and LMs are now balanced, all other classes are just useless in a 1v1. In a group I think it is about equal, the only problem is that most freeps aren't geared for the occasion making most creeps miles better than any other freep. Nor do freeps use all their skills, primarily due to the quantity where as on creep there are hardly half the skills and you can easily be good at your class.
Which means: awful creep > awful freep.
Combine this with an almost constant higher number of creeps, a consistent need to use keeps for protection and a gigantic (even more so for freeps) lag issue. Then you have a creep side that when grouped cannot be beaten 95% of the time.
You forgot wardens, they are still able to kill every creep class except flies defilers, and all that in dps traits. Overall i agree about the general state of sides now and then.
*RoR: Turbine now made it crystal clear that they dont give a flying **** about ballance. They introduced gamebreaking buffs obtained through pve, so they wont have to care about ballance anymore. Whoever got the buffs got the upper hand.
Agreed. Plus, creeps get like 90% more renown because they always have DoF :'(
You forgot wardens, they are still able to kill every creep class except flies defilers, and all that in dps traits. Overall i agree about the general state of sides now and then.
High ranked spiders are a pain.
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Feailuve ~Champion~
Now for Wrath, now for Ruin! And the Red Dawn!
SoA - Lm could chainstun 2-3 targets. Really? While it's true they could do this for some time, it wasn't the case for whole SoA period.
That's kind of a joke view of balance. You know SoA had many changes, same with MoM. :>
Since my statement made some confusion, I basically meant to show some examples in every expansion where there was imbalance, and the SoA chainstun was the only imbalance I could get on my mind, I know more classes have been OP in expansions, but the most clear examples are the ones I gave . Yes Burg and Guardians were strong in SoM, but Rune-keepers could have a decent build + oneshot / get a 6k hit at least on creeps, hence making them OP.
I should have mentioned that those were plain examples, not the full view of balance within these expansions.
And at mister GrandCru; why are you hiding Minamata?
I just wanna say i stopped sparring you cause the spider had no chance against Mins and Rune-Keeper nothing personal...i appreciate you think i'm the best spider on this server so ty
Boys. lol I see in these lists people who have never played in 2012. or played little. In 2012 I attended often the 1 vs 1 and lot in action. Speaking from my own experience I can say with certainty. I wrought all creep ranked on this server. more 'than one occasion. the only one that I did not beat was muzzard to rank 15. at rank 14 instead we played a lot.
Morgholiant spider did not want more 'sparred because I knocked him forever (Morgholiant is my kinship friend i know him and he know me) i dont wanna flaming ... and hes the best spider on the server lol. and any creep you surely remember addressed to me at least once ... I do not want to appear in this vote because I do not care honestly. But at least candidates for all the people who played in 2012 than those who played in 2008 at the time of moria ... lol
Well, that's your opinion
I've seen loads of spiders nuking rks at good ta, maybe you should try a different spider. Or maybe they should try a different RK ahahah
For this reason I also saw champion rank 11 bombarded by rank10 rk at 1 Vs 1 area or reaver perpetually defeated, but do not want to name names ... But that's not the point. Appear in these award names of people who have almost never played in 2012. It does not appear the names of people who were really good at pvp in all this year.
Many of the people named here are truly the strongest of the server. (I speak for my class rk People like Nokor, Salahad) I got to spar and I can say that they deserve it. but other people who have almost never played, what are they doing in the award of 2012 ?
Bug, maybe you're right in SOME CASES. but many votes are real and suitables. Indeed, Nokor and Salahad were voted and this is real, they are the bests RKs.
Boys. lol I see in these lists people who have never played in 2012. or played little. In 2012 I attended often the 1 vs 1 and lot in action. Speaking from my own experience I can say with certainty. I wrought all creep ranked on this server. more 'than one occasion. the only one that I did not beat was muzzard to rank 15. at rank 14 instead we played a lot.
Morgholiant spider did not want more 'sparred because I knocked him forever (Morgholiant is my kinship friend i know him and he know me) i dont wanna flaming ... and hes the best spider on the server lol. and any creep you surely remember addressed to me at least once ... I do not want to appear in this vote because I do not care honestly. But at least candidates for all the people who played in 2012 than those who played in 2008 at the time of moria ... lol
IMHO.
Well if you look at the people raging on Burglars, only voting Mere.. When he just transfered he lost most 1v1s still and people vote on him because he has played from Oct-Dec at his best, while other burglars played a lot in the earlier months; also 2012, never voted on.
So even though someone hasn't played much that year, or did not play in the end (me for example), people forget about those players and nominate more active people, rather than looking into the new year. Nokor has been very active in 2012 though, so there is no reason to rage at him. I agree, Salahad hasn't been playing much, but that gives not a reason not to vote on him.
Bug, maybe you're right in SOME CASES. but many votes are real and suitables. Indeed, Nokor and Salahad were voted and this is real, they are the bests RKs.
Argelia you read what I wrote more about?
I completely agree on Nokor and Salahad because I know my class and I think it may deserve the place of the best!
Originally Posted by Tolgaring
Well if you look at the people raging on Burglars, only voting Mere.. When he just transfered he lost most 1v1s still and people vote on him because he has played from Oct-Dec at his best, while other burglars played a lot in the earlier months; also 2012, never voted on.
So even though someone hasn't played much that year, or did not play in the end (me for example), people forget about those players and nominate more active people, rather than looking into the new year. Nokor has been very active in 2012 though, so there is no reason to rage at him. I agree, Salahad hasn't been playing much, but that gives not a reason not to vote on him.
Tolgarin agree on many points. Here everyone specifically know their class and know who deserves the title or not. I can say little because of the burglar not familiar with the class.
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But the point remains another. Some people have hardly ever played and should be in their own conscience to know that are missing anything with the votes of the year 2012.
Reaver: Gushukg.. Flash.. pfff just joking his ego is bigger than his skills
Weaver: none
Blackarrow: none
Warleader: there was one r7 starting on Kajsomething
Defiler: none
Warg: Bloodtail (big ego)
Best creep ever: Minamata
Freeps:
Burglar: NONE! (for sure not Trollgaring xD anyway you make my day everyday when i see your posts)
Warden: Liliam (ego getting bigger though), Iyvan
Champion: Muzardd.. rest are just a bunch of nubs
Hunter: Don't even ask. (lmao when people choose leganthir)
Rune-keeper: Galania... hahahahahahaha xDDD (that was a joke ofc..)
Captain: Thorongolilion if I'm right with name (no other.. I like Ustat's opnes though)
Guardian: they are too op or too nerfed I won't choose
Minstrel: This class is a joke
Lore-master: none (this class is a joke, specialy after RoR)
Only want to nominate one class. Burglars. There is only one good Burg on this server, Mere. Others burgs are a total joke. Athryl, Aruaka etc have mastered the art of losing, getting to about 1k (after 2 HIPS and a TnG, and don't forget KO) then kiting whilst healing, and still losing 9/10s. It's hilarious to watch. Then there are the gankers, ranging from r12 to r9 Supersaiyan and friends, also probably want to learn your class. It then stems down and down to the point where you get to people like Gimbus, get to about 1k, HIPS, and don't come back.
To the Burgs of Snowbourn, y'all rock.
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if u want to whine about my game play the first thing u should do is ask.. i USED tng because i WAS without audacity and WAS the only way for do something.. and also with tng u won many times.. i've never insulted ur gameplay on forum..and I would be grateful if you would do the same..the only thing you can't say is that I don't go for fair 1vs1 .. and many of these players can confirm it.. and for last thing this post is for players of 2012 not 2013 then don't speak about me if u never saw me in pre-RoR.
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Well, guess that champ is not me Beating rks in a spar on champ is easy as collecting candies. But if you want to try, let's arrange some, might be fun.
Originally Posted by Nokor
I beat you, if you remember. It was in RoI though, before you went all zergy, ragey.
I also like Nokor. I beat Navahr 75 lv inside the Etten and out of the etten. Other Navhar beat me. not rule it out. we played. but if we talk about your river Navhar I always won. But it does not matter. The point remains another. Here are nominated players who did not play in 2012 ...
Not sure he was before transferring from Snowbourn to Evernight couple of years ago (as well as another God Like™).
Surely L2P there improved their ''skills''. And I, if not all of us, should be thankful that you, God Like™, transferred (back) here to spare us 20€.
P.S. : Please note that logging an ''anon.'' warg to gank someone you ''spared'', and lost against, because he did not play the way you wanted him to play, is nothing new here on Snowbourn.
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Well... To be honest... We all know only half of us will vote for the ones that are truly good, the other half will just vote for the ones they know well and are not bad. This thread is not to be taken too seriously. Some of them, like Mere, are just good, no doubt. I was having some trouble with 5 creeps, took 1 down and died. Mere took another low morale warg and a reaver down for me, where every other buglar would just have watched and walked away. Of course, he HiPSed eventually but... I respect that. For champs, there are several good champs, but Muzz his champ is used the best way, beyond any doubt. We must all agree that Nokor is the best RK. Salahad? Whats a Salahad? Like I said, some are obvious, others classes shoudnt even be awarded.
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In and out?Hmmm I think you've won one spar on hundreads and it's so fun to read your posts now. Dammit you sounds like Zrinko. About the 2012 thing, these topics have always been like that, full with nostalgy. Some classes have had great masters in the past and now that they're gone there's just such an empy space that might be hard to fill it with others. Take as example Etheldar and warg or hunter. He left a space I don't think anybody filled. Same with Thormantir and even Askana maybe.
Navhar what is the problem? I spar against your champ. sometimes I win sometimes you win. I also won thormantir against both the tank and against his wl. Some people are very good as the past etheldar (bloodtail) etc.. I was able to win him the 1 vs 1, so many times he won. It 's normal there is a recycling of players coming and recycling of players who leave. but we can not always remain anchored to the past. the point remains the same. Here are some names of nominated players who did not play in 2012.
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. Yes Burg and Guardians were strong in SoM, but Rune-keepers could have a decent build + oneshot / get a 6k hit at least on creeps, hence making them OP.
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