Thread: Lag has become unbearable.

Originally Posted by Rainyman

I don't play console games (how the hell do you play an fps with a console controller anyway?), and I've heard all the PC ports of CoD were terrible.

On the other hand, Tribes Ascend looks fun. And it's in open beta. (And free to play)

You don't need CoD on the comp, still have UT and CS:S.

Yea I am quiting as well, this game just isn't worth my time anymore. The latest patch just sealed the deal, I tried to pvp and aside from the lag so bad I felt like I was playing on a 56k modem, trash creeps were pretty much invulnerable because they had 7 audacity and I didn't. I don't really have the time anymore to deal with that kinda trash style pvp system. I have seen it before in other mmo's and it is the reason I stopped playing them in the first place.

I have no doubt that the pvp community is going to keep shrinking til none of the old timers even really want to log in. I am not even playing another mmo thats the sad thing... nothing pulled me away from lotro... lotro pushed me away quite well enough on its own.

I do have a lifer account, but something tells me this time that I won't ever be coming back. I didn't realize what was happening at first, but the game I loved "lotro" it doesn't exist anymore turbine has made so many small changes over the years that It just kinda passed my knowing like the slow movements of a sloth. Just like gollum and the ring, it whispered in his ear and twisted his mind and his body over hundreds of years until what he was ceased to be, he was then only what he became... a monster.

The people still defending lotro sound a lot like frodo... There is still good in him i know it... then lotro bites your finger off for the ring. Rather in this case it bite's your finger off to steal your wallet.

Yeah, lag is the deal breaker for me too. I just can't play pvp with that going on and just log on to see if it is fixed. It takes about 10 seconds of moving around grams to see it isn't fixed. I'm sorry WB/Turbine, but people aren't going to pvp with huge lag spikes. It just isn't fun to hit a skill and have your opponent appear 20' away when it activates.

Lag has been much better recently and I've been in some good rvr fights with no lag. There are a few spikes still but yeah.

Again, make sure that you are not displaying buff icons for your entire raid. I forgot to check show only dispellable buffs/show only effects cast by me in the social options a few weeks ago and it made the difference between slide show/unplayable to slow at times yet playable. I switch my settings around a lot and these two made a tremendous difference in my performance. There are some times we get lag but, mostly I can play and have fun out there and my PC is going on 3 years old. I hate to see people leave over performance issues.

Originally Posted by Jeffor

Again, make sure that you are not displaying buff icons for your entire raid. I forgot to check show only dispellable buffs/show only effects cast by me in the social options a few weeks ago and it made the difference between slide show/unplayable to slow at times yet playable.

With all due respect.

There are some of us (especially the PvP enthusiasts) who have ridiculously powerful computers, including 12Gigs of RAM, Windows 7 64 Bit, 3.0ghz - 4.0ghz (perhaps overclocked) CPUs, top of the line Graphics from EVGA or nVidia. Heck, even my NIC (Network Interface Card - i.e. Ethernet / RJ45) was over $150.

I have everything cranked out there, and unless I'm FRAPSing, I have remarkably good frames.

The kind of lag that people are talking about, and the kind of lag that people are leaving the game over, is the intermittent hitching / lag spikes / invisible walls / treadmilling / skills locked in queue for 3 seconds -- which is enough time for your skill-chain skills (crit response, or other responsive skills, such as Rallying Cry) to lose their window of opportunity, and become greyed-out.

This is the lag that we hate so much.

Turbine says it's not with their servers -- and I believe them. I've played on a lot of servers, including the deported European servers, and they all experience the same issue.

My theory is that there is a form of networking hardware (such as a switch, FireBox, or something else in the rackmount) that is causing this intermittent spike of packet loss.

Because I know it's not my ISP, or any of my hardware, or anything on my end. I know this because I've been able to play other games and MMOs without having this intermittent connection-stall. IF, indeed, the problem WAS on my end, I would be experiencing this same type of network noise in other applications. But I just simply do not.


I can either 1) live with, or 2) fix a low-FPS issue. I can't fix this though.

And why the hell did I bother to post this over coffee and a sandwich? Coffees cold now.

Originally Posted by Meregash

With all due respect.

There are some of us (especially the PvP enthusiasts) who have ridiculously powerful computers, including 12Gigs of RAM, Windows 7 64 Bit, 3.0ghz - 4.0ghz (perhaps overclocked) CPUs, top of the line Graphics from EVGA or nVidia. Heck, even my NIC (Network Interface Card - i.e. Ethernet / RJ45) was over $150.

I have everything cranked out there, and unless I'm FRAPSing, I have remarkably good frames.

The kind of lag that people are talking about, and the kind of lag that people are leaving the game over, is the intermittent hitching / lag spikes / invisible walls / treadmilling / skills locked in queue for 3 seconds -- which is enough time for your skill-chain skills (crit response, or other responsive skills, such as Rallying Cry) to lose their window of opportunity, and become greyed-out.

This is the lag that we hate so much.

Turbine says it's not with their servers -- and I believe them. I've played on a lot of servers, including the deported European servers, and they all experience the same issue.

My theory is that there is a form of networking hardware (such as a switch, FireBox, or something else in the rackmount) that is causing this intermittent spike of packet loss.

Because I know it's not my ISP, or any of my hardware, or anything on my end. I know this because I've been able to play other games and MMOs without having this intermittent connection-stall. IF, indeed, the problem WAS on my end, I would be experiencing this same type of network noise in other applications. But I just simply do not.


I can either 1) live with, or 2) fix a low-FPS issue. I can't fix this though.

And why the hell did I bother to post this over coffee and a sandwich? Coffees cold now.

I was just mentioning something that happened to me in hopes that it might help someone else. That's all.

Originally Posted by Jeffor

I was just mentioning something that happened to me in hopes that it might help someone else. That's all.

And you saved my entire PvMP experience. I don't know why, but just within the last few months, maybe a year, the lag from the buffs has gotten insane. I used to play with all the buffs showing, and all that jazz on this same system and played fine, but recently it had gotten to the point where I was watching RvR fighting on my screen that had been over with for a good 4-5 minutes even with all of my graphics set to Very Low and I had to stop raiding in the Moors. I turned all those off(I didn't know I could until I read your post) and it ran smooth as butter. I run around and can stay on top of every target with absolutely no issue, with the exception of the server lag, with the graphics on Medium/High. So, for that, I thank you.

Yeah the buffs will definitely cause lag. The check refreshes every second (roughly, judging by the frequency of the flickering that sometimes happens), and it has to poll every player in your raid.

Another thing that has helped in the past (back when I played on my laptop) is to go to Options-Troubleshoot and reduce the engine speed.

Sadly this is the main reason I left the game, and my guess is that it has something to do with the Colo the servers are in as Mere's post alluded to. When you play a class that's pure melee, the lag his you hard. Sadly I've not found a game that gives me the same enjoyment that Lotro's PvMP did.