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    Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other build qs

    Which Anduin jewelery set should I get for my captain? I'm still pretty new to level 75; I only have 3/6 pieces of the Galtrev set so far, but I'm nearly kindred with the Limlightians.

    I'm about at 1300 might, 700 vit, 375 agi, 20k Phys Mast, 15k Tact Mast (not ingame currently).

    The pieces are hard to link to out of game because the lorebook doesn't have them and the wiki isn't complete, but here's something:

    https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Exemplar's_Blessing - might/tact mast
    https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Victor's_Might - might/phys mast
    https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Martyr's_Fortitude - vit/might



    How much finesse is good? I already have over 5k (~16% reduction in enemy BPE) which, I think, is too much.

    How much vitality / morale should I shoot for? Currently I'm at about 7k unbuffed and get close to 10k when fully group buffed for morale.

    How much agility? I've been trying to stay between 300 and 400 to reduce miss chance but not go overboard.
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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    Cheat!

    Exemplar/Victor =P

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    That's a possibility, though I need some more golden tokens. And I can't complete both sets since there's only one pocket slot. Do you recommend focusing on tactical or physical mastery first?
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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    Zitat Zitat von Nakiami Beitrag anzeigen
    That's a possibility, though I need some more golden tokens. And I can't complete both sets since there's only one pocket slot. Do you recommend focusing on tactical or physical mastery first?
    Since both set-piece bonuses are identical, go with whichever pocket (and clicky) you like best.

    I know it's a bit of non-advice XD
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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    Once you get all the jewelery you want, you will probably be maxing your outgoing healing at 50% with tactical mastery. The exemplar has more crit, but a clicky that maxes a capped value or something with diminishing returns is not as valuable. I would go with the three piece victor and two piece exemplar.

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    i hadnt seen the peice with the morale bubble and heal. that is a seriously awesome wet bonus. wow.

    i need to run more content in this update. im missing out.
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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

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    That's a possibility, though I need some more golden tokens. And I can't complete both sets since there's only one pocket slot. Do you recommend focusing on tactical or physical mastery first?
    I went with the bubble set (which has the best bonus IMHO) first. But will get one of the other two shortly to have both handy. You can also carry both baubles and switch between two as the situation calls for...

    As to goldens, you can get 3 by trivial solo dailies (one in Rushgore, 2 in Brown lands), which will also help you with 2 slayer deeds as you mow down the mobs. As a bonus, you get lots of rep drops/crafting mats/etc in two of the runs and a dose of IXP...

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

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    I went with the bubble set (which has the best bonus IMHO) first. But will get one of the other two shortly to have both handy. You can also carry both baubles and switch between two as the situation calls for...
    The clicky cd is applied as soon as you equip the bauble, so you can't swap and use it immediately.

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

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    The clicky cd is applied as soon as you equip the bauble, so you can't swap and use it immediately.
    Sure, there is a 5 minute delay. But if for example you want the might one for trash and the clickly for a boss fight, you mostly can handle that, switch while folks retrait/etc before boss, etc.

    The bubble is really nice for survivability -- it seems to me to be out of proportion with the other bonuses. Alas, it doesn't work anywhere in the moors.

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

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    As to goldens, you can get 3 by trivial solo dailies (one in Rushgore, 2 in Brown lands), which will also help you with 2 slayer deeds as you mow down the mobs. As a bonus, you get lots of rep drops/crafting mats/etc in two of the runs and a dose of IXP...
    There are actually 2 in Rushgore. The one at the hub and the other is called "Queen of Queens". It's a bit east from the hub.
    http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Quest:Queen_of_Queens

    Initially it gives silver tokens, but the repeatable gives 1 gold.

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    I went for the Martyr's one first, since the bubble+heal is so much superior to any other clicky effect or increase to stats you could get from the other sets. the stats aren't too bad either, enough might to justify wearing it for any occasion.

    of course I would recommend getting all 3 sets eventually
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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    I use 3 Martyr, 2 Exemplar when I heal. I use 3 Martyr, 2 Victor when I DPS (and last time I tanked i did so too). The Martyr pieces are pretty much the only high vitality pieces I use when I heal, and that suits me just fine. Also, I really really like the set bonus for Martyr; the other two seem relatively impotent to me. Squeezing out a few % more heals/damage for 20s every 5 mins doesn't have the game-changing ability a bubble has. The bubble has the same CD as your IHW, so you can feel safer about using IHW when Last Stand is down.


    Also base your choices on how they fit into your build. Play around with the spreadsheet in my sig, if you want help envisioning your choices and their impact on your stats.

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    Which bracelets have you guys been running around with when you have two of the limlight sets?

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    Exemplar bauble is way superior compared to Victors so I use 3 exemplar 2 victors. I've also gathered martyrs set but they are not included in my usual dps/heal set. Get what you think you need and switch gear for what the situation calls. Sad to see the bubble doesn't work in ettens as it is a great tool when sparring. Also keep in mind if the bubble isn't broken by anything during the 20 seconds it lasts you won't get the heal.

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    I'm not sure I'll bother with an upgraded Victor set even when DPSing. The Exemplar set seems quite adequate for most of what we're going to be doing.

    The Martyr clicky is definitely something to salivate over, though. I'm glad it's not class-locked, because that set is a real boon for Captain tanks.

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    Zitat Zitat von Nakiami Beitrag anzeigen
    Which Anduin jewelery set should I get for my captain? I'm still pretty new to level 75; I only have 3/6 pieces of the Galtrev set so far, but I'm nearly kindred with the Limlightians.

    I'm about at 1300 might, 700 vit, 375 agi, 20k Phys Mast, 15k Tact Mast (not ingame currently).

    The pieces are hard to link to out of game because the lorebook doesn't have them and the wiki isn't complete, but here's something:

    https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Exemplar's_Blessing - might/tact mast
    https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Victor's_Might - might/phys mast
    https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Martyr's_Fortitude - vit/might



    How much finesse is good? I already have over 5k (~16% reduction in enemy BPE) which, I think, is too much.

    How much vitality / morale should I shoot for? Currently I'm at about 7k unbuffed and get close to 10k when fully group buffed for morale.

    How much agility? I've been trying to stay between 300 and 400 to reduce miss chance but not go overboard.
    You didn't really point out what style of Captain you are so this is kind of hard to answer. But basically I'd get the exemplar if are a healer, Victor if you are a dps, and the martyr if you are tanking. That seems to be the general aims of these set pieces.

    From the sound of your posts though I'm going to assume you are a Lead the Charge Captain, so I'd say Victor set probably overall be your best.

    Finesse is good against tank-style mobs, and for those you can't really have enough. But for all other things, 5k is more than enough. And I personally like to keep my agility around 500, else I miss more than I'm comfortable with. 7k unbuffed morale sounds fine unless you are a tank style Captain.

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    Question for those who have the Martyr set...I got a set last night.
    Do you get ANY visual that Fortitude is actually "on"? When I equip the bauble, I only get the morale from the extra vit etc, no bubble that I can see, and no heal after 20s if still in combat (and I stood there letting more than 3k damage get taken off).

    No icons appear under char stats, nothing in the log. Doesn't seem to be doing anything other than straight stats as far as I can see (and I'm not in the moors).
    Also wearing 2 of the Exemplar set (bauble and ring). I'm switching from the Exemplar bauble, equipping the Martyr while also wearing the martyr ring+earring...they are all upgraded. The 5 min timer starts counting down as soon as I equip it.

    I always thought morale bubbles appeared as an extra hashed purple bar at the end of your green morale one? Don't see anything like that. Tested in an instance, and on landscape mobs.

    I DO see a graphic effect around the character indicating something when the 3rd martyr piece is equipped, but like I said, nothing else that gives any indication of a morale bubble or heal. Moral bar just reflects the straight vit+morale stats on the items.

    Another thing I noticed was the countdowns for the 2 sets appear to overlap (although the exemplar set is only 2/3, the countdown still starts). I think somewhere earlier in the thread, it was said you'd have to wait 5 min to enable the second set bonus? Can anyone with 2 sets confirm they can be equipped 'back to back'?

    Thanks

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

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    Question for those who have the Martyr set...I got a set last night.
    Do you get ANY visual that Fortitude is actually "on"? When I equip the bauble, I only get the morale from the extra vit etc, no bubble that I can see, and no heal after 20s if still in combat (and I stood there letting more than 3k damage get taken off).

    No icons appear under char stats, nothing in the log. Doesn't seem to be doing anything other than straight stats as far as I can see (and I'm not in the moors).
    Also wearing 2 of the Exemplar set (bauble and ring). I'm switching from the Exemplar bauble, equipping the Martyr while also wearing the martyr ring+earring...they are all upgraded. The 5 min timer starts counting down as soon as I equip it.

    I always thought morale bubbles appeared as an extra hashed purple bar at the end of your green morale one? Don't see anything like that. Tested in an instance, and on landscape mobs.

    I DO see a graphic effect around the character indicating something when the 3rd martyr piece is equipped, but like I said, nothing else that gives any indication of a morale bubble or heal. Moral bar just reflects the straight vit+morale stats on the items.

    Another thing I noticed was the countdowns for the 2 sets appear to overlap (although the exemplar set is only 2/3, the countdown still starts). I think somewhere earlier in the thread, it was said you'd have to wait 5 min to enable the second set bonus? Can anyone with 2 sets confirm they can be equipped 'back to back'?

    Thanks
    the effect is not initiated when you equip the pocket item. when you equip the item, a 5 minute cooldown is triggered (but no effect) to prevent you from swapping in a new clicky item and having access to the effect right away. all clicky items work this way. after the initial 5 minute cooldown, the clicky will act normally. if you unequip and then re-equip you will trigger the 5 minute cooldown again. I assume the graphic that you saw when you equipped the third piece was a gold aura around your toon which faded quickly. This graphic is triggered whenever you equip a full set and gain access to a special ability. it is not related to the activation of the clicky.

    hope that clears it up for you.

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    Obviously I've not used clickies before...|-]

    So, you need to be wearing the bauble you want the effect for 5 min in advance of needing it? And, there is no way you can be wearing the victor/exemplar set, well after their 5 min cooldowns, then switch to the martyr set for the bubble as needed? You need to already have the martyr set on, then re-equip the martyr bauble to get the Fortitude bonus for example?

    Thanks

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    All of these click effects are totally senseless for a captain I think... the bubble may be a nice feature for the moors or in orthanc but not worth for the stats on it...

    105 might an 1500 tact. mastery sounds not that bad... but for 20 seconds? 2550 tactical mastery for 20 seconds although you´re still on healcap? no thank you

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

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    All of these click effects are totally senseless for a captain I think... the bubble may be a nice feature for the moors or in orthanc but not worth for the stats on it...
    Bubble is deactivated in the moors, alas.

    But the martyr set is very nice for survivability. Lots of vit is good (tac resist, morale, etc), and the bubble is by far the best of the clickies...

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    Re: Captain's Anduin set: Exemplar? Victor? Martyr? (Tact/Phys Mast/Vit) + other buil

    Myself and the other captain(s) in kin went for the upgraded Martyr set first. As stated earlier in this post, the bonus is quite juicy especially in certain encounters where you plan on taking damage, or possibly need to OT something briefly. The real benefit to wearing the Vitality set is also the benefits you get in Tactical Mitigation/Physical Mitigation. Less damage you take = less healing you need to do. Also if I were healing 3mans, I would absolutely rock this set all the time.

    Currently I have Exemplars as well, and I use 2pc of that, but I am going to start playing around with Victors as well. Again, as has been already stated, the clicky is close to useless on the Exemplars set.

    To answer someones question earlier, with using 2x Exemplars and 3x Victors, I use the Great River Bracelet with might/vit/power/crit, and Easterlings. Considering doubling up on the Easterlings though if I ever find another. Or a Bangle of Echoing Battle.

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