5-10sec should be enough for the guardian ... let him run up to the boss and follow him, let him turn the boss around and let him yell a bit ... now enter blender-mode
I agree with your strategy, but disagree with the timing of how long to leave before attacking. I run in behind the tank, never hit the mobs/boss first, once the tank has got the mobs turned round then I let rip. Good guards shouldn't rely on the initial aggro being enough, and will be building more in the time that you're starting your rotation, so 1-2 seconds should be enough before starting in on the mobs.
I give wardens a bit longer due to the differences in tanking style, but don't know if that's still the case, especially given that they can now do their pre-attack dance gambit preparations, and I've not really run with a top-level, well-geared warden since U6. Should I still hold off a little bit longer on wardens?
if you get aggro (it helps showing your targets target) use ebbing ire on the tank and slow down a bit again.
I guess while you are leveling, Ebbing can be used as a reactive aggro dump. Once you get to the point where you are really looking at legacies on your rune and if you plan to do a lot of group content, you will want to get Ebbing Ire on your rune and max it out. As a champ, your ability to dump some aggro on the tank every 60 seconds will allow your fellowship/raid to push the DPS without worrying about the tank losing aggro.
A well-geared and skilled tank at level cap should always be able to keep aggro off a champion who is not using glory/rising ire etc., unless the particular fight has some mechanic that messes with aggro itself, or increases damage dealt by a lot. If he does let aggro slip, using ebbing ire on him once should be enough to lose aggro for the rest of the fight.
With a less skilled tank, it may be more of an issue, but keeping aggro as a guardian is not complicated by any means, and I've actually found good wardens to be even harder to outaggro.
You are quite precise with your head movements when rolling your face on your keyboard, I see
i take pride in my Ears:Cheeks:Nose ratio and it being rather precise when it comes to my skill bar.
ok so let wardens get aggro for roughly 10-15 seconds? and dont let guard's get aggro and then get mad at the guard for not holding aggro and the healers for not healing me? ok got it i am set for 75, Orthanc you better watch out for I Griminsborith shall have my revenge! with an axe, yesss an axe muahahahahaha also, should I use two handed axe of doomzorz or dual wielded axe of pownage? i like to do both but what would pull aggro better? lots of low devs or lots of slow high devs? you know what ill just do both