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    Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    After having tried several times through Gamestop's download department, I finally gave up and had to buy Mines of Moria through the LOTRO store.
    I wanted to get the Mithril Edition, including the mount and 2000 TP, but due to some issues with Gamestop's site, I am completely unable to purchase said expansion pack from them.

    That makes me a bit unhappy. Yes, I get two more char slots with the LOTRO store edition.
    But what I do NOT get is the 2000 TP AND the special mount.

    I do not live in a country where you can buy the Mithril Edition in the stores. So my only option was to buy it online from Gamestop and since I am not able to do that, I have to admit that I feel kind of cheesed off at the LOTRO store.
    WHY do I not get the Mithril Edition there, WITH mount and 2000 TP? The price is the same as the Mithril Edition at Gamestop...


    I'm rather disappointed over this. So I'd really like someone to explain to me why the LOTRO store doesn't offer us the same for our money as Gamestop would, IF their orderprocessing system wasn't currently broken. Anyone?

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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    You're comparing two completely different packages.

    The LOTRO Mithril edition includes the Path of the Fellowship quest pack, 2000TP and a mount. As part of that you get the Mines of Moria quest pack, but not the full expansion.

    The Mines of Moria expansion includes the Mines of Moria quest pack, two character slots, the Warden class, the Runekeeper class and the Skirmish Trait upgrade (to 15).

    They can't be directly compared as they contain very different content. It's true that the Mithril edition probably gives you more for your money, but on the other hand the Moria expansion can be purchased using (at least partially) TP earned by playing the game AND can be purchased regularly at a discounted rate during store sales.
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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

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    This is copied directly from Gamestop's website. To ME, it does look like you do get the Mines of Moria zone, plus a few others with that purchase. The exclusive game mount and the 2000 TP is another reason why I tried several times to purchase it through Gamestop before I had to give up.
    They are switching there entire ordering and payment system from some old DOS based one to a new and more current one, but it's caused quite a lot of errors - like people being unable to order anything, for one, orders being cancelled repeatedly is another issue.
    I'm just a bit upset that I have to pay the same for the Mines of Moria expansion through the LOTRO store and miss out on the mount and the 2000 TP.

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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    Read my response again. Yes, you get the Mines of Moria QUEST PACK in the Mithril Edition, as I mentioned. You do NOT get the Mines of Moria EXPANSION.

    The Expansion includes the quest pack along with the two character slots, the Warden class, the Runekeeper class and the Skirmish Trait upgrade (to 15).
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    AW: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    Path of the Fellowship Bonus Quests are NOT the normal quest packs!
    These are just a bunch of bonus quests that you get. You don't get the normal region quest from that!
    I know it's kind of not clear. I bought it for friends and was a little disapointed. The box is still a good deal, though.

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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    Instead of just complaining you might actually try reading what was posted. As the previous poster stated, the Mines of Moria provided in the Mithril Edition is JUST the quest pack, NOT the expansion. So it does not include 2 extra character slots, the Warden class, the Runekeeper class and Skirmish trait to 15. If you bought those separately it would cost you 2800 TP, which is MORE than the 2000 you get with the Mithril Edition. The fact that you may or may not want those features is irrelevant, that's what you are paying for. Also, there is NO reason why the exclusive mount should come with the Mines of Moria expansion simply because you want it.

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    Question Re: AW: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lialix View Post
    Path of the Fellowship Bonus Quests are NOT the normal quest packs!
    These are just a bunch of bonus quests that you get. You don't get the normal region quest from that!
    I know it's kind of not clear. I bought it for friends and was a little disapointed. The box is still a good deal, though.
    can you explain this please?

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    Re: AW: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rawling View Post
    can you explain this please?
    He is wrong. The quest packs included in the Path of the Fellowship (Trollshaws, Eregion, Mines of Moria, and Lothlórien) are exactly the same as if you bought those zones separately. The only difference is between the Mines of Moria quest pack and the Mines of Moria Expansion.

    Unless by "normal region" he means that the Path of the Fellowship pack doesn't include Evendium, Angmar, Forochel, Misty, etc. But i don't understand why anyone would think that it would.
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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    Lialix, I have bought the Mithril Edition.

    It includes the Path of the Fellowship quest packs (Eregion, Trollshaws, Moria and Lothlorien)..

    These are full Quest Pack's, i.e. every quest in these regions, I know I've now done most of them.

    It does not include the other elements of the Moria Expansion Pack (+2 char slots, RK, Warden, L15 skirmish traits etc.) I have had to buy those in the store.

    Lialix if your friends are having a problem they should contact customer support as the mithril edition code to be entered onto the account page is clearly not functioning correctly if they do not get access to the full QP's.

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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    For the Path of the Fellowship quests:


    For the Mithril Edition:

    > http://mithril.lotro.com/
    (here it says: "Path of the Fellowship Bonus Quests"

    Path of the Fellowship Bonus Quests
    Forge your own legend in Middle-earth alongside Aragorn, Legolas, and Gandalf. From the Shire to Rivendell - adventure in a masterful recreation of Middle-earth! Includes the Trollshaws, Eregion, Mines of Moria, and Lothlórien.

    For the Mines of Moria Expansion:


    For the Moria Questpack:

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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    Quote Originally Posted by DolphineQ View Post
    I wanted to get the Mithril Edition, including the mount and 2000 TP, but due to some issues with Gamestop's site, I am completely unable to purchase said expansion pack from them.
    Have you tried contacting Gamestop?

    You could buy it in other online shops, like Amazon, too.
    http://www.amazon.de/Der-Herr-Ringe-...3619214&sr=8-1

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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    Thanks for your replies, mates.

    I see that I didn't understand the wording of the Mithril Edition correctly then. I'm not a native english speaker, which is likely the reason.
    Still feel that it is worded a bit clumsily, because I read it as you get all the quests, which means you have to be able to enter the Expansion/Zone to be able to do the quests, so I assumed that was automatically the case.

    I still want to buy the Mithril Edition, because I enjoy the Fellowship questline. And I really would like the mount. But Gamestop's site has some issues and yes, I have contacted them to let them know - but I found from the forums, that I am not alone and that Gamestop isn't really informing people of how long it'll take to solve those issues. Sadly.

    But thanks for all your help, made things a bit more clear .

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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    It's a general theme: Anything you buy with points in the store is more expensive than if you were to buy it directly with money. Goes for expansions as well as the Mithril edition.
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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    Quote Originally Posted by DolphineQ View Post
    Still feel that it is worded a bit clumsily, because I read it as you get all the quests, which means you have to be able to enter the Expansion/Zone to be able to do the quests, so I assumed that was automatically the case.

    I still want to buy the Mithril Edition, because I enjoy the Fellowship questline.
    You can enter all zones in the game without buying anything.
    Access to all zones is free however you will not have any quests or instances in most of the zones unless you buy them.

    If you talk about the "Fellowship questline" do you mean the Epic quests? If you do then all epic quests are free for everyone.

    The Path of the Fellowship quest pack bundle is worded like this because each region that it contains are regions the fellowship walked through to reach Lothlorien (i.e. Trollshaws, Eregion, Moria and Lothlorien).
    Now with the Isengard, the Great River and other areas that are still to come where our heroes did set a foot in on their way to Mordor it might need some rewording as it could be misleading I guess. But then again one could argue that the fellowship broke up after the attack where Boromir got killed...

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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    Would that area where they broke up be the Great River Region, by any chance?

    If so...

    If not, I'd best get less rusty on my knowledge of game map versus book map again.

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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    So, you want to pay the store 1900 or so TP and GET 2000 TP back?

    Uh...

    Edit. My bad 2445 TP for the expansion in store?
    Last edited by hex2323; Apr 06 2012 at 11:08 AM.

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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    The Mithril edition is targeted to a difference audience than the Lotro Store offerings.

    The Mithril edition is a boxed version designed to be put on the shelf of a retail store. Its target is gamers who don't play Lotro. Plus the non players browse stores that sell PC games or online stores that sell PC games. The box comes with installation media and a lot of goodies. It designed as an attractive product that will generate impulse buys. It is a loss leader, a bread crumb, low cost sample to get potential customers into the game.

    With the low price, I doubt Warner Brothers gets any profit off the box. The price is designed to pay for the costs of producing the boxes, ads, paying for shelf space, offering discounts to companies like Gamestop to convince them to sell the Mithril edition. The profit is going to Amazon and Gamestop not Warner Brothers.


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    AW: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    I was wrong!!!
    Thanks for the answers!!!!!!
    Sorry if I did confuse some!
    So the Mithril edition has the "real" quest packs!!!

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    Re: Mines of Moria - LOTRO store being a bit unfair.

    Quote Originally Posted by DolphineQ View Post
    After having tried several times through Gamestop's download department, I finally gave up and had to buy Mines of Moria through the LOTRO store.
    I wanted to get the Mithril Edition, including the mount and 2000 TP, but due to some issues with Gamestop's site, I am completely unable to purchase said expansion pack from them.

    That makes me a bit unhappy. Yes, I get two more char slots with the LOTRO store edition.
    But what I do NOT get is the 2000 TP AND the special mount.

    I do not live in a country where you can buy the Mithril Edition in the stores. So my only option was to buy it online from Gamestop and since I am not able to do that, I have to admit that I feel kind of cheesed off at the LOTRO store.
    WHY do I not get the Mithril Edition there, WITH mount and 2000 TP? The price is the same as the Mithril Edition at Gamestop...


    I'm rather disappointed over this. So I'd really like someone to explain to me why the LOTRO store doesn't offer us the same for our money as Gamestop would, IF their orderprocessing system wasn't currently broken. Anyone?

    The Mithril Edition is available in much of the world from amazon.co.uk

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