Dont forget that Minis do not need any other class to heal them. So 2 minis and 2 captains is indeed healing stacked.
I know from experience. Carli, Becky, and me used to run 3 man out there and no one ever killed us, ever. It gets boring. Anyone who has fun in a heal stacked group must REALLY suck outside of the group and are just trying to get the free reknown. I cant fathom how anyone could enjoy such a boring experience as being inside a heal stacked group fighting small group creeps.
I have never seen a group so scared of dying as the current crop of players. The group that keeps switching sides in the middle of battle like that Trival dude and his friends makes it even worse. Pick a side and stick with it. Stop being a little female dog that runs from alpha male to alpha male. Why not accept the challenge and push back when your sides starts to lose instead of running to the other side? This is far worse and does way more damage than any heal stacked group ever could.
WE NOTICE AND WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
Did I mention you look tragically pathetic when you do it?
Dont forget that Minis do not need any other class to heal them. So 2 minis and 2 captains is indeed healing stacked.
I know from experience. Carli, Becky, and me used to run 3 man out there and no one ever killed us, ever. It gets boring. Anyone who has fun in a heal stacked group must REALLY suck outside of the group and are just trying to get the free reknown. I cant fathom how anyone could enjoy such a boring experience as being inside a heal stacked group fighting small group creeps.
I have never seen a group so scared of dying as the current crop of players. The group that keeps switching sides in the middle of battle like that Trival dude and his friends makes it even worse. Pick a side and stick with it. Stop being a little female dog that runs from alpha male to alpha male. Why not accept the challenge and push back when your sides starts to lose instead of running to the other side? This is far worse and does way more damage than any heal stacked group ever could.
WE NOTICE AND WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
Did I mention you look tragically pathetic when you do it?
Do you realize when you make posts like this and you are wrong that you look even more like a fool? We don't flip to the side that is farming or zerging the other. We flip to the side that is getting destroyed and obviously needs more people. And our main and usually only form of healers is 2 captains. And fighting small group creeps? I don't think so. When you are outnumbered 2-3+:1 every fight with usually a tyrant or a few chieftains on you.
Do you realize when you make posts like this and you are wrong that you look even more like a fool? We don't flip to the side that is farming or zerging the other. We flip to the side that is getting destroyed and obviously needs more people.
This would only be a legitimate claim if you used selective intel.
eg.
Person 1: "Oh hey guys, the other side is being farmed and destroyed, we should help them"
Person 2: "but we are the ones currently being res-camped"
Person 1: "don't you remember when we were farming them in their keep?"
Person 2: "that was an hour ago, things have changed"
Person 1: "no they havent, let's switch sides guys"
This would only be a legitimate claim if you used selective intel.
eg.
Person 1: "Oh hey guys, the other side is being farmed and destroyed, we should help them"
Person 2: "but we are the ones currently being res-camped"
Person 1: "don't you remember when we were farming them in their keep?"
Person 2: "that was an hour ago, things have changed"
Person 1: "no they havent, let's switch sides guys"
/Aza
Sounds like you with your warden when he was level 45 ambushing zerging with Adino? You know, flipping to side that is zerg farming the creeps? Everytime we flipped was when the side we were on was zerg farming. But I guess you get points for trying?
P.s. - Work on your counting skills
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Do you realize when you make posts like this and you are wrong that you look even more like a fool? We don't flip to the side that is farming or zerging the other. We flip to the side that is getting destroyed and obviously needs more people. And our main and usually only form of healers is 2 captains. And fighting small group creeps? I don't think so. When you are outnumbered 2-3+:1 every fight with usually a tyrant or a few chieftains on you.
We notice that you look tragically pathetic.
I dunno Altogo had a point. I used to see it all the time with some of CoM's former members, and everyone I knew and talked to knew y'all did it. Whichever side was "winning", you could bet your behind some of CoM's members would suddenly disappear from the moors and appear creepside.
Not to say they all did. But we all know the ones who did.
I dunno Altogo had a point. I used to see it all the time with some of CoM's former members, and everyone I knew and talked to knew y'all did it. Whichever side was "winning", you could bet your behind some of CoM's members would suddenly disappear from the moors and appear creepside.
Not to say they all did. But we all know the ones who did.
If we were on our freeps getting zerged we would group up. How do you think our small group started? And we can handle ourselfs just fine on creepside. You can ask Proton, Fboom, Boom and Bigears about the 4v4's we did today. Or Goldenone about the multiple 5-7v10-16 we did against them. Backing off when rest of the creeps showed up and letting them get rolled. Are you still upset about that time at Tr rez where Al and I 2v5'd you and won?
Originally Posted by astalyn
Are you kidding me? You're calling Aza someone who flips to the winning side to farm? You're joking. Please, tell me you're joking.
Now you look like a fool. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Talking about back in august-september when he left the creep raid he was leading and joined adino on his underleveled warden ambushing with him. Sure many remember it.
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If we were on our freeps getting zerged we would group up. How do you think our small group started? And we can handle ourselfs just fine on creepside. You can ask Proton, Fboom, Boom and Bigears about the 4v4's we did today.
Those fights were awesome today best I've had in a long while.No npcs,no dive bombing into TA for a kill.Just good old fashioned open-field it was great.Sucks all the other creeps jumped in at the end but all the same.Great fights.Look forward to many more.
Sounds like you with your warden when he was level 45 ambushing zerging with Adino? You know, flipping to side that is zerg farming the creeps? Everytime we flipped was when the side we were on was zerg farming. But I guess you get points for trying?
P.s. - Work on your counting skills
Ah, you mean when I decided to go to the Moors when underlevelled in order to lead a group of freeps so that they would not feel compelled to join Adinos large raid? You mean when I weakened his attempt at forming a full raid by splitting the freeps up in order to provide more balanced fights?
I remember we actually ended up having quite a few nice fights due to it.
But maybe you were right, maybe I was just trying to easy mode by rushing in as a level 45 into groups of creeps by encouraging my group mates to fight odds that were not always in our favour. I mean afterall, easy-moders all like to join a fight for which they are underlevelled and don't stand a chance. /sarcasm
On the other hand, we have your clique who miraculously disappears from freepside once creeps have pushed freeps back and are farming them in their own keep. 3-4 minutes later, your clique appears to have joined creepside to form a wargpack which is now gladly farming res in addition to the already overwhelming creep numbers. Quite the champion of justice you are there, always willing to bandwagon onto the winning side in order to help slay the evil players who are willing to brave a challenge.
You know, you have every right to bandwagon. You like every other player has the right to play the way they want. Denying it on here however is fruitless as most players already know.
lol. I should have taken a screen shot when you guys logged out as a whole raid, behind the rock west of TR right after the freeps took TR last night, then you guys logged freep and rolled the rest of the moors blue with them.
I hear ya dude. That must have been some other dudes that used to be in CoM doing it right? I know, someone hacked your account and forced you to switch to freep while a big raid was out rolling the Moors blue right? Jesus man, just own up to what you did, be a true Misfit and be proud of it. You have to be smart enough at this point to understand that people in a game like this keep track of who is who and what they are doing. To deny it at this point is embarrassingly awkward for you and leaves pie on ya face.
That is a big problem when restructuring your kins; you let some in, you let some out and you never know whose alt ya got in there or not. Might want to watch what you put in your kin chat from now on.
On the other hand, we have your clique who miraculously disappears from freepside once creeps have pushed freeps back and are farming them in their own keep. 3-4 minutes later, your clique appears to have joined creepside to form a wargpack which is now gladly farming res in addition to the already overwhelming creep numbers. Quite the champion of justice you are there, always willing to bandwagon onto the winning side in order to help slay the evil players who are willing to brave a challenge.
You know, you have every right to bandwagon. You like every other player has the right to play the way they want. Denying it on here however is fruitless as most players already know.
/Aza
Form a wargpack? No. Push us in our own keep? No. Can barely handle us with chieftains and a tyrant on us. On creepside we run with a balanced group almost everytime except we lack a defiler since he quit the game for the time being. Farm the rez with a wargpack? I am flattered you consider Al and myself a wargpack 2-3 weeks ago when we jumped you by the bird.
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If we were on our freeps getting zerged we would group up. How do you think our small group started? And we can handle ourselfs just fine on creepside. You can ask Proton, Fboom, Boom and Bigears about the 4v4's we did today. Or Goldenone about the multiple 5-7v10-16 we did against them. Backing off when rest of the creeps showed up and letting them get rolled. Are you still upset about that time at Tr rez where Al and I 2v5'd you and won?
Talking about back in august-september when he left the creep raid he was leading and joined adino on his underleveled warden ambushing with him. Sure many remember it.
It was only 2v5 once. The rest of it was the two of you farming soloers. And I find it hilarious that both of you had to burrow/hips whenever you got low. I always took the death I knew was coming, but the two of you were more concerned with getting easy kills than having some good pvp. Not once did I try to sprint away from you, which is more than I can say for both of you. I have no problem with rez camping, but if you need more than yourself, then I laugh at your ability.
Ha
As a footnote, I've never claimed to be a good player and you'll never hear me say it. But at least I stand and fight. Show some balls and I'll think higher of you
lol. I should have taken a screen shot when you guys logged out as a whole raid, behind the rock west of TR right after the freeps took TR last night, then you guys logged freep and rolled the rest of the moors blue with them.
I hear ya dude. That must have been some other dudes that used to be in CoM doing it right? I know, someone hacked your account and forced you to switch to freep while a big raid was out rolling the Moors blue right? Jesus man, just own up to what you did, be a true Misfit and be proud of it. You have to be smart enough at this point to understand that people in a game like this keep track of who is who and what they are doing. To deny it at this point is embarrassingly awkward for you and leaves pie on ya face.
That is a big problem when restructuring your kins; you let some in, you let some out and you never know whose alt ya got in there or not. Might want to watch what you put in your kin chat from now on.
You mean after we flipped lugz and went to Tr as we saw Proton and bigears there being zergfarmed by10+ creeps( We had 8 in our group) with the ON buff? So I went to the rock where I almost always burrow when camping the rez? Then we logged our freep. And there was 2 other freeps following us who kept asking for a invite and we kept telling them now. Nadrine and wintershade? Sorry I didn't farm the freeps and Tr with you??
It was only 2v5 once. The rest of it was the two of you farming soloers. And I find it hilarious that both of you had to burrow/hips whenever you got low. I always took the death I knew was coming, but the two of you were more concerned with getting easy kills than having some good pvp. Not once did I try to sprint away from you, which is more than I can say for both of you. I have no problem with rez camping, but if you need more than yourself, then I laugh at your ability.
Ha
As a footnote, I've never claimed to be a good player and you'll never hear me say it. But at least I stand and fight. Show some balls and I'll think higher of you
Farming soloers? No. Rarely was it us 2v1. Did a few 2v2 against Proton and karine. One of them Xey jumped in too. Can remember those off the top of my head because they were the ones that stood out. And sorry he hips'd to regen and I burrowed to regen when we were doing 2v3+ with yous retreating and coming back?
Okay, then why did you log out as a whole raid right after freeps took TR and then not five minutes later you guys took Lugz? Then farmed us inside TA with your heal stacked group? You remind me of Cartman with your mental gymnastics on this issue here. Its like you BELIEVE you didnt do what everyone clearly saw you and your crew do.
I am curious as well. You keep accusing me of stuff. Tell me who my creep is.
Okay, then why did you log out as a whole raid right after freeps took TR and then not five minutes later you guys took Lugz? Then farmed us inside TA with your heal stacked group? You remind me of Cartman with your mental gymnastics on this issue here. Its like you BELIEVE you didnt do what everyone clearly saw you and your crew do.
I am curious as well. You keep accusing me of stuff. Tell me who my creep is.
Um.. TR and Lugz were blue for a while(courtesy of JustinD). We took Lugz on our CREEPS. Then we went to TA/Stab/Ec. Saw nothing then moved to Tr. There we saw freeps getting zerged with ON up. Creeps started clearing Tr. We then logged to the side that was LOSING. It was just us in TA, no goldtaggers( Nadrine and Wintershade(?)) at that point. Then when we killed the tyrant with yous on us so we moved to Lugz. Why would you fight us open field if we killed a tyrant with yous on us? Which - We did not take. Lugz stayed red. So.. I am little confused on what you think happened last night.
And no where did I accuse you of doing anything, but you said I keep accusing you of stuff.
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Clearly English is a second language for you, so I am having trouble understanding what you mean. When you say yous, do you mean me? You have no idea who my creep is, for all you know, I could have been following you around on a freep.
Do you normally blindly accuse people of things while flip flopping?
There's legitimacy to both sides of the argument in this thread. It's surely laughable that creeps are complaining about a minimal amount of healers in a group "heal stacking" or whatever. I was grouped with what are most likely the 2 mentioned captains here, and as a 6 man group we were effortlessly annihilating a creep force of more than twice our numbers. I can only imagine the hilarious comments being made by the creeps as they pitifully failed to take down our group time and again. Maybe rather than complain, they should have used some sort of strategy or brain-work to take down the group.
On the other hand, I have seen said group, but not participated in (leaving me without both sides of the story) flip the keeps blue on their freeps, then flip creep to make the map red again. It brings reminiscence of the days when Adino and Aza raided the moors, only it's being done with 6 man groups, rather than 24 man groups. It seems they think of themselves as the elite moors group who can do whatever they want to PvP because they have talent. And this mentality has visibly led to a lower quality play style among all of them (ganking 1v1s, calling in help for fair fights, zerging solos on occasion, etc); and they probably aren't even conscious of this fact.
On the other hand, I have seen said group, but not participated in (leaving me without both sides of the story) flip the keeps blue on their freeps, then flip creep to make the map red again. It brings reminiscence of the days when Adino and Aza raided the moors, only it's being done with 6 man groups, rather than 24 man groups. It seems they think of themselves as the elite moors group who can do whatever they want to PvP because they have talent. And this mentality has visibly led to a lower quality play style among all of them (ganking 1v1s, calling in help for fair fights, zerging solos on occasion, etc); and they probably aren't even conscious of this fact.
That is the very thing I am complaining about here Meleo and the fact they deny it. They need to just man up and admit what they are doing.
Clearly English is a second language for you, so I am having trouble understanding what you mean. When you say yous, do you mean me? You have no idea who my creep is, for all you know, I could have been following you around on a freep.
Do you normally blindly accuse people of things while flip flopping?
There's legitimacy to both sides of the argument in this thread. It's surely laughable that creeps are complaining about a minimal amount of healers in a group "heal stacking" or whatever. I was grouped with what are most likely the 2 mentioned captains here, and as a 6 man group we were effortlessly annihilating a creep force of more than twice our numbers. I can only imagine the hilarious comments being made by the creeps as they pitifully failed to take down our group time and again. Maybe rather than complain, they should have used some sort of strategy or brain-work to take down the group.
On the other hand, I have seen said group, but not participated in (leaving me without both sides of the story) flip the keeps blue on their freeps, then flip creep to make the map red again. It brings reminiscence of the days when Adino and Aza raided the moors, only it's being done with 6 man groups, rather than 24 man groups. It seems they think of themselves as the elite moors group who can do whatever they want to PvP because they have talent. And this mentality has visibly led to a lower quality play style among all of them (ganking 1v1s, calling in help for fair fights, zerging solos on occasion, etc); and they probably aren't even conscious of this fact.
You were part of it with just 2 captains. You saw what we fought and what it looked like. With the tyrant on us( Being captain tanked and healed) with 10+ creeps in the keep only 2 tried to fight us. If they were to group up and learn how to focus fire and properly CC we would get rolled - like you said. And sorry I killed you after your "1v1"( Don't recall you 2 jumping for it and when I saw his morale start going down I made my way over to him) with lbf? If a creep/freep is gonna pile onto us when we are fighting other things, why should we not kill it when it runs into us by itself?
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You were part of it with just 2 captains. You saw what we fought and what it looked like. With the tyrant on us( Being captain tanked and healed) with 10+ creeps in the keep only 2 tried to fight us. If they were to group up and learn how to focus fire and properly CC we would get rolled - like you said. And sorry I killed you after your "1v1"( Don't recall you 2 jumping for it and when I saw his morale start going down I made my way over to him) with lbf? If a creep/freep is gonna pile onto us when we are fighting other things, why should we not kill it when it runs into us by itself?
I wasn't so much piling onto you, as he started the fight. It's not a big deal, I don't really care about the death; just looked bad.
If I wanted the easy infamy I would of piled onto to him or almost anybody else who camps the rez when they have 2-3 people on them instead of just walking by.
Originally Posted by spetey
I wasn't so much piling onto you, as he started the fight. It's not a big deal, I don't really care about the death; just looked bad.
Lbf was the fat kid, went to help my group member. As to be expected. If it was a 1v1 where both jumped for it I wouldn't of done anything. And if I were to jump Akara or to jump you when grouped I would expect the other to come help.
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Dont forget that Minis do not need any other class to heal them. So 2 minis and 2 captains is indeed healing stacked.
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