Discussion: Solo a Guardian

I have been wanting to try a Guardian for a while now but not sure how good it is a soloing which I mainly do because I like it and have a hard time finding someone to group with me. The main reason why I have not tried it is because a friend of mine that had played before said they have little Damage output. So much that you will just to a little ding of damage. He also said that would force me to group the entire time.

P.S. This friend of mine has not been playing for over a year if not longer in the game.

All classes can be solo'd to cap without trouble. Of course with a Guard you won't mow down enemies as fast as a DPS class but the damage output is not as bad as your friend is making out.

You can also counter somewhat the lower damage by fighting multiple enemies at once, and by pursuing quests that are above your level. Because of the survivability of the Guard both of these are good options. And once you get to the high 30s/low 40s the Overpower stance becomes viable, this 2 handed stance will trade off some of your survivability for increased damage output.

Don't listen to your friend - roll a Guard and play on!

OK I figure anyway you will not need the damage output since you have high defense which will counter set the low damage output. At least I think that is the general since of a high defense low damage output type of character in any game. I will post again when I have played a little of the character just to give my input. Any more helpful input will be appreciated.

I don't play a guardian, but to my best knowledge guardians also have a setup where they are more DPS than tank. Playing solo, you won't need all the aggro stuff.

My guardian friend was able to quest way above her level, simply because of her survivability, so basically my guess would be to setup more towards DPS (for speed while levelling) and do quests above your level.

For solo play you'll probably want to create multiple builds;

- Overpower DPS build ~ single-target
- Overpower DPS build ~ mob AoE
- Avoidance build

For group play you'll also want a build for tanking.

That brings your total build count to four, although you could just create an all-purpose Overpower build and create a hybrid of the Avoidance and Tanking builds.

My first time in Overpower was as level 65. Most people in the forums tend to say that you'll begin to like Overpower after level 40. Level 45 is also when you get your first legendaries.

As an Overpower Guardian my experience is that you want to have a high crit rating. Not only will having a high crit rating offset the lack of a critical multiplier legacy but you can also keep targets stunned for a good portion of the battle through Overwhelm (stun on crit) and To the King (CJ on crit).

Your first dabbles in Overpower may leave you feeling Power starved.. this will help you to work on your rotations until you learn when, when not to, and how often to use certain skills. Sting is by far one of the best skills for Power to Damage ratio in your repetoire. Sweeping Cut is great for AoE but also really expensive. Whirling Retaliation and Vexing Blow are two great AoE's for both cheap Power to Damage ratio as well as helping you to OP-Tank if you ever need to.

The best thing that we can do in terms of rotations and builds is probably to link to other posts in the Guardian forums.

My signature contains a link to a list of solo accomplishments that I have done if you are interested.

The part about not doing a lot of damage is true for single targets. However, you can take on 2, 3, 4 ... or more targets at once and kill them all with aoe attacks while you sit there absorbing the damage they deal to you. Your toughness also lets you taking on mobs much larger than yourself. To me that was part of the fun when I was soloing most of Angmar. I would sneak about and pick off a troll here or there. Heck, now that I'm lvl 75 I've gone back and solo'd lots of Moria instances. So the guard is great solo class.

The only time I have any issues at all is when I have to deal with mobs that heal themselves. One is ok, but two or more is tough. The heal faster than I can do damage and the battles become long protracted fights where I eventually have to run away cause I run out of power to do skills and the mobs have healed themselves back to 100% lol

Yes this is a good point. Even in tank mode the low damage isn't bad because you can round up 5+ mobs and fight them all at once with AOEs. OP stance is just icing on the cake. I think guardians are great for soloing. They are also good at training through tough areas when playing. No need to take your time and use caution because you're a guardian. It's like being a burglar but instead of having stealth, you're a guardian.

If you're doing solo primarily as you imply then you will definitely want to go Overpower and you'll probably want a build that mirrors more my own.

In terms of damage.. once you get your character decked out with uber gear and jewellery you'll do dps comparable to Champions. I don't care what the majority of people say, I know how *my* dps compares with Champs. I'll write up a detailed document and post it online for you if you're interested.

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If you're doing solo primarily as you imply then you will definitely want to go Overpower and you'll probably want a build that mirrors more my own.

In terms of damage.. once you get your character decked out with uber gear and jewellery you'll do dps comparable to Champions. I don't care what the majority of people say, I know how *my* dps compares with Champs. I'll write up a detailed document and post it online for you if you're interested.

I'm doing quite a bit of Overpowering myself and I would love to see what build you have that makes you comparable with Champions dps

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I'm doing quite a bit of Overpowering myself and I would love to see what build you have that makes you comparable with Champions dps

The number one limiting factor for Champions is their fervour. That handicap goes a long way towards evening out our dps even though they have a critical damage multiplier. One could say that as Guardians our handicap are Parry reactives, but regardless of whether we have aggro or the tank has we can still get those reactives, along with forcing the occasional reactive. If a Champion does get aggro they often have to bubble, which costs them precious fervour and thus lowers their dps. And if a Champ has to aggro dump that is more precious fervour that they are having to waste. Champions simply cannot afford to grab aggro as they cannot mitigate the damage nearly as well as an Overpower Guardian. As OP-Guards we can blow through all of our cooldowns and have some or all of them reset by the time the next encounter begins, without slowing down our dps at all.

Your Might and Physical Mastery will certainly help your base dps, but it is your critical rating and relics that will make the biggest difference. We want to crit and crit often. I find that once you get any one of your rating stats over 15% that you really start to notice a difference, and infact the actual results tend to be higher than your rating once you get that stat above 15%. I try to run with a critical rating that fluxuates between 19-22%, I also use the relics that add to my devastate damage.

The other hidden stat that helps is Agility. I like to compare our Agility with their Fervour. Regardless of whether your attack is on a single target or an AoE it is devastating when there are misses. I personally like to run with an Agility over 700. Yes, they are completely different stats with no correlation to each other, call it an oddball comparison that is otherwise meaningless.

The other thing to take advantage of are skills that crit often. Even though we don't have a crit legacy for Sting, I find that it crits often. Sting, Stagger, Overwhelm and To the King all crit very often. Sweeping Cut when traited for max AoE targets does an insane amount of damage because each target that it hits it hits them twice. Vexing Blow is okay, but I prefer to only have to use it if both Sweeping Cut and Whirling Retaliation are on cooldown due to its slow attack animation.

Another often overlooked strategy involves positional damage. Our Stagger, when legacy-traited, gain +15% damage on positional attacks. Combined with the Stagger legacy or a generally high crit rating then not only are you critting almost all the time but you are also dealing 15% more damage, crit or no crit.

What else? I find that targets take significantly more damage when they are stunned. Whether I am stunning a target through Overwhelm, To the King, or Turn the Tables.. or if the Champion does an AoE stun with their horn I find that I dish out bigger hits on those targets. If a target(s) is stunned don't waste a slow attack such as Vexing Blow or Brutal Assault on them. Sting is often borderline with me because it sometimes takes a while to fire, but it is difficult to ignore how reliably I crit and do big damage with it.

So unbuffed and without trail food my stats, depending on jewellery and legendary weapon, tend to be around:
Morale: 9.6k - 10.5k
Might: 1600 - 1700
Agility: 650 - 750
Crit: 19 - 22%

That's with me holding back on my stats. If I have the utmost confidence in my tank to hold aggro then I'll actually run with a more dps extreme build unbuffed and no trail food of:
Morale: mid 7k
Might: approx 2100
Agility: over 700
Crit: over 23%

Having under 8k morale as a Guardian often creates eye-opener reactions from party members, it just isn't something that you see everyday. But for Champions that have under 8k morale, we can actaully gain a lot more Might than them while still having comparable Morale to them. Plus we still maintain our high mitigations and our epic skill of Guardian's Pledge.

With trail food and cappy buffs 'n banner I've actually gotten my Might over 2200. With the Sting Physical Mastery buff from teh ToO OP set, and some Cappy skill I've seen my Physical Mastery over 150%.

The only tanks that I trust enough to hold aggro in an extreme dps build are Wardens using EoB + TV in Determination stance. Otherwise I run with my more standard dps build, which even then I often find myself having to hold back on skills such as Vexing Blow and Whirling Retaliation.

In my extreme build I have posted over 1700 dps over an instance, over 3000 for an encounter, and my largest single hit ever recorded has been over 8700 damage (Goilag in Prancing Pony).

Overpower Guardians that have either not perfected their build and/or their rotations may complain about Power issues, but when you spend 95% of your time in Overpower you learn how not to run out of power.

Well I just got my guardian to level 6 almost 7 and I like it a lot. It is definitely better the I expected I love doing the shield skills and the damage is good enough I will be able to do this without much trouble. The only thing is I tend to miss more than I thought I would but I am sure that I be fixed with the equipment and traits I get. Must play longer before setting on a class trait path to follow. I also picked the Prospector, Tailor and Metal-smith crafting path. Also for any character is it better to follow a single class trait path or use a combination of trait tailored to what you like to do. I have been thinking about that for my other character. Thanks for the advice.

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Also for any character is it better to follow a single class trait path or use a combination of trait tailored to what you like to do. I have been thinking about that for my other character. Thanks for the advice.

You should try and earn all of your traits - the more you have access to the more flexible you can be with your build as you progress. I wouldn't bother with the red line until you get to about level 40 (try to earn the class traits, but don't slot them) when it becomes more worthwhile.

At low levels the traits I would aim for are Defensive Expertise and Harasser. Those two traits will really help you to improve killing speed by taking on a number of enemies at once.

I think it needs to be said that you don't really need to use overpower if you don't want to. I leveled my Guardian in Sword and Board the whole time and loved it. We are certainly a bit slower killing things than most classes, but we can often tackle much harder content than others.

When it comes to crafting the real question is if this will be your main/only toon or if this is an alt. Basically, any low-level alt can craft things for you so long as you can provide the ore/wood/scholar stuff, so you really want to make sure you can gather resources with Prospector/Forestor/Scholar, then you can worry about the other stuff. Basically, it's highly recommended for your main toon(s) to be an Explorer (for Prospector and Forester) and/or Historian (for Scholar).

At end-game the only crafts that get much use are the ones that make consumables that people need frequently. The main ones are scholars for scrolls and potions, jewelers for hope tokens and cooks for Food. Metalsmith happens to be the only profession with no consumables at all. Tailor isn't much better with only Burglar Signals, which aren't widely used to my knowledge. If you join a kin (which I highly recommend) then they will likely have Metalsmiths which are happy to actually have something useful to do and make you any armor you may need so long as you can provide the materials.

An evening in the Moors tonight of flipping keeps on my Overpower Guardian. This was done with 4 people total; Guardian, Warden, Champ, Captain. During the 26 minutes of combat time we were able to flip Lug, TA, TR, Isen and capture a Relic.. all by ourselves.

Lug, Isen, TA and the Relic each took approx 3-5 minutes. TR we spent a lot longer on due to Creep resistance, which we still managed to kill the Tyrant but wiped and tried to come back and flip the flag but wiped again, but we still got our commendations.

For this particular setup I was running approx 1900 Might, 900 Agility. The next time that we do this I'd like to go in running over 2200 Might in my glass cannon build.

If there was one thing that lowered the overall dps it was that Creeps kept on trying to prevent us from flipping their keeps and capturing the relic.

I love guard. I prefer OP because I solo a lot.

Posting from my other post, as is relevant to this thread.

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Here's actually a challenge that anyone is welcome to. This is from doing the Forges of Isengard. First thing I do is hit my sprint and round up every single target and AoE everything to death, not leaving a single target in my round-up. In just over a minute of combat I recorded 2482.8 dps. I challenge other people to post theirs.

wow I finally understand why the skill Overpowered is such a interesting skill to talk about. You could do so much with it and do two very different or more builds with it. I will try it out but I will most likely go with a defense build because I like using the shield and that is part of what the Guardian is suppose to do. I will still use it in some places. I'm going to do a 2-handed ax because I like dwarfs using a ax, dwarfs usually use a ax on Loto and dwarfs get a bonus to ax damage.

[ PvMP ]

Morale: 10,005 *butter zone
Power: 2201
Might: 1507 *butter zone
Agility: 689 *butter zone
Vitality: 1238
Critical Hit: 6503 (17.1%) <-- still too low, wishlist 19+%
Finesse: 6252 (17.4%) <-- still too low, wishlist 20+%
Resistance: 9393 (24.0%) *anything 20+% is butter zone
Common Mitigation: 9549 (63.8%)
Tactical Mitigation: 10,411 (54.9%)

Earrings:

[Empowered Anduin Martyr's Earring] ~ Stangard barter
[Knight's Platinum Stud] ~ skraids

Necklace:

[Ancient Moonstone and Topaz Necklace] ~ Oxclan barter

Bracelets:

[Bracelet of the Fallen Orcs] ~ RoF T2
[Bracelet of Wrath's Hour] ~ Galtrev barter

Rings:

[Empowered Anduin Martyr's Ring] ~ Stangard barter
[Orc Taskmaster's Ring] ~ RoF T2

Pocket:

[Empowered Anduin Martyr's Bauble] ~ Stangard barter

If I'm taking lots of tactical damage or in the Moors fighting a creep such as a Warg, BA, Weaver or Defiler then sometimes I will swap in [Gregolin].

For gear I am currently using some of my Orthanc gear but only because I have not acquired more of my Audacity pieces yet.

Orthanc:

[Helm of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter
[Breastplate of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter

*sometimes I'll swap to a chest piece with 1k Finesse if a creep is difficult to kill

[Leggings of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter

Galtrev:

[Wyrmscale Protector's Cloak]

Ettenmoors:

[Pauldrons of the Fearless] ~ Moors, has tactical mitigation
[Gauntlets of the Sovereign's Blade] ~ Moors
[Sabatons of the Fearless] ~ Moors, has tactical mitigation

[ PvE ]

Morale: 9986
Power: 2361
Might: 1695
Agility: 622
Vitality: 1205
Critical Hit: 6668 (17.3%)
Finesse: 6038 (16.9%)
Resistance: 9327 (23.9%)
Common Mitigation: 9859 (64.4%)
Tactical Mitigation: 8853 (50.3%)

Necklace:

[Ancient Moonstone and Topaz Necklace]

Orthanc:

[Helm of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter
[Breastplate of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter

[Leggings of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter

Galtrev:

[Wyrmscale Protector's Cloak]

Ettenmoors:

[Pauldrons of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter
[Gauntlets of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter
[Sabatons of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter

[ PvE ] ~ tactical mitigation

Morale: 10,068
Power: 2201
Might: 1531
Agility: 653
Vitality: 1285
Critical Hit: 6518 (17.1%)
Finesse: 5006 (14.4%)
Resistance: 9487 (24.2%)
Common Mitigation: 9691 (64.1%)
Tactical Mitigation: 12,112 (59.1%)

Necklace:

[Gregolin]

Orthanc:

[Helm of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter
[Breastplate of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter

[Leggings of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter

Galtrev:

[Wyrmscale Protector's Cloak]

Ettenmoors:

[Pauldrons of the Fearless] ~ Moors, has tactical mitigation
[Gauntlets of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter
[Sabatons of the Fearless] ~ Moors, has tactical mitigation

[ PvE ] ~ glass cannon

Morale: 6966
Power: 2651
Might: 1958
Agility: 622
Vitality: 672
Critical Hit: 7984 (19.4%)
Finesse: 5978 (16.7%)
Resistance: 7757 (20.7%)
Common Mitigation: 9319 (63.4%)
Tactical Mitigation: 6721 (42.7%)

Earrings:

[Knight's Platinum Stud] x2 ~ skraids

Necklace:

[Ancient Moonstone and Topaz Necklace] ~ Oxclan barter

Bracelets:

[Bracelet of the Fallen Orcs] ~ RoF T2
[Bracelet of Wrath's Hour] ~ Galtrev barter

Rings:

[Ring of the Dragon] ~ Galtrev barter
[Exquisite Great River Ring of Valour] ~ Great River craft

Pocket:

[Book of Defensive Manoeuvres] ~ crafted drop recipe

Orthanc:

[Helm of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter
[Breastplate of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter

[Leggings of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter

Galtrev:

[Wyrmscale Blademaster's Cloak]

Ettenmoors:

[Pauldrons of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter
[Gauntlets of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter
[Sabatons of the Laighathel] ~ Oxclan barter

In my glass cannon build, with trail food, buffs and cappy banner I can get my Might over 2200. The IDOME and Motivated buffs also bump my Morale over 8k, and if there is a Minstrel present with Tale of Battle my Morale gets over 8.5k in my glass cannon build.

More of what a dps guardian is capable of, this is from on-level content...
* Battle of the Way of Smiths; set to duo size but solo'd
* I should also mention that I had ZERO buffs, ie; the ONLY buff that I had on was my Overpower Stance which isn't a buff.

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More of what a dps guardian is capable of, this is from on-level content...
* I should also mention that I had ZERO buffs, ie; the ONLY buff that I had on was my Overpower Stance which isn't a buff.

Very nice Could you try your build (solo) on a "Stalking Huorn" in Limlight Gorge? Just wondering what DPS you get there

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Very nice Could you try your build (solo) on a "Stalking Huorn" in Limlight Gorge? Just wondering what DPS you get there

Sure, I can run some parses. Probably one with my standard dps build and another using my glass cannon build.

I've solo'd them before, so for this test does it matter to you whether I don't have aggro, ie; I go in and 2-man them with a Warden? If I don't have to worry about survivability then I can squeeze out a little more dps out of my parses.

I suppose I could always run two tests solo and two tests with someone else having aggro.

When compared against a Hunter, Burglar or Runekeeper whom all excel in single-target dps in a scenario where they don't have to worry about aggro then they should out-dps me on a single target.

To be honest, I'm going to pre-peg my single target dps on one of those Hourns at 600-1000 dps because, number one they are a single target, and two because the Hourns have some pretty good mitigations. If I hit higher than 1k I guess I'll impress myself.

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I suppose I could always run two tests solo and two tests with someone else having aggro.

Fine by me

Well, I just decided to solo the Hourns without anyone tanking as it was pretty easy anyway.

Glass Cannon build (1924 Might & 7k Morale)

Test 1: 1m 47.6s
- dmg 70.7k
- dps 657
- attacks 159
- average 459
- max 1693
- crits 17.5%
- devs 3.2%
- misses 2.5%
- phys avoids 0.6%

Test 2: 1m 42.2s
- dmg 71.7k
- dps 701.9
- attacks 165
- average 437.5
- max 1722
- crits 13%
- devs 4.9%
- misses 0.0%
- phys avoids 1.2%

Standard DPS build (1661 Might & 10k Morale)

Test 1: 1m 46.1s
- dmg 70.5k
- dps 664.5
- attacks 171
- average 417.3
- max 1599
- crits 15.4%
- devs 3.6%
- misses 0.6%
- phys avoids 0.6%

Test 2: 1m 43.1s
- dmg 70.7k
- dps 685.7
- attacks 192
- average 376
- max 1680
- crits 9.2%
- devs 4.9%
- misses 1.6%
- phys avoids 2.1%

okey, thanks

I feel a little embarassed posting only 650-700 dps, but it is on a tough target and is single target dps.. I'm just glad that I didn't post under 500.

I'd be curious to see what other classes are posting against the Hourns. Unfortunately if one of these *dps* classes is going to post their dps you can bet with 99.999% certainty that they won't do it solo because that would drop their precious dps as they would have to waste time on CC against the Hourns as part of their attack rotations. Frankly, I think for the test to be fair that they should have to *solo* as well.

I'd imagine that Champs would have to go Glory.

LM's, Hunters and RK's would probably have to use many of their CC and slow skills, which would slow down their dps substantially.

Minstrels may actually be in a pretty good position to deal out steady dps because they can still self-heal quite well and all of their attacks require zero inductions, although it's possible that they'd have to spend some time using Codas to restore their Power.

Wardens... I honestly have no idea because it's so rare to see a heavily spec'd dps Warden.

Burglars could potentially do a lot of dps even with doing CC as that may be part of their regular rotation anyway since they rely so heavily on positional damage.

3,8k right ? that is pretty cool as long as you don't compare it with AOE DPS of average Champion

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3,8k right ? that is pretty cool as long as you don't compare it with AOE DPS of average Champion

For an *encounter* burst of dps an AoE Champ or Loremaster can post higher dps than 3,8k. However, that is my highest to date for an encounter, and more importantly over the course of the entire instance I still managed to average out at 2,1k dps over 8 minutes of combat time, which in real time for the entire instance would probably be like 15-25 minutes I would imagine since you spend a lot of time waiting and running around.

And when you say *average* Champion.. I'm sorry man, but I will blow the dps out of the water of an average Champion, hands-down.

Personally, I challenge any class to post a higher dps over the course of an entire instance with no buffs for on-level content.
* Give me IDOME, Crit, Improved Counter Defence, Reveal Weakness, Telling Mark, Oathbreakers, etc.. and my dps will go up even further. My biggest single attack outside of Draigoch for on-level content with such buffs (not sure which buffs) was 8,7k.

I'm just trying to create some global awareness that Guardians aren't just meat shields and that we are capable of dps. The stereotype is so bad that I *expect* to get rejected when I pst to join a group as Overpower DPS. Infact, one time I even got turned down for a dps Warden. Course talking about stereotypes, here I am stereotyping Warden dps, when honestly I don't know what a Warden with lots of Might is capable of dps-wise.

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I feel a little embarassed posting only 650-700 dps, but it is on a tough target and is single target dps.. I'm just glad that I didn't post under 500.

Don't think that is anything to be embarrassed about, getting much higher than that would be hard on a Guardian, I pretty much get the same as you tho

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Don't think that is anything to be embarrassed about, getting much higher than that would be hard on a Guardian, I pretty much get the same as you tho

I farmed trees for a bit today on my guard took note of some of the numbers.

727.9
720.2
670.5(I only got 1 BA bleed this fight... 50% chance my ###.)
691.5
701.3 (interrupted here getting the person to stop "helping" cost me at least 50 DPS it was my luckiest fight before I cut it short)
726.9
720.6

My guard is far from where he should be as well at ~1600 might and ~6k crit. I still need t1 ToO deeds, dungeon currency, and a first age. I have had my champion as my raiding/instancing main for a long time and seeing as he is not on the same server nor account as my guard it makes the excessive amount of currency I've gotten all but worthless.

Made a new OP belt (level 75 instead of 65) and also changed out some relics on my weapon and belt so went from 4k crit to 6.7k crit

This was my highest and the rest landed around the 700 mark.

Here's a question for you guys since your single target dps seems to be a little bit higher than mine I think... for my single target weapon I focus heavily on bleeds.. do you guys think that is the right route to go or should I focus more on other legacies such as To The King and Brutal Assault damage? The bleeds can work good for the Moors since there is so much dancing in a spar, but on a single PvE target once you get your bleeds on you don't really need to reapply them for awhile. Whereas I could repeatedly be doing +10% more damage on Brutal Assault and To The King.

Here is my OP weapon and belt and as you can see the only damage "increase" is the Bleed Pulses. If you are in Ettenmoors a lot I would not remove the Bleed Pulses as that is gold there.

I do use unusual Runes in my weapon and belt which I haven't seen on any other Guardian yet tho

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Here's a question for you guys since your single target dps seems to be a little bit higher than mine I think... for my single target weapon I focus heavily on bleeds.. do you guys think that is the right route to go or should I focus more on other legacies such as To The King and Brutal Assault damage? The bleeds can work good for the Moors since there is so much dancing in a spar, but on a single PvE target once you get your bleeds on you don't really need to reapply them for awhile. Whereas I could repeatedly be doing +10% more damage on Brutal Assault and To The King.

You get far more out of maxing (or close to it at least) bleeds. I run with +7 (like I said no 1st age so my points go elsewhere for now) pulses on my weapon and +20% damage. Stacking BA bleeds alone make it worth the pulses but after that being able to leave thrust out of your rotation for an extra ~14-18 seconds will increase your damage again, I would recommend using StW even if you aren't opening up the bleed though I find it's a nice filler skill and it should be used every time you are about to run into a lull in attacks.

BA damage legacy is a waste of points IMO, I use BA every time it is up and adding 10% to that damage is lower than even overwhelm crit chance. TtK damage is better because it is 1/3rd of the CD of BA but even still in my parses I get more from other legacies, if you do have an extra legacy spot tossing a few points into it will of course increase your damage but if you have to take points out of another legacy for it it's not worth it IMO.

Ideally you'd want overwhelm damage, bleed pulses, bleed damage, TtK damage, melee range, and might. In a perfect world you would always be at a perfect range and you could drop the melee range for agility or something similar.

Soloing on a guardian is a ton of fun. Single targets are for wussies and this is why:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGZMz...ZyTLvKeELnpOI=

This was before RoI but still...a lot of fun.

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Here is my OP weapon and belt and as you can see the only damage "increase" is the Bleed Pulses. If you are in Ettenmoors a lot I would not remove the Bleed Pulses as that is gold there.

I do use unusual Runes in my weapon and belt which I haven't seen on any other Guardian yet tho

~drool~ You have a 75 First Age. If it wasn't for the level cap coming soon I may just buy one, but even so I'd still only have maybe a third or half of what I need to get one.

It's really too bad about the +6% Perceived Threat on your Overpower belt because that must draw a lot of aggro to you, unless you want or don't mind the aggro. For Overpower Tanking it must be great.

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~drool~ You have a 75 First Age. If it wasn't for the level cap coming soon I may just buy one, but even so I'd still only have maybe a third or half of what I need to get one.

Isn't the level cap like 5-6 months away?

Envoyé par thatabguy

It's really too bad about the +6% Perceived Threat on your Overpower belt because that must draw a lot of aggro to you, unless you want or don't mind the aggro. For Overpower Tanking it must be great.

Hehe, it's kinda funny with 6% on an OP belt yes but can't say I care, the only place I use OP these days are in Ettenmoors or when I solo PvE, I always go tank mode when I do ToO, RoF or Draigoch anyway