Thread: That New PvP Area we have heard so much about!

And of course by simply mentioning PvP we're engaged in 'PvE minimisation', 'PvE disrespect' and 'undermining the PvE community' by asking for crumbs resources for PvP improvements. It's the end of the world if PvP get some upgrades, and we're the unreasonable ones, so on and so forth.

Same old rubbish

Originally Posted by Haunt123

How much money does changing one line of a webpage's code take? Changing "65" to "75"? A million dollars?

Not much. The point being it takes more money than the group that is responsible has. I've been in this situation where my group is over worked. It is never one 10 minuteitem that is ignored. You have hundreds of these 10 minute to 1 hour jobs. It will take 3 staff months to fix them all.

You do not have one staff hour to spare. The staffing issue is that your group struggling to finish your priority work. Each week you get told you are behind schedule on priority one tasks. What is your plan to get back on track. Responses like - reduce the work load - hire more people are not acceptable. You have to get it done with what you have. Get it done.

Originally Posted by Haunt123

They should be getting enough money from the store now to be able to type on the keyboard

Store earnings will go to paying for new products to go on the Lotro store shelves. Earnings will go to Warner Brothers to pay of funds expended to buy Turbine. Earnings will go to Time Warner to pay the stock holders.

The earnings will not go to the web site because it is black hole. Turbine pours money into the hole. No dollars come out the hole. Turbine could charge for a "7". It would happen. Put out a little basket. Once there is 50,000 or whatever Turbine Points in the basket, we will change the 6 to a 7.

Originally Posted by Yula_the_Mighty

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no disrespect... but are you on turbines payroll as the "average player supporting turbine"?

not saying you are but your standing out as the only one supporting tubine in their actions.
your also on the forums a lot... unusual for most people, since there is ether RL or Lotro with forums only a little slice of most people's time.

your points make sense but... why? money? you gotta know its wrong to cheat people like they did.

heck it may even be against the consumer bill of rights somewhere (Searches though law book hopelessly).

Originally Posted by Thane9

Tired of the existing map? Use the parts that currently I can ride out to and sit ALL NIGHT and not see another player. 80+% of the map is hardly used, if ever.

We don't need a new map. We need a revitilization to the existing map and the existing mechanics.
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this is very important and very true, yet still very unlikely to be heeded by turbine. One area that comes to the front of my mind here is the vast expanse of land between lugazag, plains op and river op. this is actually a very interesting part of the map with this valley area SE of DG which looks like it would make for such fun pvp, archers on the top of the valley, a big raid v raid in the centre, looks very interesting. Yet I can only EVER recall fighting one person there in my entire pvp time (im almost rank 11) and that was a rank 0 guard who i presume was a bit new and was rather lost . the main reason such areas are unrecognizable to most players is the placement of the graveyards and bridges that funnel people into fights. Just off the top of my head maybe stick a massive flag in the middle of the valley ( and obv lots of other flags all over the map i.e between lug 3 and the hoardale, another desolate place) which add, i dunno say +5% inf gain to whichever side owns. A few npcs just so one person cant take it alone and boom you have a reason to go to this place. not only will you get more inf from capturing it but for +5% gain per flag people will be around these areas a lot more and thus more people to kill. I dunno i just thought this off the top of my head so dont take as gospel . (of the flying spaghetti monster)

Originally Posted by Lendas

no disrespect... but are you on turbines payroll as the "average player supporting turbine"?

not saying you are but your standing out as the only one supporting tubine in their actions.
your also on the forums a lot... unusual for most people, since there is ether RL or Lotro with forums only a little slice of most people's time.

your points make sense but... why? money? you gotta know its wrong to cheat people like they did.

heck it may even be against the consumer bill of rights somewhere (Searches though law book hopelessly).

Yula the Mighty owns the forums. 25k posts, which are all coherent, not spam, useful information. Can't beat that

Originally Posted by Haunt123

Yula the Mighty owns the forums. 25k posts, which are all coherent, not spam, useful information. Can't beat that

Agreed. Yula should get an extra 500TP allowance or something for as much work he/she has put in.

Originally Posted by Lendas

no disrespect... but are you on turbines payroll as the "average player supporting turbine"?

not saying you are but your standing out as the only one supporting tubine in their actions.
your also on the forums a lot... unusual for most people, since there is ether RL or Lotro with forums only a little slice of most people's time.

your points make sense but... why? money? you gotta know its wrong to cheat people like they did.

heck it may even be against the consumer bill of rights somewhere (Searches though law book hopelessly).

Originally Posted by Haunt123

Yula the Mighty owns the forums. 25k posts, which are all coherent, not spam, useful information. Can't beat that

I agree. Some compensation is called for. This person (Yula) is invaluable to the Lotro community.

Maybe instead of a new map, they are planning on overhauling the Moor's with a different map, perhaps showing the 5 years worth of battles.

For example, Tol island is now a huge flat land, with a few bits of rubble as through countless battles Tol collapsed upon itself.

As battle raged, the Isen was diverted a different way downstream (so the water still makes it way to the last bridge), but results in the Moors rivers being large, dried channels.

Glan Vraig at some point was attacked and fell into ruin and despair and the freeps had to flee to Ost Ringdyr (the new freep safe zone).

The hobbit village was completely wiped out and is now a huge spider nest inhabiting the island, and what hobbits remain took refuge and expanded the south outpost somewhat.

Lumbercamp was burned to the ground, but its place a large haunting multi-floored citadel of Angmar.

That kind of thing. If we aren't going to get a new map, this would be a great card to play, giving us in effect a new region to fight in.

They did make it up, they are scam artists.

I didn't pay for jack squat, but good luck to those of you who did.

Originally Posted by Thorebane

A Dev responded saying they weren't properly going to update it as they haven't the funds to change these things.

It has nothing to do with funds, IMHO. I believe that it has to do with the fact that projects get started by one Dev, but then that Dev leaves Turbine, and the next Dev that comes along doesn't bother to pick the ball back up, and whatever the previous Dev did sits there for the rest of the life of the game, never to be touched again.

This seems to happen a lot IN the game as well.

I remember when Turbine, or more directly Steefel, said they were going to make a "social MMO website" to coincide with LOTRO. They made all kinds of promises and claims and threw out all kinds of marketing fluff. Unfortunately, 60% of what they said they were going to do never got done, and the other 40% (what you see today) is broken in some form or another.

In all of my time of playing games, I've never, ever seen such a careless company like Turbine. They implement stuff, tell us it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, then drop the ball, only to leave it sit there and rot, ignoring the weeks, months and even years of begging to fix or update it. They also release bug infested "expansions", charge for them, and then leave those bugs to rot as well, sometimes ignoring them like they're not even there.

However, if the reality of the situation is that they REALLY don't have the funds to change these things, then LOTRO isn't doing as well as they would like us, or try to convince us, to think it is.

It's all sad, really, considering they have the rights to such a big IP.

LOL @ the funds they "didnt have" wut a load of crock. Greedy sobs just want more money to keep.

Originally Posted by Zaddoc

Maybe instead of a new map, they are planning on overhauling the Moor's with a different map, perhaps showing the 5 years worth of battles.

For example, Tol island is now a huge flat land, with a few bits of rubble as through countless battles Tol collapsed upon itself.

As battle raged, the Isen was diverted a different way downstream (so the water still makes it way to the last bridge), but results in the Moors rivers being large, dried channels.

Glan Vraig at some point was attacked and fell into ruin and despair and the freeps had to flee to Ost Ringdyr (the new freep safe zone).

The hobbit village was completely wiped out and is now a huge spider nest inhabiting the island, and what hobbits remain took refuge and expanded the south outpost somewhat.

Lumbercamp was burned to the ground, but its place a large haunting multi-floored citadel of Angmar.

That kind of thing. If we aren't going to get a new map, this would be a great card to play, giving us in effect a new region to fight in.

This is probably the best idea I've ever heard concerning this particular issue.

I thought they recently stated that they were not adding a new zone because the ettenmoors was now "optimized"...

Originally Posted by Bakshi

I thought they recently stated that they were not adding a new zone because the ettenmoors was now "optimized"...

Taken Turbine 5 years to suddenly figure out the Moor's is optimized and suddenly doesn't need a map... what :S?

Originally Posted by Zaddoc

Maybe instead of a new map, they are planning on overhauling the Moor's with a different map, perhaps showing the 5 years worth of battles.

For example, Tol island is now a huge flat land, with a few bits of rubble as through countless battles Tol collapsed upon itself.

As battle raged, the Isen was diverted a different way downstream (so the water still makes it way to the last bridge), but results in the Moors rivers being large, dried channels.

Glan Vraig at some point was attacked and fell into ruin and despair and the freeps had to flee to Ost Ringdyr (the new freep safe zone).

The hobbit village was completely wiped out and is now a huge spider nest inhabiting the island, and what hobbits remain took refuge and expanded the south outpost somewhat.

Lumbercamp was burned to the ground, but its place a large haunting multi-floored citadel of Angmar.

That kind of thing. If we aren't going to get a new map, this would be a great card to play, giving us in effect a new region to fight in.

This is an epic idea! Turbine need to do this!


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Originally Posted by Zaddoc

Maybe instead of a new map, they are planning on overhauling the Moor's with a different map, perhaps showing the 5 years worth of battles.

For example, Tol island is now a huge flat land, with a few bits of rubble as through countless battles Tol collapsed upon itself.

As battle raged, the Isen was diverted a different way downstream (so the water still makes it way to the last bridge), but results in the Moors rivers being large, dried channels.

Glan Vraig at some point was attacked and fell into ruin and despair and the freeps had to flee to Ost Ringdyr (the new freep safe zone).

The hobbit village was completely wiped out and is now a huge spider nest inhabiting the island, and what hobbits remain took refuge and expanded the south outpost somewhat.

Lumbercamp was burned to the ground, but its place a large haunting multi-floored citadel of Angmar.

That kind of thing. If we aren't going to get a new map, this would be a great card to play, giving us in effect a new region to fight in.

That is a great idea.

The dev team also read it, also thought it was a great idea, but decided that instead of doing all this, they would simply give us a new tree.

Instead of a bird, they will be adding a frog this time just to spice things up and keep things interesting.